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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Do any of you have experience with short scale basses? I have been having wrist problems and want to switch but I generally tune to D standard (occasionally lower). Could I set one up to work with heavy strings?

I've found true short scale 30" to be solid down to D standard with reasonably available strings. You could go lower with heavier strings (would probably requiring buying a five-string set), but personally for fast and heavy music I don't dig the tone or feel of a string that fat.

At 32" scale you're good to go for most anything. I'm running a 32" scale Zon right now in Drop C (CGCF) with 50-115's and it works well.
 
So, I managed to rack both the Peavey 120/120 and my GK 700rb in a 5U solid walnut rack I made. Had to make a "blow hole" on top for the GK's air inlet. Used a 4" hole saw and a 1/4" roundover bit, and a bit of stain.

The peavey has about 1/4" on top for the small vent on top, but I'm also going to be replacing it's fan with a unit that provides twice the CFM as the stocker, so heat shouldn't be an issue.

The whole rack weighs an ungodly amount. It's awesome.

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I've found true short scale 30" to be solid down to D standard with reasonably available strings. You could go lower with heavier strings (would probably requiring buying a five-string set), but personally for fast and heavy music I don't dig the tone or feel of a string that fat.

At 32" scale you're good to go for most anything. I'm running a 32" scale Zon right now in Drop C (CGCF) with 50-115's and it works well.

What set is that 50-115? Is it a true medium scale set or you using a full scale set? I know some mediums allow full scale sets based on location of the bridge and string through capabilities.

Reason I ask is it's incredibly difficult to get standard scale strings on a 30" let alone a 5 string set. Two reasons, one tuners on shorties tend to be smaller and would not take a .120+ string, and also that's like 5"+ excess string so your taper is shot. One guy I read cut his strings from the ball end and soldered balls back on which sounds like a poor long term solution and if your cut or soldering is bad you will unwrap your strings and waste money.

I've been dying to have a BEAD tuned short scale for like the last 3 years, and searched countless threads. So if you have the answer clue me in.
 
What set is that 50-115? Is it a true medium scale set or you using a full scale set? I know some mediums allow full scale sets based on location of the bridge and string through capabilities.

Reason I ask is it's incredibly difficult to get standard scale strings on a 30" let alone a 5 string set. Two reasons, one tuners on shorties tend to be smaller and would not take a .120+ string, and also that's like 5"+ excess string so your taper is shot. One guy I read cut his strings from the ball end and soldered balls back on which sounds like a poor long term solution and if your cut or soldering is bad you will unwrap your strings and waste money.

I've been dying to have a BEAD tuned short scale for like the last 3 years, and searched countless threads. So if you have the answer clue me in.

Yeah, sorry, I've had all of those exact same problems. My new 32" Zon is headless and accepts long-scale strings, so I've been using standard-length sets of 55-115 or 50-115 (first the Zon strings that came on it, and now GHS Bass Boomers). With my lefty-converted Gibson Flying V bass (30"-ish scale), which I'm probably going to sell soon, I had trouble finding larger strings. Luckily the groove on the lowest string's tuning peg was just large enough that I could cram in a decently sized long-scale string with a little elbow grease, and after a couple turns it stayed in place, so I got by like that.
 
Nice work. What cabs are you running with that?

I hope you're using the power section from the GK along with the Peavey

Thanks man! Running a Genz Benz 410XB (Xtended Bass, low tuning) loaded with Eminence Legends with the GK and a Fender/Sunn 215 loaded with Eminence Legends with the Peavey.

Edit: A poopy picture, but a pic nonetheless. Before the re-racking obv. I also painted the white on the GB cab flat black.
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Satyrnine, that shell is badass.

Thanks man!

Are you using the GK preamp for both? How does that sound? I've always wondered what they would sound like with a tube power section

Yep, using the DI out to the Line In on the Peavey. Playing with using a Presonus Tube Pre between them for some extra push. In short, it sounds shaging great. The 410 handles the low low end cleanly with the 350watt solid state power amp of the GK, and the 215 gives all that tubey goodness, and has plenty of mids/highs and sounds really grindy and just delicious. The resonance and presence controls on the Peavey are great! Moves a lot of air, but just doesn't go as low as the Genz Benz. I run the GK dirtyish, with a Aphex Big Bottom Bass Exciter in front of it. (as well as a Black Finger tube Compressor, Green Russian Muff, and MXR 10 band EQ) I loved the GK before, but now it's PERFECT!

Satyrnine if you share your amp make sure some dummy doesn't think you installed a sweet beer holder.

That's a very good point. I typically don't share, but maybe installing a fan grill of some sort on top would be smart. I typically don't let anyone set anything on the walnut anyway, let alone drinks. :)
 
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