Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[The_Janitor]

I don't get the High on Fire thing, probably get shot in the face for it on here but double bass drumming and palm muting seems so 80's to me.

I think Matt figured he'd done the doom thing with Sleep and wanted to get back to his thrash roots. I don't listen to a whole lot of fast metal these days, but I'll always have time for High on Fire. The sheer talent/musicianship on display from those three dudes is shaging mind-blowing. All three of them monster players.

 

[The_Janitor]

Speaking of tunes...does anyone dig Earth as much as I do? I realize this is old news.

I like their earlier work (which Sunn0))) ripped off so effectively) but damn...Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull and the first volume of Angels of Darkness are among my favorite albums released in the past 15 years.

Yeah, I'm a huge fan of their stuff. Hex..., Hibernaculum, The Bees Made Honey..., Angels... are all incredible albums.

 

[Turkeypills]

So still on the hunt for an additional K140 after an eBay headache I had to deal with, which I would love your guys' opinion on but thats another post. On local CL there is a beat to **** 200s cab for sale for 300. It has a dented up dust cap, no grille and I am sure, more than enough tolex rips. Enter the Sunn gods in my favor. Someone on the Sunn owners group on FB posted his 200s for sale and also mentioned that he would sell his minty looking 200s cab, for $300. I immediately posted my 215B up for sale within the group and a local, Marcus from Fister wants to buy it. I will basically be trading my mixed driver 215B for a very good condition 200s cab if everything works out. Should scratch my itch for a JBL loaded Sunn cab for my 2000s with almost no investment and will leave me with a K140 to keep or sell. While it will not cure my OCD for a 30in wide cab to match the size of the head, I will just flip the cab on its side and have a practice rig of doom.

 

[Muddslide]

I don't get the High on Fire thing, probably get shot in the face for it on here but double bass drumming and palm muting seems so 80's to me. I think I just like heavy to be slow I guess.

I get this completely and feel this way about a lot of heavy bands/music. At the same time, I grew up very immersed in hardcore punk in the early 80s as well as thrashier metal, so while some of the overall sounds and techniques may legitimately be considered "so 80s" I think HoF is far from retro and maybe in a way it feels to me more like an extension of the stuff I grew up on.

That said, there aren't many heavy bands I'm into that are focused much on speed. I do like the sludge.

Yeah, I'm a huge fan of their stuff. Hex..., Hibernaculum, The Bees Made Honey..., Angels... are all incredible albums.

Cool. Their newest from late last year, Primitive and Deadly, is as good as anything they've done IMO. There are just a couple of tracks with vocals (Mark Lanegan) I don't really care for. But I'm glad they do what they want and stretch out/change things up now and then.

 

[Speedor]

I never liked High on Fire until recently. I mostly dig their first album, though. The rest is just too thrashy. The new one seems to be pretty good, though.

LOVE Earth. Everything.

 

[ampegfuzz]

As recently as a few weeks ago I was planning on revamping my home rig. I love the tiny bass rig I have there, GK MB800 into the little Eminence loaded DIY 110. My guitar rig is a 100W tube head into a 2x12 though, but it has power scaling so I usually set it down to 25 or 50W. I was going to pretty much sell all my guitar stuff, build a new cab and have Nick make me a little 18W clean tube head for demo recording. Unfortunately a lot of gear sells just kept falling through and then even more bills popped up, so that's off the table now. The rig I use still works fine though, it's just a little too loud to play any time but during the day. Which usually means right after work or weekends, but those are the times I'm never free usually.

Been thinking of replacing the speaker in the gt-10 with something better so I can push it a bit more. My 412 is still semi dead with a blown speaker and another mismatched. I scored a avatar 212 but that went straight to the studio. I do usually fight for good guitar tone. The Marshall 412 I was borrowing with was doing the trick for a while. The clean Channel on the legacy smokes so it takes pedals super well and has the half power switch. Right when I thought it sounded the best I had to start lending gear out for the greater good .

 

[Squanch72]

I get this completely and feel this way about a lot of heavy bands/music. At the same time, I grew up very immersed in hardcore punk in the early 80s as well as thrashier metal, so while some of the overall sounds and techniques may legitimately be considered "so 80s" I think HoF is far from retro and maybe in a way it feels to me more like an extension of the stuff I grew up on.

That said, there aren't many heavy bands I'm into that are focused much on speed. I do like the sludge.



Cool. Their newest from late last year, Primitive and Deadly, is as good as anything they've done IMO. There are just a couple of tracks with vocals (Mark Lanegan) I don't really care for. But I'm glad they do what they want and stretch out/change things up now and then.

Yeah I don't listen to any of the speed or punk stuff anymore but grew up on it in the 80's so it just always feels 80's to me when I hear that double drumming and palm mutes, but of course Metal has lived on past that like you say, I agree they are talented. It's funny this genre has really narrowed down what I can stomach anymore. I find I can't listen to so much stuff I dug before stumbling on it.

 

[mc_muench]

So still on the hunt for an additional K140 after an eBay headache I had to deal with, which I would love your guys' opinion on but thats another post. On local CL there is a beat to **** 200s cab for sale for 300. It has a dented up dust cap, no grille and I am sure, more than enough tolex rips. Enter the Sunn gods in my favor. Someone on the Sunn owners group on FB posted his 200s for sale and also mentioned that he would sell his minty looking 200s cab, for $300. I immediately posted my 215B up for sale within the group and a local, Marcus from Fister wants to buy it. I will basically be trading my mixed driver 215B for a very good condition 200s cab if everything works out. Should scratch my itch for a JBL loaded Sunn cab for my 2000s with almost no investment and will leave me with a K140 to keep or sell. While it will not cure my OCD for a 30in wide cab to match the size of the head, I will just flip the cab on its side and have a practice rig of doom.

You have a 810 too dont you? Lay both cabs on their side, and you got a pyramid full stack fo doom.

 

[mc_muench]

Per @Corey Y ... bad ear tone days for sure hinder my writing/playing. When the tone I hear is uninispiring, Im am left uninspired.

 

[Corey Y]

I don't get the High on Fire thing, probably get shot in the face for it on here but double bass drumming and palm muting seems so 80's to me. I think I just like heavy to be slow I guess.

I love High On Fire. The new stuff is a totally different direction than the early albums, which I also was very into, but I dig it. They lost me for a couple in the middle, but I started to get back into it on Death Is This Communion and the last album was amazing to me. I'm not going to shoot you in the face though Joe. I don't own a gun and I don't have the time to drive out there, so I'm going to have to mail you a coupon for a free hammer from Harbor Freight and just have you hit yourself in the face with it for me.

 

[The_Janitor]

The only HOF album I didn't really dig was Snakes for the Divine. I haven't listened to De Vermis... as much as the others but it's killer. The new one is HOLY SH*T good. Seriously impressed.

 

[Corey Y]

The only HOF album I didn't really dig was Snakes for the Divine. I haven't listened to De Vermis... as much as the others but it's killer. The new one is HOLY SH*T good. Seriously impressed.

Blessed Black Wings was a mixed bag, I didn't listen to it much after the first few spins. Snakes For The Divine left me pretty cold, it just felt kind of sterile and didn't grab me. Looking back now I view those albums as growing pains to get to their current sound, which is pretty cool.

 

[Muddslide]

This is still one of my favorite videos of all time. It's hilarious and badass all at once.

 

[The_Janitor]

Blessed Black Wings was a mixed bag, I didn't listen to it much after the first few spins. Snakes For The Divine left me pretty cold, it just felt kind of sterile and didn't grab me. Looking back now I view those albums as growing pains to get to their current sound, which is pretty cool.

I dig BBW for Joe Preston and Brother in the Wind. But yeah, not their best.

 

[Burnsy]

I love High On Fire. I had been wandering directionless in lands of classic rock, punk, goth, synthpop, hip-hop... it was a pleasant trip and I value the time I spent in those lands. But High On Fire was critical in bringing me back to the place where my musical soul was born... HEAVY FVCKING METAL. I streamed much of the new album via NPR today over lunch. Not disappointed. I like how all of their albums sound different, honestly. I could pick nits on each, but overall I just find them to be different flavors of awesome. Palm muting and double-kick drums can certainly get tedious in the hands of bands who don't know what else to do. I'm thinking death metal and euro-power metal bands from after the mid-90's here. But I certainly appreciate a band who know how to conjure an atmosphere and establish a groove before whipping out the gatling guns.

 

[Muddslide]

Blessed Black Wings was a mixed bag, I didn't listen to it much after the first few spins.

See, that was the first album I heard by 'em.

 

[Squanch72]

I got a live High on Fire CD maybe one of you all would like to have. I can send it to one of you fan boys with a matching Member's Only jacket. Joking, joking. But for real if someone wants the CD they are welcome to it. Remind me never to get 'Hammered ' with you Corey.

 

[Corey Y]

See, that was the first album I heard by 'em.

Someone played The Art Of Self Defense on vinyl for me right when it came out. They knew I was a fan of Sleep, so it was pitched to me as "Duuuuude, have you heard the guitarist's new band?". The rise of Sleep to be a hugely recognized band kind of shocked me. They were actually semi local to my area, though I never got to see them live, I did collect some bootlegs from shows at Gilman and the like back in the late 90's. I even bought some Operator Generator albums back then, because there was a Sleep connection.

 

[The_Janitor]

Someone played The Art Of Self Defense on vinyl for me right when it came out. They knew I was a fan of Sleep, so it was pitched to me as "Duuuuude, have you heard the guitarist's new band?". The rise of Sleep to be a hugely recognized band kind of shocked me. They were actually semi local to my area, though I never got to see them live, I did collect some bootlegs from shows at Gilman and the like back in the late 90's. I even bought some Operator Generator albums back then, because there was a Sleep connection.

Yeah, I got the Man's Ruin promo for Art of Self Defense a couple weeks before it was released. Read the note on the back cover and thought "Oh cool, new doom band from the Sleep guitarist" and didn't think much of it. Got done with work at 10:30 pm, picked up a friend that was also into doom and stoner rock, remembered the cd and popped it in to the car stereo. That first riff to Baghdad came on, louder and fuzzier than anything I'd heard before and we were both just stunned and confused. Our brains didn't immediately know how to process what we were hearing for a few seconds. Then the drums and bass kicked and it was immediately obvious how incredibly heavy, innovative and badass this album was going to be. The rest of the night is hazy, but I know that we drove around listening to the album, then went to a friend's house where we took over the stereo and forced everyone to listen at high volume. Other people were not as impressed but holy sh*t our minds were blown. I haven't been the same since.

Joe - if you haven't heard the first album you should check it out. It's the least thrash of any of their albums, total heavy groove.



(ignore the bonus tracks, album ends with Master of Fists)

 

[Muddslide]

Someone played The Art Of Self Defense on vinyl for me right when it came out. They knew I was a fan of Sleep, so it was pitched to me as "Duuuuude, have you heard the guitarist's new band?". The rise of Sleep to be a hugely recognized band kind of shocked me. They were actually semi local to my area, though I never got to see them live, I did collect some bootlegs from shows at Gilman and the like back in the late 90's. I even bought some Operator Generator albums back then, because there was a Sleep connection.

Oh man, I was all about Sleep--but I was so out of touch with what was shaking in music I didn't even realize Matt Pike was IN High On Fire until I was already pretty into them. I mean, I used to know every bit of trivia and minutiae about bands I was into but as work and family life eclipsed a lot of that, I wound up where lots of old lifers wind up--occasionally discovering or getting turned onto something new, occasionally liking it, but not having the time or energy to do much more than jam and enjoy it.

One of the things that does suck somewhat about having listened to so much goddammm music over the years is that so often when someone tries to hip me to something it sounds so boring and derivative. Like "I've already heard another band doing this 25 years ago, only it was far more original when they did it, and they did it better!"

So crotchety am I...