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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

I've known those guys for over 10 years and this doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I'd bet money that it was PeeWee (muleboy/Mike) and not Spanky. But really, neither would surprise me.

The story that really drove this point home was hearing about how during their heyday they had a Euro tour booked, drummer hadn't been working much and had no money. Showed up in Europe for the tour then tells everyone that he's broke and can't pay for anything. Not a huge deal, but still a poopy thing to spring on the rest of the group. His solution? Empty out his then-girlfriend's checking and savings accounts and blow the money on booze, party favors and who knows what else. Cue sad phone call from drummer's mom begging the then-GF to not press charges. Band left him somewhere in eastern europe and hired a fill-in to finish the tour, as dude had all kinds of international bank fraud issues to deal with.

Nice buncha guys.
Total douche bags if you ask me!
Come to town with a $2500 guarantee, kill a dude's vintage amp, and bail! I think I m dumping all their records.
 
so get this, last friday our guitarists other band opened for Bongzilla. He was letting them borrow an amp because the east coast dates were "fly in" shows. Anyway, during sound check the guitarist of Bongzilla took his Sunn Model T, cranked it nearly all the way up and blew it up. Then just looks at it and goes "oh... hmmm" and then just walks off, goes out to the van and chills.. Never said so much as "sorry" let alone an offer to fix it. DOUCHES!

Yuck.
 
The classic 20 heads interesting, but at $499? Classic 30 is like $250-$375 and can be turned down and still sound good or get very loud. But that 2x12 and the king mini look like they'd be fun.

Also been eyeing the carvin nomad, not much experience or ideas about it, but looks like s classic 30/ac30ish thing
 
I've been trying to decide on a small tube head for home recording for a while myself. What are you going to be doing with it? That will probably have a big impact on what you choose. I'd go with the 6505 with an OD/boost or something if want high gain metal tones, Valveking if you're staying more middle of the road rock tones and Classic if you're going bluesy or using a lot of pedals. Not sure how the cleans on the Valveking are for using with lots of pedals, but the 6505/5150 full head was always kind of finicky for me with fuzz or heavier dirt pedals and I never liked the clean channel much.

Bluesy stoner rock. Probably will end up with the Classic 20.

The classic 20 heads interesting, but at $499? Classic 30 is like $250-$375 and can be turned down and still sound good or get very loud. But that 2x12 and the king mini look like they'd be fun.

Also been eyeing the carvin nomad, not much experience or ideas about it, but looks like s classic 30/ac30ish thing

You think I pay retail for new peavey gear? :eyebrow:
 
The classic 20 heads interesting, but at $499? Classic 30 is like $250-$375 and can be turned down and still sound good or get very loud. But that 2x12 and the king mini look like they'd be fun.

Also been eyeing the carvin nomad, not much experience or ideas about it, but looks like s classic 30/ac30ish thing
MAP is $499, someone could get a much better deal if they wanted to...
 
I often get into spurts of different types of music. Right now I'm listening to a lot of Funk and Motown. I'm not new to either. Been a Motown fan for a long time. But I'm learning a lot. Learning about James Brown and Bootsy and the concept of the "One." and just getting deep into Jamerson lines, etc.

So, I'm a bit curious, as Doom/Stoner is where I find myself drawn to in band situations... For those that play Stoner/Doom, and have studied funk (or other genres), how has that affected your playing in Stoner/Doom? If you have some specific examples, I'd love to hear about them.

can't think of specific examples in my playing but funk and motown do influence the way i might approach a bassline. mostly note selection and timing as a opposed to rythm.
 
No Motown or Funk influence in my playing, but I've been thinking about learning some Motown tunes on bass. Seems like a good way for me to break out of my patterns and learn to play more interesting, melodic stuff. Whether it gets used in the band or not remains to be seen.

Also, on a related note - there's a Jackson 5 song with a killer bassline, don't remember the name of it, but I want to learn that sucker too...
 
So, perhaps good news... I posted on their Facebook page about the amp. 3 hours later they contacted the owner of it... so PERHAPS they are going to take care of it. I'm thinking that they may only be doing it because they borrow gear often and don't want that on Facebook, but hey, as long as his amp is made whole!
 
True dirtbag rock.

I think this is the genre I need to found.

Also, on a related note - there's a Jackson 5 song with a killer bassline, don't remember the name of it, but I want to learn that sucker too...

ABC?

  • Love mucho old Motown and funk stuff. Check out the bassline to "If You Want Me To Stay" by Sly & The Family Stone.

I don't get into a lot of the more slappy-poppy stuff, and I don't really play much stuff along those lines, but I dig it.

In recording project news, we've tried a lot of approaches to do seriously heavy guitar music, and my buddy and I now realize doing it long distance and without better equipment, it's just not good enough for our liking, so while we are still working on the garage rock stuff some, we switched gears to very obscene sounding material (not lyrically obscene, just filthy sounds) that for lack of a better term could be called synthpunk. He's got tons of electronic gadgetry and I'm playing (often heavily-effected) bass and guitar. Bueno results so far!

Next up we'll probably be doing 1920s jug band music, and we actually recorded and gigged a lot AS a jug band back in the 90s when we lived near each other...no plans to seriously undertake that again though. It's another style of music that works so much better when you can jam together in person.
 
went to gc on saturday before the beer rollout at masque attack(that was great, many, many, many naughty chica costumes), some dude was trying to sell us a woolly mammoth for more than my geiger counter cost, the upstairs br had no tp, the downstairs br had a fecal issue allover the seat and the toilet was clogged with hand towels, i told the manager and he just said to use another restroom (jerk off) so i had to use the ladies room, then i did find a nice natural/cherry les paul bass for 499 with thunderbird pickups, but i was not sure i wanted to buy it, because i mean seriously i would have to take it to wilkins to get repainted and i wasn't going to give such an usanitary place my money, and to the gc douche that reads my anti gc posts, please don't read this post and send me some buddy buddy email to my personal email account about some exclusive private promotion or inquiry about if i enjoyed my recent trip to gc, you guys are gross, you have poor leadership, you are disorganized, you are slow, and i'd rather just buy gear from the licensed mesa repair center in joshua tree anyway, cause they are a hell of a lot more with it and they need the cash to keep providing affordable music lessons to the community, sorry, i feel better now that i wrote that
 
Haha That festival was a charlie foxtrot through and through. I was struggling to find ANYONE. I even got separated from my girl for a while and had to search for her.

I did end up meeting @Burnsy though, which was great. It was a great show I thought. C&C were a little more sloppy than times I had seen them in the past but it was still good. Primus was a little quiet in my opinion, but they brought the heat as always. Tool... what more can I say... Dressed as Led Zeppelin and opening with No Quarter, extended version of Opiate and all the best tunes. My chips are on black saying that was the last Tool performance for a long time, maybe ever. Stoked I got to see it. Bummed that by the time I worked my my way through the entrance line, the ID line and the beer line; the merch booth had experienced utter devastation. I was hoping for a poster (signed would have been dope) but those apparently were gone within 45 minutes of open.


The show was excellent, but my experiences in AZ probably topped my show experience. To all the AZ folk here and @Muddslide, y'all are right. AZ ****ing rules. Fast highways, block layout across the city, endless hole in the wall mexican food places that are amazing. Sedona was on another level. Cathedral rock was one of the most cathartic climbs I have ever made. I want to live in villa on top of a mesa in Sedona and that's that.


@Jolagh The Mostly Harmless wouldn't fit in my carry on so you lucked out. THIS TIME. :)

Yeah dude, after I woke back up I somehow stumbled my way from the middle of the crowd to the back to finish tools show. I'm also glad I got to witness it. Would have loved to see them back in the early 2000s during their peak. Maynards screams were weak and we're for the most part non-existent but they still blew my mind.

Also big 10-4 on Arizona. It may become a focus in my life to move out there sometime. What an awesome place.
 
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I think this is the genre I need to found.



ABC?

  • Love mucho old Motown and funk stuff. Check out the bassline to "If You Want Me To Stay" by Sly & The Family Stone.

I don't get into a lot of the more slappy-poppy stuff, and I don't really play much stuff along those lines, but I dig it.

In recording project news, we've tried a lot of approaches to do seriously heavy guitar music, and my buddy and I now realize doing it long distance and without better equipment, it's just not good enough for our liking, so while we are still working on the garage rock stuff some, we switched gears to very obscene sounding material (not lyrically obscene, just filthy sounds) that for lack of a better term could be called synthpunk. He's got tons of electronic gadgetry and I'm playing (often heavily-effected) bass and guitar. Bueno results so far!

Next up we'll probably be doing 1920s jug band music, and we actually recorded and gigged a lot AS a jug band back in the 90s when we lived near each other...no plans to seriously undertake that again though. It's another style of music that works so much better when you can jam together in person.

It was "I Want You Back". Heard it at the grocery store the other day and it's been stuck in my head.
 

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