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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

NPD yesterday.
Totally worth the $40 bucks, so glad I snatched it off of ebay. @Pelham Bleu I can see why they are ending up for sale so cheap. They cut a lot of treble, it is a lot darker sounding than a Small Stone. Lots of sounds in this thing and it worked great on bass IMO.
Leaving the knob at 7am it just adds this kind of cool flavor to your sound, though it you are a Geddy Lee type you might not like the treble bleed. When I used it with the Behringer Super Fuzz and Boss ODB-3 I could really hear how much high end it cuts. With guitar I kept the pickup switch set to the bridge as it almost seemed too dark for guitar in other pickup positions. I could see why guitarists are dumping them.
Up to noon you just get a very subtle phase sound.
Noon to 3pm you get a decent swoosh going.
After 3pm you get into Vibe tones, good stuff.
Now the really fun part, on max you get stutter, tremolo effects. This sounded wicked with my MXR Slash Octave Fuzz, almost synthy.
With and without dirt pedals this is a great phaser for bass.
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Good score for $40.
 
White girl much? ;)

My spirit animal is a basic white girl

The fender tone stack will keep me from ever owning a meatsmoke. I want mids, and diming mids while cutting treble and bass to get them is weak sauce.

I've never got a definitive answer as to what the 2000s tonestack really is, but as far as I can tell it's based on the Fender stack, in sort of the same way a Marshall is. Of the few old Fender amps that I've played (Bassman, bandmaster), I think the main failing of the Fender tonestack for bass was that those amps simply didn't have enough power/low end to turn the bass down in order to "boost" the mids and still deliver a very usable sound.
 
So. Anyone been watching Making a Murderer?

I was familiar with the case, what with being from Wisconsin and all but had no idea what was really happening. I'm about 3/4 of the way through it, obviously i know how it ends.

Anyone else? Thoughts?

Me and the lady are watching it. And It hardly seems like an completely unbiased documentary. Yes, we all know our justice system is royally FUBAR'd but whether he actually did it or not, or whether the cops framed him or not, the guy seemed like a low life...who burns a cat? This psuedo-documentary isnt really going to do any good but distract the general, gullable public from things that really should matter. It has certainly brought out all the arm-chair investigators on my Facederp feed. Am I being harsh? I dont know, but sorry, not sorry, I dont care.
 
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There's a local band that i love, bassist has a meatsmoke, not sure if it's a 200 or 300W model. He's also got a large stack of emperor cabs. I just can't hear him. He blends with the guitar and for such a huge, expensive rig there's not a lot of low end. I have a feeling that the 2pro and SWR 610 could outpace it pretty easily.

Droids Attack right? 300 watt model...and Brad only runs low wattage heads like 2 30 watters I believe.
 
My guitarist played his V4 through the 408, and it was loud as balls. Wondering how much I need in tube watts, to run through a cab like that. It takes my power amp and asks for more. Of course class D versus tubes. Argue for what you want, but I think that tubes could do me well.
With a cab like that, id think 200watts would be alright if you arent looking for a super clean platform.
 
My spirit animal is a basic white girl



I've never got a definitive answer as to what the 2000s tonestack really is, but as far as I can tell it's based on the Fender stack, in sort of the same way a Marshall is. Of the few old Fender amps that I've played (Bassman, bandmaster), I think the main failing of the Fender tonestack for bass was that those amps simply didn't have enough power/low end to turn the bass down in order to "boost" the mids and still deliver a very usable sound.


That may be and that's a great hypothesis. My only other experience with a fender stack was a bassman and I did not care for it.
 
Waitwaitwaitwait...so some guy ordered a CUSTOM Meatsmoke, and asked for LESS output, and no mid control? I just...I don't...



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I get that, but to be fair, maybe every decision you made along your way was perfect and cool, but mine sure weren't and I'm glad my friends were there with constructive advise instead of just telling me I'm a dumbass. I didn't need their help telling me how stupid some of my decisions were along the way
 
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Me and the lady are watching it. And It hardly seems like an completely unbiased documentary. Yes, we all know our justice system is royally FUBAR'd but whether he actually did it or not, or whether the cops framed him or not, the guy seemed like a low life...who burns a cat? This psuedo-documentary isnt really going to do any good but distract the general, gullable public from things that really should matter. It has certainly brought out all the arm-chair investigators on my Facederp feed. Am I being harsh? I dont know, but sorry, not sorry, I dont care.

Even a low life is entitled to a fair trial. Two men received life sentences based on a testimony that was coerced from a teenager with developmental disabilities that was questioned without his parents or a lawyer present.

I'll also say that the diparity between the way that the rich and poor are treated by the criminal justice system is a major issue that everyone should be concerned about.
 
I was trying to play guitar to try out the new DOD Phasor for clean stuff and I could tell I am much more of a bass player than a guitar player anymore. I stumbled from time to time on the tight string spacing on guitar these days. I also stumbled to do clean chordal picking like I used to be half decent at, though that is boring poopie anyway. I know most all the cowboy and barre chords but I am a hack at the three and four note funk and R&B chords.
 

I've been working on writing and practicing surf rock instrumentals lately and it has the same effect. Really highlighted how rusty I was on guitar.

I figure if I can get comfortable with the major/minor/7th's barre chording, I will be able to play rhythm on most things. I have had a guitar of some sort of guitar in my direct possession for 20 years, but have always focused mostly on bass, and outside of power chords I have not invested much in to the skinny strings.

I know most all the cowboy and barre chords but I am a hack at the three and four note funk and R&B chords.

See I am actually better at the later. They are all just the triads, and the basis for walking bass stuff. I know three or four cowboy chords off the top of my head.
 
I figure if I can get comfortable with the major/minor/7th's barre chording, I will be able to play rhythm on most things. I have had a guitar of some sort of guitar in my direct possession for 20 years, but have always focused mostly on bass, and outside of power chords I have not invested much in to the skinny strings.



See I am actually better at the later. They are all just the triads, and the basis for walking bass stuff. I know three or four cowboy chords off the top of my head.

I can see chord progressions easily with power and barre chords on the neck. Like I IV V starting with the I on the E or A string are down pat in my head. But the high strings the whole shift from fourths to thirds at the B string and smaller triads, I get lost going through the scales and chord progressions. Sometimes I wish guitar left the cowboy chords and barre chords to learn later when learning guitar. Wish I started with theory and triad stuff more. It helps me to use those what I call reggae and Hendrix barre chords to see the neck patterns more on the higher strings. Like just playing the bottom of the barre chord with a different finger pattern and using your thumb on the sixth string or no thumb at all.
 
I can see chord progressions easily with power and barre chords on the neck. Like I IV V starting with the I on the E or A string are down pat in my head. But the high strings the whole shift from fourths to thirds at the B string and smaller triads, I get lost going through the scales and chord progressions. Sometimes I wish guitar left the cowboy chords and barre chords to learn later when learning guitar. Wish I started with theory and triad stuff more. It helps me to use those what I call reggae and Hendrix barre chords to see the neck patterns more on the higher strings. Like just playing the bottom of the barre chord with a different finger pattern and using your thumb on the sixth string or no thumb at all.
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I can see chord progressions easily with power and barre chords on the neck. Like I IV V starting with the I on the E or A string are down pat in my head. But the high strings the whole shift from fourths to thirds at the B string and smaller triads, I get lost going through the scales and chord progressions. Sometimes I wish guitar left the cowboy chords and barre chords to learn later when learning guitar. Wish I started with theory and triad stuff more. It helps me to use those what I call reggae and Hendrix barre chords to see the neck patterns more on the higher strings. Like just playing the bottom of the barre chord with a different finger pattern and using your thumb on the sixth string or no thumb at all.

I am just staying away from the high strings for now... ;)
 
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Cough, cough, me...

All this bass can't be heard reminds me of a certain band I used to be in...HAH!!! Glad I don't have to deal with that anymore. Sure I miss the music but the struggle of dealing with that gui****, its much easier with this new gui****, he actually knows how to EQ guitar.

Had a daytime GH practice today, tuned up to D standard and vast tonal improvements!!! More feeling of bass, tighter sound, still heavy as fvck. C standard was just to low I guess.

Also made myself a new TGWN song today and yesterday, been doing some experimenting with this Casio SK1 keyboard I have, its actually pretty cool, made a loop and played down some guitar of it...Someone texted me right in the middle of recording for the 15th time to get it right and said f it, its a part of the song now.

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Dig the Soundcloud Max, TWWN'in my morning away, wish I was listening to it at home with some kava and a couch.
 
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I figure if I can get comfortable with the major/minor/7th's barre chording, I will be able to play rhythm on most things. I have had a guitar of some sort of guitar in my direct possession for 20 years, but have always focused mostly on bass, and outside of power chords I have not invested much in to the skinny strings.

Same here, most of the music I've played guitar for is just power chords and single notes. I know the barre chords and enough general theory to know when to play what (short of jazz or whatnot), but I've had to practice a lot to be able to play smoothly when switching back and forth quickly while playing cleanly.