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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
- Thread starter Korladis
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Well, it could be that he doesn't think most bass players want large cabs nowadays and he's mostly right. I've been prototyping a sealed 218 cab. To me it sounds insanely good and it's half the weight of some 810's, but I may not bring it to market because I have my doubts anyone would want one these days. If anything, I'll make a couple and just market them locally.
Regarding 45 degree angle ports, one small (possible) advantage is you get additional bracing along with your ports. Best I can come up withWith some of my DIY Proto cabs that use porting, I've been perfectly happy with store bought Precision ports
Let me know if you ever decide to start making 2x18s or are willing to send me plans. I'm kind of looking to build a couple cabs that match my headcase.
Well he was a dumbass and had no mid control put on his custom order. At best, he would have a passive mid, which dialed all the way up, and the bass and trebble down, would give him almost flat response. With no mid, who knows where the EQ curve is? Could be all the way up to flat, could be all the way down to scooped? Fender tone stacks can work, if you know what you are getting in to, but IMHO they are much more guitar oriented.
The other guy is fighting like 8or 12 12" speakers on his guitarist's rig.
Yeah, a full 812 stack with one amp, and a second 412 with a second amp. One vintage 810 and a 200 watt amp are not going to cut it.
Hence my recommendation. A dually with gain him a few dB of sensitivity, and a second an additional three. A 4-5dB increase in volume, plus more frequency content would give him a lot more sound.
I've played with(against) a guitarist with 2 full stacks once. I never even came close to being heard. Intentionally playing wrong notes was completely unnoticed. I think I had my 215D with a 210 on top.
Don't want to have to do that again without something like a '66.
Right. The real answer to his question is two '66's and a big ass power amp with a meat smoke pre if that is the sound he is going for.
Hell I have played with guitarists that insisted that I was too loud when it was actually their low end making everything tone suck. To the point where I dialed out all my lows, and was running pure snarl, or even off. Still had them complaining I had too much low end/volume. Some times they are just guit a r ds.
Yeah - fender tone stack is tricky. Dealt with it in the LH1000 and the BBE BMAX before that. The Ampeg active/adjustable/kinda-parametric mid EQ is MUCH nicer.
Will the Meatsmoke head do 2 ohms? I'm guessing not - otherwise 2nd 8x10 would be the easiest.
I have no problem with LOUD, but even I have my limits. If I was up against 1 guitarist with that much amp and cone I'd be pissed. I deal with 2 100W half stacks and that poopie can get ridiculous, can't imagine more than that.
Will the Meatsmoke head do 2 ohms? I'm guessing not - otherwise 2nd 8x10 would be the easiest.
I have no problem with LOUD, but even I have my limits. If I was up against 1 guitarist with that much amp and cone I'd be pissed. I deal with 2 100W half stacks and that poopie can get ridiculous, can't imagine more than that.
In times like these I am sooooo happy I have no 6-skinny-stringers to sonically fight with. My rig right now is about 260 tube watts total across three amps, 2x10" + 1x15" + 4x12" speakers and I find it's more than adequate to make anyone sensible put in their ear protection and provide ample acoustic intestinal massage to all in the room.
btw Happy New Year everybody.
Had a lovely 1.5week+ off work. No travel, no alarms set, slept like a hibernating bear, feasted, drank, played with my boys, started and finished BYOC Muff clone build ("Large Beaver"), it sounds sweet.
Looking forward to first Hex Volt practice next week since drummer broke his arm back in November.
btw Happy New Year everybody.
Had a lovely 1.5week+ off work. No travel, no alarms set, slept like a hibernating bear, feasted, drank, played with my boys, started and finished BYOC Muff clone build ("Large Beaver"), it sounds sweet.
Looking forward to first Hex Volt practice next week since drummer broke his arm back in November.
I think my Palmer Bazz is taking a slow dump. Getting volume fluctuations when it's on. Thought it was the AC12 but it's LOUD and CLEAR with no effects engaged. Bummed if it is the Bazz, I love that pedal.
I think I need to do a full tear-down and rebuild of the pedalboard. I wanted to pull the 105q and sell it anyway. Maybe that'll fix the issue, if not then at least I know it's the pedal. Hopefully it's something I can fix easily.
I think I need to do a full tear-down and rebuild of the pedalboard. I wanted to pull the 105q and sell it anyway. Maybe that'll fix the issue, if not then at least I know it's the pedal. Hopefully it's something I can fix easily.
His second fuq up was not ordering a 300w version.
Yeah it's a bear to deal with. I'm at about my wits end and definitely my financial end trying to keep up with my band. If it remains a problem with two duallies, I'll be finding another band.
I would have loved to get two 66s but thats way more money than I'd be able to generate in a relatively timely manner.
I know the 300 watt version will go down to two ohms. I can't believe anyone would buy one of these with no mid control. I love mine but I have the midst cranked on it so that I atleast have some. But knowing most metal bassists he's probably got the bass boost on and the bass EQ turned all the way up and he can't figure out why it won't get loud enough to cut through.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. People just don't get that scooping absolutely kills perceived volume. Went through this with the last band, guitar player didn't want to listen to me or other people on the internet. Found some awesome sounding scooped tones that worked for recording or solo in the basement. Spent 2/3 of a practice wondering why I couldn't shaging hear the guitar, drummer thinking the same thing.
Me: "Dude, is something wrong with your amp? Because I can't hear you at all."
Him: "Oh, maybe, I'm not sure, seems loud enough to me..."
We play another song, drummer and I exchanging glances, can't hear poopie.
Me: "OK dude, seriously, something is wrong with your rig. You need to figure it out before our show next week because you can't be heard over the drummer."
Him: (turns mids knob back up).
Me: "MUCH BETTER."
NPD yesterday.
Totally worth the $40 bucks, so glad I snatched it off of ebay. @Pelham Bleu I can see why they are ending up for sale so cheap. They cut a lot of treble, it is a lot darker sounding than a Small Stone. Lots of sounds in this thing and it worked great on bass IMO.
Leaving the knob at 7am it just adds this kind of cool flavor to your sound, though it you are a Geddy Lee type you might not like the treble bleed. When I used it with the Behringer Super Fuzz and Boss ODB-3 I could really hear how much high end it cuts. With guitar I kept the pickup switch set to the bridge as it almost seemed too dark for guitar in other pickup positions. I could see why guitarists are dumping them.
Up to noon you just get a very subtle phase sound.
Noon to 3pm you get a decent swoosh going.
After 3pm you get into Vibe tones, good stuff.
Now the really fun part, on max you get stutter, tremolo effects. This sounded wicked with my MXR Slash Octave Fuzz, almost synthy.
With and without dirt pedals this is a great phaser for bass.
Totally worth the $40 bucks, so glad I snatched it off of ebay. @Pelham Bleu I can see why they are ending up for sale so cheap. They cut a lot of treble, it is a lot darker sounding than a Small Stone. Lots of sounds in this thing and it worked great on bass IMO.
Leaving the knob at 7am it just adds this kind of cool flavor to your sound, though it you are a Geddy Lee type you might not like the treble bleed. When I used it with the Behringer Super Fuzz and Boss ODB-3 I could really hear how much high end it cuts. With guitar I kept the pickup switch set to the bridge as it almost seemed too dark for guitar in other pickup positions. I could see why guitarists are dumping them.
Up to noon you just get a very subtle phase sound.
Noon to 3pm you get a decent swoosh going.
After 3pm you get into Vibe tones, good stuff.
Now the really fun part, on max you get stutter, tremolo effects. This sounded wicked with my MXR Slash Octave Fuzz, almost synthy.
With and without dirt pedals this is a great phaser for bass.
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I run a really grindy kind of bass tone with the mids on my bass pre up. When I got the amp back from the studio when they were reamping us my amp had all the mids cut back and the bass boost and knob turned all the way up. Spent days trying to figure out why I couldn't hear myself at all. No wonder you can't hear my bass tone on our demo. Was fairly disapointing. But having been kicked out more than once I just gave up since the guitarist was the only one that could deal with the guy. The kicker is that the dude who recorded us was a bassist and had no idea how to EQ bass to be heard.
That's unacceptable. I don't understand the lack of teamwork in some bands. How does your guitarist side with AssHat studio guy and not you?
