• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

So is my peavey 610. HAH!!!

Finally taking da MACE to a tech, it did need new tubes but theres still a brackground sputtery fizzle to it. Gonna get it recapped and tell the guy i use it for bass so if theres any quick or cheapish mods he can do to make it better for low end to do so.

Still looking for the right amp tech for the VTA400, Bear unfortunately doesnt want to mess with it, TAKE MY MONEY DAMMIT. I want this thing pretty much completely rewired, so when I get it back its better than new. I want this thing to be my end all be all amp. Basically a custom Peavey. I just dont want it to take more than 3 months. Price really isnt an issue.

Man cant wait to run DA MACE and VTA400 together for a full TUBEHenge.

"Yeah... Im going to need you to make this run an octet of KT88's... That'd be great...."
 
"Yeah... Im going to need you to make this run an octet of KT88's... That'd be great...."

Nah ill stick with a quad of tubes. 200+ watts should be plenty. And if i really need more I want to add a slave out to run it with my 800 Booster. 200+ tube watts and 420ish old school SS watts should be able to crush the world.

20160203_235339.jpg
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sartori and mpdd
Those centurys are dope!!! Dem para mids make it capable of a lot of sounds. One of those are on my wanted list.

It's pretty cool, need to use my ISP decimator I think if I'm gonna hit it full tilt with the DOD 250.

Got the Pharaoh Supreme dialed in last night for some sweet, low-tuned sludgy doom. Real nice and thick in the mix. As I've seen elsewhere, the MOSFET clipping is my favorite. This thing just begs to have songs built around the tone!

Do you right the songs for your band on guitar and switch to bass?

Im glad my 215 is a one hand carry... :D

Indeed people always try and help me carry it, but I have to tell them it's easier if they don't.

Still looking for the right amp tech for the VTA400, Bear unfortunately doesnt want to mess with it, TAKE MY MONEY DAMMIT. I want this thing pretty much completely rewired, so when I get it back its better than new. I want this thing to be my end all be all amp. Basically a custom Peavey. I just dont want it to take more than 3 months. Price really isnt an issue.

When you say rewired, do you mean a few mods? Or you actually want someone to physically rewire e v e r y s i n g l e c o m p o n e n t??

I'm pretty sure you can't put those 2 in the same sentence.

Never been to a tech, but I'd assume even easy tweaks aren't cheap. Though usually changes if any are just removing or swapping a few caps.
 
Though usually changes if any are just removing or swapping a few caps.
The number 1 thing I've heard that separates a bass tube amplifier from guitar is the transformers. IIRC that's the most expensive part of any tube amplifier.
Caps can help a preamp, but poweramp caps aren't much help without the bigger tranny.

Dear god someone that got further through school help me out.

@Satyrnine @dunwichamps
 
The number 1 thing I've heard that separates a bass tube amplifier from guitar is the transformers. IIRC that's the most expensive part of any tube amplifier.
Caps can help a preamp, but poweramp caps aren't much help without the bigger tranny.

Dear god someone that got further through school help me out.

@Satyrnine @dunwichamps

Oh yea, but if the mace is like my rockmaster its got massive trannies with Adam's apples n all. Also yea... Not cheap at all.
 
Killer pedal...here's some clips for anyone who's curious.

[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

It's killer on bass. Only selling it b/c I also have a DunnO))) Blackbeard and they're essentially identical sounding.

Since we're flashing rig pics today:
 

Attachments

  • image.jpeg
    image.jpeg
    503.8 KB · Views: 39
When you say rewired, do you mean a few mods? Or you actually want someone to physically rewire e v e r y s i n g l e c o m p o n e n t??

Never been to a tech, but I'd assume even easy tweaks aren't cheap. Though usually changes if any are just removing or swapping a few caps.

The number 1 thing I've heard that separates a bass tube amplifier from guitar is the transformers. IIRC that's the most expensive part of any tube amplifier.
Caps can help a preamp, but poweramp caps aren't much help without the bigger tranny.

Dear god someone that got further through school help me out.

@Satyrnine @dunwichamps

Saying completely rewire is an exaggeration, I just mean I want no part untouched, a full restoration, have it tweaked for absolute crushage and highest performance possible, I want a custom/boutique/"Dunwich" amp in a Peavey Tuxedo.

I don't want to turn da MACE into a straight up bass amp, I use it for my highs. Im just looking for what askrere said, maybe some removing or swapping of a few caps in the preamp, like moving the freq points in which the tone controls control to a low freq. I don't really need more bass, I just want to be able to control it better. Like I know in PVY VTMs theres a bright cap that if you cut out, it takes a lot of harshness out and you get a more meaty fullness.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sartori and mbelue
Researching some common mods people do to MACEs and most guit-ards are saying its too bassy and muddy so they're all trying to brightening it up...HAHA and everyone plays with a pair of tubes out to lower the watts, PANSIES I SAY!!!

I saw a premier guitar article a few months back where someone wrote in wanting to permanently mod their Fender Studio Bass down to 50W or something. So the tech/writer guy responded with a long involved process to irreversibly modify the amp. JUST BY A shagING BASSMAN AND SELL THE STUDIO TO SOMEONE THAT WANTS A 200W AMP. Sheesh.
 
Anybody know a way to see if people have you on their ignore list?
Just ranted about 12 posts worth at one particular dude who recommended replacing an 8x10 with a 2x12 and telling the guitars to turn down. Think I pissed him off.

I get really tired of the advice "turn down or I'm going home." Sounds like these people really don't want to play.
 
I saw a premier guitar article a few months back where someone wrote in wanting to permanently mod their Fender Studio Bass down to 50W or something. So the tech/writer guy responded with a long involved process to irreversibly modify the amp. JUST BY A ****ING BASSMAN AND SELL THE STUDIO TO SOMEONE THAT WANTS A 200W AMP. Sheesh.

Who wouldn't want a 200 watt bassman? That is like the holy grail for pedal pushers.
 
  • Like
Reactions: deathsdj
Saying completely rewire is an exaggeration, I just mean I want no part untouched, a full restoration, have it tweaked for absolute crushage and highest performance possible, I want a custom/boutique/"Dunwich" amp in a Peavey Tuxedo.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Someone could take all the money you throw at him and do very little especially if your not aware or looking inside for yourself. Be thankful they said no for now is my thought, shows they care.

Really there's the clean up/tune up which may or may not be necessary. Then the custom aspect. Which might be more time and trouble than it's worth to most guys. A few cap changes maybe, but if they have to build custom boards, and retrofit the entire thing and still match the asthetics and keep it sounding "peavey" it might be more than most are capable of, or their times better spent getting new customers rather than charging you the price of a used car to alter a working amp and reinventing the wheel so to speak.

Whatever path you find, hope it works out! I assume it's killer though as is or modded.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sartori
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Someone could take all the money you throw at him and do very little especially if your not aware or looking inside for yourself. Be thankful they said no for now is my thought, shows they care.

Really there's the clean up/tune up which may or may not be necessary. Then the custom aspect. Which might be more time and trouble than it's worth to most guys. A few cap changes maybe, but if they have to build custom boards, and retrofit the entire thing and still match the asthetics and keep it sounding "peavey" it might be more than most are capable of, or their times better spent getting new customers rather than charging you the price of a used car to alter a working amp and reinventing the wheel so to speak.

Whatever path you find, hope it works out! I assume it's killer though as is or modded.

But it is broke, it came with no power tubes, no handles, no metal corners, looks like it was taken apart at some point because the quick connects weren't put back together. Guy I got it from said he saw it power up when he went and bought it but that guy kept the tubes, and apparently it blows fuses. Sooooo I will fix it...and thats why Im looking for the right guy to do it, the place I just dropped the MACE off at or the main amp tech in the area aren't the right guys for the job, they probably wouldn't even touch it. There is a couple guys I'm talking with, one guy I know here in MKE made custom amps under Space Race Amps, and even made an amp for Matt Pike at one point. And 2 guys in Madison, one being Bongzillas go to amp tech and the other being none other that our very own @Satyrnine.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Sartori

Latest posts