Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[Korladis]

I'm a pick player and I pretty much never palm mute. Part of the reason is that I really like playing pretty close to/sometimes even over the neck. I like the sound there.
I did palm mute for one song on the last album...the guitars were sparse and dialed back during the verses and I wanted that sort of dead, muted thump. I thought about getting an actual mute or some foam but it's just for the verses, not the whole song.

Palm muted bass at about 1:30

Nice song, really like it.

The last band that I played primarily with a pick in was a black metal band, so... not a whole lot of palm muting, anyway. In that band I used a Rickenbacker 4001 with the pickup cover, and used the cover as a handrest.

In Catapult and Dustern, I play primarily with fingers, though I do use a pick fairly frequently in Catapult, sometimes switching multiple times per song. I guess the reason I tend not to palm mute is that it always seems to make my bass disappear in the mix.

I switch between pick and finger playing. We have a part in one of the songs thats kind of a tribal rhythm and i play that part partially palm muted. Just to kind of add to the kick drums thwump and make it sound more mechanical due to all the gain i run. Kind of sounds like a car wreck in slow motion.

The ending of our first record is like that, but I didn't even think to try palm muting.

possibly. all the ones i've seen/used had KT88s

I guess it's possible. I thought American amps generally used 6550s or 6L6s at that time, though. Maybe @D.M.N. would know.

I've been face first in Pinewood Derby cars with my kids for the last week or so. Watching a nine year old weakling try to use a coping saw is just maddening, and then the terror of putting spray paint cans in their hands...

I remember pinewood derby cars. Good times. My first one got stuck on the track.

i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure you're not supposed to regulate the groove or limit the funk

The groove regulator is presumably to ensure that the the groove remains at a constant level and never drops too low.

 

[Korladis]

Haven't been in this thread in a while!



Sunns used KT88s until mid '69 when they switched to US sourced 6550s as the UK KT88s were becoming harder to source.


With regards to 6550s, my choice there is the Tung-Sols. They're great, have a set of the reissues in one of my 2000s, and they sound very similar to the vintage US pair in another 2000s. I've also been wanting to try some Gold Lion KT88s in my Sunns, I like the idea of even more hi-fi especially since my new amp for Treble/distortion is....

A Marshall JTM45/100. Arrived a week or so ago. Picked it up off ebay for around the current going prices of 1000s series Sunns, and it showed up with all the documentation, AND a seriously heavy duty ATA case. It's one of the 2005 40th Anniversary run, which is modeled of The Who's original Marshall Super 100s. It has 2 50w output transformers, and is really only about 80w. But damn, it sounds SWEET when pushed into early OD. There is a hell of a lot of bass on tap on the amp, I'm running it similar to my Sunns, Bass on about 2, Mids, Treble, and Presence cranked. It is definitely the sound of 60s bass cranked; Entwistle, Bruce, Ron Wood, Noel Redding. When I first tried it last week, I blew the HT fuse and it turned out one of the KT66s had cooked. Just got the new one tonight, and biased the head up. First time doing that, finally getting some use out of the Weber Biasrite I bought. Damn, these things have some serious plate voltage (530v). Also means I never have to take an amp to a tech again to replace tubes, that shizz is so easy.

In other news I'm going down to L.A. tomorrow for the weekend, that's about all the news out of my court...

Ninja'd, lol.

Interesting that they used both.

 

[gfen]

I remember pinewood derby cars. Good times. My first one got stuck on the track.

I must've done 4 of them for myself, but somehow I only remember one of them, teh first. Maybe I never did it after the first one? Weird.

This is the 3rd year I've had to do them for my two kids. We've got really good track records, though, in the 4 previous cars we took two trophies for most creative and one went to districts for speed. This year my kids are doing all the work themselves, I've only shown them the step and they they've done it all, our pack does a special competition if they do it all themselves.

They also have me running all the races, which is actually pretty stressful because this is like the big event and it's all on my shoulders to do all the race computer stuff. It's not ike it was in 1981, that's for sure. Like people get really, really serious over this.

I've had an enormous amount of stress from this. I kinda can't wait for it to be over.

I'll stop talking about Cub Scouts now.

 

[Korladis]

I must've done 4 of them for myself, but somehow I only remember one of them, teh first. Maybe I never did it after the first one? Weird.

This is the 3rd year I've had to do them for my two kids. We've got really good track records, though, in the 4 previous cars we took two trophies for most creative and one went to districts for speed. This year my kids are doing all the work themselves, I've only shown them the step and they they've done it all, our pack does a special competition if they do it all themselves.

They also have me running all the races, which is actually pretty stressful because this is like the big event and it's all on my shoulders to do all the race computer stuff. It's not ike it was in 1981, that's for sure. Like people get really, really serious over this.

I've had an enormous amount of stress from this. I kinda can't wait for it to be over.

I'll stop talking about Cub Scouts now.

I remember it being like a big highlight of the year, but people get super serious about it? Damn.

 

[rxdiablo]

possibly. all the ones i've seen/used had KT88s

They were 6550s originally, at least the Sonaro, 200S, 1200S, and 2000S. All of mine were 1970-2 models, though. The earlier ones were different, perhaps? Lots of folks have changed them up in last 45 years though, for sure!

The explanation I've always heard is people wanting more power (1200S/ 2000S are only 120 watts) made the switch. I'm no kind of tech, though, that may be flawed logic. I believe the "hi-fi" sound from Sunn amps is their output transformers are ultra linear and put out really accurate lows, so they don't sound as wooly as we expect from 6550s, ala SVT s...

 

[Korladis]

Bah, I'm getting pedal ideas that I can't afford.

 

[mpdd]

Just took my 16 year old pit to get put to sleep, hopefully things will improve this afternoon. The basset hound and duck retriever are pretty down too.

 

[deathness]

Ugh sucks dude. One of my closest friends just had to put down her cat. Never feels good. You just gotta know you gave em a good safe life while they had life to experience.

 

[Korladis]

Just took my 16 year old pit to get put to sleep, hopefully things will improve this afternoon. The basset hound and duck retriever are pretty down too.

:'(

Sorry to hear that, dude. My mom had to have her old dog, who I grew up with, put down a few months ago. Feels awful.

 

[mpdd]

that dog was probably the only thing that kept me alive when i lived in some of the most sketchy neighborhoods in LA

 

[gfen]

Sorry brother, but think of it in a different light...16 year of positive life and family love is more than many APBTs will ever see in this country, so you gave him all you could. Furthermore, when you're ready, it frees you up to take another animal in that won't have a chance without you there.

A full life, and a chance to pass it on to another. I can't speak for your dog, but I'd be OK with that legacy if I were he.

 

[vdub75]

Feeling ya, never had a dog myself but I tend to fall in love with doggies of my friends haha, a Buddy has two am pitbull ladies, real sweethears, they love me to pieces every time I visit my buddies house. still can't believe those are listed "dangerous fighting Dogs" over here....

 

[bassboysam]

sorry to hear man. lost my bassett almost a year ago so i know the feeling.

 

[dcarwin]

We have one of these connected to the headphone jack on our 8 channel mixer and close mic everything at practice. We actually get really good quality demo from it.

We use a Zoom H4N, same idea - helps to record jam riffs that can evolve into songs.

 

[mpdd]

i'll be at namm tomorrow, hit me up with your booth numbers or message me if you want some pics

 

[Korladis]

i'll be at namm tomorrow, hit me up with your booth numbers or message me if you want some pics

Just curious about new tube heads, really.

 

[kleinenenten]

i'll be at namm tomorrow, hit me up with your booth numbers or message me if you want some pics

Way Huge and DOD, if you have time. Thanks in advance, for anything you tell us!

 

[Jolagh]

I had an h4n and preferred its onboard mics to the tascam. But because we have everything close micd through the mixer then just record the headphone output to the tascam and not use the onboard mics.

We use a Zoom H4N, same idea - helps to record jam riffs that can evolve into songs.

 

[Korladis]

i'll be at namm tomorrow, hit me up with your booth numbers or message me if you want some pics

The new Embassy basses at Epiphone's booth. If they have one. I have no idea if they do. Please take pics of the back if so.

 

[mpdd]

The new Embassy basses at Epiphone's booth. If they have one. I have no idea if they do. Please take pics of the back if so.

Alright I'm trying to wake up, the Benadryl is not wearing off, it's raining like crazy I'm looking for a plastic bag to put my camera in