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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

When I tuned C, I used .115 nickels. Went to B and switched between .125 and .130 5 string sets and dropped the highest string. Now we’re in G. I use a .155 standard 5 string set, but this is a 35” scale 5 string. My old 34” scale jazz style, has a custom set starting with a .170 for G.

I personally think a .105 or .110 would be good for what you’re trying to accomplish.
 
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Hey guys,
Any advice for tuning to D-standard or string recommendations?

Man, Ive spent too much of my life pondering this question.
Generally I like the tension of a standard 45-100 set in EADG tuning on a 34" scale bass. Probably because thats how I learned to play, but that always been comfortable for me to get clean and fast playing.

When I started playing alternate turnings and basses of different scales, I struggled to find the right string sizes to get the play-ability I wanted. I play low and slow mostly now, so I am able to compromise a bit on string tension; I don't need or even like them at "stock" tension. However I couldn't find the correct mixture of size and string tension that allowed me to have reasonable action, sustain, and allowed me to dig in without getting a shitload of buzz/noise.

After a lot of experimentation, I finally decided to see if math could help me. I created this spreadsheet. It calculates string unit weight based on your basses scale, the note the string is tuned to (denoted as frequency), and the desired tension. For instance a 100 tuned to E on a 34" scale bass has a tension of 36.5 lbs. So if I use that tension figure as a target for the tension I wish to have on my 35" scale bass tuned to A#, the spreadsheet will tell me I need to look for a string with a unit weight of 0.003389. That equates to about a 140 in the low position. That's a tree trunk and I find it almost unplayable with major sustain issues and intonation problems. So, like I said, I compromise a little. A little less tension, maybe a tiny bit of extra height on the bridge, and I've made slight adjustments to my technique over time. The custom set of strings I use now on my 35" scale bass actually plays a lot like a 40-95 set in standard tuning.... It's glorious.

Anyway, try it out and let me know if you want some help. The frequency conversion chart is on the second tab. All the UW and Tension references are based on D'Addario XLs because that's what I play, but I did some comparison and strings of the same gauge are similar. You can plug in your actual figures from your string manufacturer to get more accurate output.

Oh by the way; For your D string to achieve the same tension as a 100 tuned to E... you'd be looking at a 110. But I think a 105 is more comfortable and can be played cleanly.

String Tension Calculator
 
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Sucks that Windhand is playing here in Sept and I’ll be out of town...
As someone who just moved to an area where bands actually come I feel your pain. I missed a few bands before I moved and now I don’t know when they’ll be back. Thankfully, Acid King is coming in September and they’ll be my first concert. I’m so pumped
 
Flipper (one huge favourite of mine) are going to play in Milan and I was thinking about how much I don't care to see another "great 30 years ago" band.

Hmmm. What I'll say about that is that I saw them around 26 years ago. Not sure which bass player I saw, but it was long after Shatter had died. At the time, I was unsure about seeing another band that was "great 5 years ago". I was there to see the Dwarves and Ed Hall, mostly. I ended up being really impressed that the guys who had put out American Grafishy put on a really good set.

And I've seen Yow several times. Once he got nailed with a bottle on stage, and still continued the show. I think he alone would probably be worth the price of admission.
 
Wow, that's a strict policy :roflmao:
Jokes aside, when a bands' better days have been several decades ago, it usually feels very much like a sad "revival" thing to me.

Hehehe, well, it was a quite different band from 5 years before. Every record before that was pretty good. American Grafishy was...different from the others.

And well, yeah. Replacing your long-dead vocalist with a well-known guy kind of smacks of the Doors touring with Ian Astbury, but I'd show up for a David Yow show even if it was him and your grandma on bongos. I've seen more than one Jesus Lizard or Scratch Acid cover (hell, my current band does one), and I've never even heard a convincing imitation of that man.

Full disclosure: David Yow once threatened to put his genitalia in my mouth in a non-verbal and very real fashion, which no one covering him has ever done. So, my fondness for the man may be colored by some delicate mixture of PTSD, Stockholm syndrome, and romance. Either way, he's really David Yow, all the time.
 
but I'd show up for a David Yow show even if it was him and your grandma on bongos.
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Full disclosure: David Yow once threatened to put his genitalia in my mouth in a non-verbal and very real fashion, which no one covering him has ever done. So, my fondness for the man may be colored by some delicate mixture of PTSD, Stockholm syndrome, and romance.
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 
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I have missed so many bands that I kick myself over. Sadly I probably could have made a lot of those shows, but it always seemed an unfortunate timing with my finances and work schedule then...

Ones I'm truly sorry I missed include RATM 2007, Soundgarden's last show, Sabbath's last tour, and Motorhead.

The Soundgarden and rage ones really bum me out. The other two I was told were really good and the tickets were cheap. Not huge on seeing the "great 30yrs ago bands," but those two would be an exception for me.

There's many others, but a lot of them will be back around...Truckfighters (next weekend) and Fu Manchu are two that I will miss/missed. Seems like both are slowing the roll and Fu Manchu doesn't make it this far over that frequently.
 
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I’m about 1.5-2 hours from Nashville. I miss a lot of shows and miss a ton of those “nostalgia” acts as well. I was fortunate to get to see Sleep for their mini/reunion tour thing where they only played 3 shows or whatever a few years ago. Caught Om in Louisville Ky at some bar that looked like the basement of some run down house. And Lord only knows how many times I’ve saw The Sword and others at Exit/In here. All in all I’m fortunate to live that close to a high concert area, but it still sucks when a band or act comes around I really like and can’t get to the show lol. First world problems, right? Lol
 
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I'm spoiled living in Denver, though certainly there are even better places for shows. In addition to most (though not all) national tours making a stop here, there are a lot of good local bands. That said, there are plenty of shows I've been to that were missable.
 
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I'm spoiled living in Denver, though certainly there are even better places for shows. In addition to most (though not all) national tours making a stop here, there are a lot of good local bands. That said, there are plenty of shows I've been to that were missable.
This is the worst part about living in the Springs. Everything goes to Denver and you’re lucky for whatever comes through here. Sometimes that traffic on 25 is enough to keep me from even the best shows.