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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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That was my very first pedal ever when I starting playing guitar when I was 13 (back in 1983)! I had all but forgotten about that thing! I used it for about 2 months and then bought a brand new (then) HM-2. I used that HM-2 for 20+ years until it disappeared from my pedalboard at a show.
I honestly have no recollection of what happened to that Little Big Muff though.... [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
 
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That was my very first pedal ever when I starting playing guitar when I was 13 (back in 1983)! I had all but forgotten about that thing! I used it for about 2 months and then bought a brand new (then) HM-2. I used that HM-2 for 20+ years until it disappeared from my pedalboard at a show.
I honestly have no recollection of what happened to that Little Big Muff though.... [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
Ah yes, the Lori S special!
 
I love my Superfuzz clone- BYOC Leeds Fuzz, I built mine with a tone knob instead of a switch, which gives a lot more options. I haven't recorded with this band [yet] but I do agree, running it in a one amp no blend set up is a bit tricky. I have never been happy running fuzz either straight or with a blend pedal/option. A biamp set up is the only way for me thats not a compromise.

My GK rig [800rb into neo 4x12] handles the punchy lows/low mids. My 'dirty' side is a 100w Tube Amp [Tyler JT100] which is a Marshall Superbass with a master volume. I run that side into an old tallboy Peavey 4x12. The superbass circuit, imo, absolutely loves pedals, esp fuzz, but ironically cannot really handle lows very well. So I run it in 'Lemmy' mode, with little to no bass.

Biamping is the only way I get the bass presence and punch I want with the filthy goodness too. Even with a blend pedal, I find one amp is 'fighting itself' and cannot both deliver the boom and the filth.

Totally agree I've had to compromise a bit. What I am surprised about is that when I do biamp, my little 15w vox sounds huge and articulate, though probably because the lows are cut and I put it on top of my bass rig.

I've yet to try a blend pedal like the boss with dirt, but almost any dirt pedal with blend just doesn't get all the way there. I imagine it might be better, but still not quite there. Good enough for live play though.

I wonder if it's the mix of harmonics and voicing differences between two amps that do it.
 
That was my very first pedal ever when I starting playing guitar when I was 13 (back in 1983)! I had all but forgotten about that thing! I used it for about 2 months and then bought a brand new (then) HM-2. I used that HM-2 for 20+ years until it disappeared from my pedalboard at a show.
I honestly have no recollection of what happened to that Little Big Muff though.... [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

Bummer on not accounts! I'm curious to try it. From the little info I've found, the filter section is fairly unique from any other muff. The lpf option creates a mid bump like a tone knob on a bass does, wondering if that will help in the mix.

That and I'm a sucker for simple pedals, 1 knob and a switch checks all my boxes and it's a rad looking box in a spartanesque kinda way
 
Bummer on not accounts! I'm curious to try it. From the little info I've found, the filter section is fairly unique from any other muff. The lpf option creates a mid bump like a tone knob on a bass does, wondering if that will help in the mix.

That and I'm a sucker for simple pedals, 1 knob and a switch checks all my boxes and it's a rad looking box in a spartanesque kinda way
I remember when I first got the HM-2 and compared it and the LBM side by side that I thought that the HM-2 sounded "less full" but, at that age, something that said "Heavy Metal" on it was better than something that said "Little Big Muff", lol
 
I'm guessing that's a reference to the Melvins drummer's ex-wife but I don't know the story.
Well I wouldn't reference her as 'only' the ex-wife of Dale Crover, seeing as she's a giant [in my eyes, at least] in stoner/doom being the creative mind behind Acid King. But yeah, shes used a les paul into a little big muff into a JCM800 stack her whole career. That pedal is part of the secret sauce of the AK tone.
 
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Totally agree I've had to compromise a bit. What I am surprised about is that when I do biamp, my little 15w vox sounds huge and articulate, though probably because the lows are cut and I put it on top of my bass rig.

I've yet to try a blend pedal like the boss with dirt, but almost any dirt pedal with blend just doesn't get all the way there. I imagine it might be better, but still not quite there. Good enough for live play though.

I wonder if it's the mix of harmonics and voicing differences between two amps that do it.
I notice my GK, when put into biamp mode, there's way more punch. Probably due to a narrower band of frequencies being all the cab has to worry about. Dunno for sure, but thats my best guess.
 
It's a hell of an experience. Truly a wall of sound. Oddest thing about it for me was how much easier it was to fit in any mix. Me and the guitarist spent zero time or thought on adjusting our mix.

Maybe we were lucky, maybe not, but it worked the first time for sure. I tended to use the octave up only into the vox. But when sending the full signal to both it still was great.

I've though about getting a bigger amp for dirt, but the one I got seems to be loud enough with the lows cut out. I think a lot had to do with it being much higher up, but I never had to use all the volume it has.
 
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bass big muff was my primary/only bass dirt for a number of years. depending on the mode switch one of the knobs works as a clean blend
I'm now using a fuzz loosely based off the axis fuzz (also has a clean blend)
now that i think about it i might as well list my bass big muff on reverb since it's just sitting on the floor
Which fuzz? I have an axis that I love but it’s not good for pedalboard space :/