Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[JoeVictim]

Two things that have been weird for me... how much I like the baked in sound of an Ampeg 8-10 classic and how much I like this Schecter still.

It still feels weird typing and thinking it. For sub $500, I am not sure I could have got a better 5 string. And free cabs are always awesome.

 

[socialleper]

Damn, that is some tasty guitar and bass tones there. Really nicely mixed.

I am split on the guitar tones. On one hand they are a nice thick throw back to early 90s death metal. On the other they lack a little definition. Some modern guitar tones are HPF pretty tight, which makes for clarity but takes some of the vibe out.

 

[CRich0205]

Guys. There's no rules in Doom. I think this is a universally accepted truth. So. A buddy and I are trying something. We're a (temporarily) drummer-less band, but we're looking. Our main goal is to make enough money in this Doom project to fund a small run of vinyls for the first and possibly only album, and play the album out (provided a drummer can be found). We both have other projects and full time jobs so this is 100% a labor of love and done for our hearts, not our wallets. A self-contained a doom-bubble, if you will.

That being said, I'm going to brag for a minute.

Like I said, there's no real rules. So we made shirts first. It's a limited run as a test to see if it's a sustainable method of cash to help support the project. Right now it's set at break-even pricing and in 2 days we've sold about half of the product.

Second, if anybody wants to give us a follow on Instagram, I'm @Daniel_doom_Louis and he's at @drdoomsdad . I'd greatly appreciate and accepta all criticism of the stuff we've been cobbling together!

I've included a link to a youtube scratch track below, as well as an image of the hoodies/shirts we had done up.

Sorry for being so braggadocious, this is the first time I've had "merch," and my wife 10000000% does not care. Y'all are the only people I know who might give a sh*t about any user's doomy accomplishments!

do you know if the shirts shrink up? I’ll take one of the purple graphic ones but I’m a weird in between medium and large. Lanky skinny guy problems

 

[Novarocker]

I am split on the guitar tones. On one hand they are a nice thick throw back to early 90s death metal. On the other they lack a little definition. Some modern guitar tones are HPF pretty tight, which makes for clarity but takes some of the vibe out.

both sound great. You guys remind me a bit of a local band called Cavalcade. Loved doing shows with those guys. They were kinda sludge punk/metal, and a little jazz. great stuff though, I checked out a tune on the EP too.

I think the guitar sound fits. its raw sounding in a good way, but with enough clarity.

 

[socialleper]

both sound great. You guys remind me a bit of a local band called Cavalcade. Loved doing shows with those guys. They were kinda sludge punk/metal, and a little jazz. great stuff though, I checked out a tune on the EP too.

I think the guitar sound fits. its raw sounding in a good way, but with enough clarity.

Thanks.

 

[djciano]

Rad! You have the space one with purple shirt in L?

The art kinda reminds me of a darker version of guardians of the galaxy.

We might! I have to head over to my counterpart's house this weekend and collect the box of shirts, since he's gonna be in NY for a week, so I'm taking over inventory and shipping while he's gone. The plan is to grab the box and post the actual size/graphic/volume combos so there's more transparency of our inventory.

He's a doctor so, if you'll pardon my NewEnglandah, he's wicked smaht. But I'm a distribution guy for an automotive manufacturer, and I've got that side of the fence a little more figured out.

Never in a million years would I have thought we'd have this much interest tho, and it's giving me 100% fits lol

 

[djciano]

do you know if the shirts shrink up? I’ll take one of the purple graphic ones but I’m a weird in between medium and large. Lanky skinny guy problems

They shouldn't... The tees are Gildan, so they are pretty solid, and the hoodies are like, carhart (sp) dummy thicc.

The sweatshirts actually remind me of how it felt to sneak out to the stop sign outside school grounds in the winter. That probably makes no sense, and it's not about what you asked about!

The quality seems really good on the tees now that I've got a few in my hands, and, if anything, they might eventually get the magical appearing armpit hole after a few hundred washes or something.

 

[ihaveaquestion]

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[BurtMacklinFBI]

I am split on the guitar tones. On one hand they are a nice thick throw back to early 90s death metal. On the other they lack a little definition. Some modern guitar tones are HPF pretty tight, which makes for clarity but takes some of the vibe out.

I think that's part of what I like about them. They've got texture and gravel to them, they aren't smooth and tame. Smooth can be good, but there's more than one way to make a guitar sound great. Whoever produced those guitars, I wouldn't be shocked if they were influenced at least a little by old '90s shoegaze bands, which IMO is a cool thing.

 

[CRich0205]

Two things that have been weird for me... how much I like the baked in sound of an Ampeg 8-10 classic and how much I like this Schecter still.

It still feels weird typing and thinking it. For sub $500, I am not sure I could have got a better 5 string. And free cabs are always awesome.

810s are an awesome thing if you dig the sound. I’m hauling mine to practice today for a little mini recording session maybe. I have a sealed 212 I like too for shows cause it’s got a great mod presence but my ampeg is definitely my favorite.

 

[bassboysam]

give me an ampeg 810 and i could not care less about the rest of the gear, it will stillwork for me, assuming the bass is playable.

 

[socialleper]

I think that's part of what I like about them. They've got texture and gravel to them, they aren't smooth and tame. Smooth can be good, but there's more than one way to make a guitar sound great. Whoever produced those guitars, I wouldn't be shocked if they were influenced at least a little by old '90s shoegaze bands, which IMO is a cool thing.

One of the guitarists is all about 90s nu metal. Mesa Triple Rec, slant 412, the whole thing. You can definitely hear his affinity for Korn in his tone. The other, who isn't with us anymore, I'm not sure about his influences. The leads were done by a new guitar player, who likes a tighter defined tone. When we record the next one I think I will have fun balancing the two very different tones.

 

[socialleper]

give me an ampeg 810 and i could not care less about the rest of the gear, it will stillwork for me, assuming the bass is playable.

Not all Ampeg 810s are created equal. It would seem that they have gone through some rough patches over the decades.
I can live with an 810 more than a the usual SVT-CL that goes along with them. I just can't make that head work for me. The EQ is too limited.

 

[BurtMacklinFBI]

One of the guitarists is all about 90s nu metal. Mesa Triple Rec, slant 412, the whole thing. You can definitely hear his affinity for Korn in his tone. The other, who isn't with us anymore, I'm not sure about his influences. The leads were done by a new guitar player, who likes a tighter defined tone. When we record the next one I think I will have fun balancing the two very different tones.

That does sound fun actually, IMO part of the point of having two guitarists (unless you're going to be Metallica and literally have one play only solos) is to have two different tones in the mix. More layers, more textures.

While I'm not terribly fond of Korn, their guitar tones on that first record were sick as all hell. They really should have had that producer work on the rest of their records.

 

[socialleper]

That does sound fun actually, IMO part of the point of having two guitarists (unless you're going to be Metallica and literally have one play only solos) is to have two different tones in the mix. More layers, more textures.

While I'm not terribly fond of Korn, their guitar tones on that first record were sick as all hell. They really should have had that producer work on the rest of their records.

One of the things I picked up a long time ago when I was listening to Suffocation's Effigy of the Forgotten is that one guitar was scooped and the other had more mids. They played off each other. That is really how it should be done. Up until that point I was used to Maiden or Slayer where you couldn't tell one guitar from another. Having two tones fills up the space better.
In a lot of doom and stoner metal, when there is two guitars, which isn't that often, they are trying to make things thick. Then they put some fuzz on the bass to make the mix even denser. Now it is like a full body massage of sound.
But that wouldn't have worked for us.
There is something monumental about that huge low B sound that Korn had. Early Carcass and Bolt Thrower had it too. Bolt Thrower is one of my favorite bands, so that will impact how I mix the guitars.
For the bass I wanted something with some presence, but that really had those chewy low mids that sit in the 150 to 300 range. I need to work on getting the upper end right, but I was happy with the low end.
Thanks for listening.

 

[bassboysam]

Not all Ampeg 810s are created equal. It would seem that they have gone through some rough patches over the decades.
I can live with an 810 more than a the usual SVT-CL that goes along with them. I just can't make that head work for me. The EQ is too limited.

True, though other than the SLM "dark" cabs, they are all similar enough for me. unfortunately the SLMs seem the most prominent when a backline is supplied

 

[cornfarmer]

Hola, amigos. I know it's been a long time since I rapped at ya. Christmastime is crazy yo!

I got a made in Gina Squier for $85. Sounds ok and the neck feels okayish too so I started sanding off the ink, I'm just gonna learn how to refinish it on my own. What should the headstock say now? Vote now!

 

[lucas303]

Hola, amigos. I know it's been a long time since I rapped at ya. Christmastime is crazy yo!
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I got a made in Gina Squier for $85. Sounds ok and the neck feels okayish too so I started sanding off the ink, I'm just gonna learn how to refinish it on my own. What should the headstock say now? Vote now!

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Jim Anchower reference made my night.

 

[Novarocker]

Haha thanks for the laugh.

I'd vote Gina Special

 

[CRich0205]

Ordered Tung sol reissues this morning for the svt. Guitarist was sick last night so drummer and I finally worked on our side project a bit. We have two solid ideas for tracks already and have decent recordings. Stoked for this.