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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Just finished a project of mine that I thought y'all may appreciate. Took an affinity J-Bass and gave it a new paint job and threw a mudbucking pup in it after routing over the old neck pup hole. The tone I'm getting from this monster is almost criminal. If you roll back the tone and keep the bridge pup turned off the bass nearly sounds like straight woofer. Turn up the tone as well as the bridge pup just slightly and the bass beautifully belches out some fantastic mids. I decided to play to it's strengths by buying a 5 string flatwound set to tune it to BEAD. Whenever I droptune it the metal riffs pretty much write themselves, Especially if I'm going for a early 2000's stoner, or a Sabbath feel. I think Tim Bagshaw had a Gibson with a similar mudbucking pup in it. Can't say if he used it during his time with Electric Wizard though... I've named it "The Big Ugly"

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Finally spent more time with the rubberneck on its own the other day and it reminded me of you asking about the volume. The volume knob on the pedal is wet vol only, I gotta double check on the gain knob but I think that is for the repeats only as well. Bummer cuz it's unique features seem like something that'd work great with your style.

I'll double check on the gain and let you know.


yeah i'd love one but no master volume would make it a no go for me.
 
Chromes. Five string set. Threw away the “G”. Tuned to “A” standard.

Tried to do the same with Labella Jamerson set (my fav for soul etc.) Tapered B string raised hell with my intonation though.
Ah, well, there it is then. Good luck with your search. Perhaps it’s a tuning thing, as I tune to standard (with the low B for the 5th String, obviously).
 
Ive got that 2000 P Deluxe bass that’s active with a P and double J pickups. Thinking about having it routed for a MM style instead of the double j. Any of y’all luthier types know if that’s possible without it looking or sounding like a sack of ass when it’s done?

Edit: If I don’t go that route, I need to at least put new pots and pre in it.
 
Ive got that 2000 P Deluxe bass that’s active with a P and double J pickups. Thinking about having it routed for a MM style instead of the double j. Any of y’all luthier types know if that’s possible without it looking or sounding like a sack of ass when it’s done?

Edit: If I don’t go that route, I need to at least put new pots and pre in it.

IMO as far as looks go the only thing I'd be worried about is the MM pup not being as wide as the double J. In that case you'd have some excess space on the sides of the pup that may or may not be annoying depending on how much space there actually is. On mine you can see where the old J cavity used to be, and it's bothering me so much I'm considering buying a black P bass pup cover to hide that and double as a thumb rest.

With sound I don't think you'd have to worry as long as you get a good pup and know how to balance your pups so that the pups compliment rather than overtake each others sound. I assume the pots on your bass are each an individual pup volume and then a master tone (please correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case you'll have to figure out what to do with the extra pot you'll have left over because you'll be going from three pups to two. At least my understanding of the stacked J pup is that you have control over both of the smaller pups rather than the one big one.
 
Any reason why a ground loop would get progressively worse? Had a loop, fixed a mess of power wires (1Spot), and it was dead quiet again. As I played for a few more minutes, I noticed the hum building again. What’s happening here?
I don't believe in the supernatural or magic, except when it comes to ground loops. Sometimes there is some real voodoo going on there that doesn't conform to any rhyme or reason.
 
Any reason why a ground loop would get progressively worse? Had a loop, fixed a mess of power wires (1Spot), and it was dead quiet again. As I played for a few more minutes, I noticed the hum building again. What’s happening here?

It definitely sounds like you have micro-proselytizers in your signal chain. Bow to the dark lord and play some heavy, minor-key riffs. It will all go away...
 
IMO as far as looks go the only thing I'd be worried about is the MM pup not being as wide as the double J. In that case you'd have some excess space on the sides of the pup that may or may not be annoying depending on how much space there actually is. On mine you can see where the old J cavity used to be, and it's bothering me so much I'm considering buying a black P bass pup cover to hide that and double as a thumb rest.

With sound I don't think you'd have to worry as long as you get a good pup and know how to balance your pups so that the pups compliment rather than overtake each others sound. I assume the pots on your bass are each an individual pup volume and then a master tone (please correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case you'll have to figure out what to do with the extra pot you'll have left over because you'll be going from three pups to two. At least my understanding of the stacked J pup is that you have control over both of the smaller pups rather than the one big one.

it is set up with a master volume and a blend, concentric bass treble, and tone knob that has seen many better days. The blend and volume pots are dirty and crackle quite a bit when moved. I don’t think the J would be bigger on any side from a MM, but the proper positioning of the pickup could make it to where I’d have a gap in the wood. I’d rather just stick with the pickup style and get an aftermarket P and double J set. It’s a pita to even find that style in an aftermarket pickup. The double j pickup that is stock doesn’t have any adjustment or split ability unless I’m missing something.
 
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Glad hat at east everyone else is as confounded by ground loops as I am...

For some reason, I unplugged everything with the amp still on (but muted) and heard a loud pop - then back to normal silence. Reconnected everything, and remained silent while playing. So weird. Kept it off, just turned it on again and tried once more. Still silent. Gremlins appear gone for the moment...
 
it is set up with a master volume and a blend, concentric bass treble, and tone knob that has seen many better days. The blend and volume pots are dirty and crackle quite a bit when moved. I don’t think the J would be bigger on any side from a MM, but the proper positioning of the pickup could make it to where I’d have a gap in the wood. I’d rather just stick with the pickup style and get an aftermarket P and double J set. It’s a pita to even find that style in an aftermarket pickup. The double j pickup that is stock doesn’t have any adjustment or split ability unless I’m missing something.


Yeah you're not missing anything, I've never handled one personally so I was just guessing. I believe there are ones you can get that allow for the ability to switch though. That's all up to you of course. The stuff you're able to do when you know what you're doing with wiring can get pretty crazy.

I wouldn't worry too much about the proper placing of the pickup unless you really want a specific sound with the MM pickup. If I were to do it I'd just put it in the best place for covering the old cavity and let the sound of the pup be whatever it be. Are you going for a specific sound?
 
@JBOWLES I think the shape and size might be close but there'd be some of the old route showing. If you wanna change up the sound/wiring may be worth a rewind from someone reputed for same or less than a new pup. I dig the look of double J's personally.

You could get wild with wiring too. Have the double J go into a 2 band mm pre, then post pre pup blend with the p and have a master volume for the whole shebang.

yeah i'd love one but no master volume would make it a no go for me.

Yup gain is wet only as well.

Do you use the master vol to help stick out in the mix? I rarely use delay live so my experience is minimal.
 
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@JBOWLES I think the shape and size might be close but there'd be some of the old route showing. If you wanna change up the sound/wiring may be worth a rewind from someone reputed for same or less than a new pup. I dig the look of double J's personally.

You could get wild with wiring too. Have the double J go into a 2 band mm pre, then post pre pup blend with the p and have a master volume for the whole shebang.



Yup gain is wet only as well.

Do you use the master vol to help stick out in the mix? I rarely use delay live so my experience is minimal.

I have 4 holes on the guard so I could do a two volume stack, stacked two band for the P, then a two band for the double j. The last one could just be a passive active switch, run separate volumes(not stacked) or whatever. This makes me want to have the output jack routed out for a Ric-o-sound. Lmao. This could get really interesting!
 
@JBOWLES I think the shape and size might be close but there'd be some of the old route showing. If you wanna change up the sound/wiring may be worth a rewind from someone reputed for same or less than a new pup. I dig the look of double J's personally.

You could get wild with wiring too. Have the double J go into a 2 band mm pre, then post pre pup blend with the p and have a master volume for the whole shebang.



Yup gain is wet only as well.

Do you use the master vol to help stick out in the mix? I rarely use delay live so my experience is minimal.

yeah the trails just get lost, even if the guitar is not playing. i need a delay with a healthy boost. if the volume is only the wet side then it sound uneven.
 
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