Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[lucas303]

I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing

On a separate note, any stand out album recommendations from anyone so far this year? I'm in need of some new listening. Just got into King buffalo's latest album which is a bit tool-esque and also got warning, watching from a distance still on heavy rotation. Welcome any recommendations

Endless Floods "AGE TOTAL"
Herzel "Le Dernier Rempart"
Thou "Hightower"
Ad Nauseam "Imperative Imperceptible Impulse"
Gaia Bleeds "Times of Desperation"
Czarface "Super What"
Chevelle "NIRATIAS"

Those are some of my initial thoughts, and stylistically all over the place.

 

[arbitrary]

not at all doom, but Leon Bridges new album is pure sex:



also, I've been listening to The Armed Ultrapop A LOT

 

[lucas303]

Certainly not a bad thing unless you're drastically overpowering the cab and cranking the hell out of your gain/volume. If you're listening to your setup, you'll hear your speakers start to struggle and woof and fart out before they explode. So there's no problem running an 800 watt amp into a cab rated at only 300 or 400 watts, as long as you're paying attention. It's not much different than having a home stereo receiver capable of delivering 100 watts and hooking it up to a couple of bookshelf speakers only rated to handle 15 watts. It's only a problem if you get reckless with the gain/volume.

I err on the side of overpowering my cabs/speakers. For example, I have 700 watt monoblock power amps for my home stereo speakers. The speakers definitely don't need that much power.

 

[arbitrary]

I err on the side of overpowering my cabs/speakers. For example, I have 700 watt monoblock power amps for my home stereo speakers. The speakers definitely don't need that much power.

I was just talking with someone on how I used to power my berg ht322 with a crest ca9; a 1000watt or so cab with a 2k watt power amp. It sounded mint!

 

[Grahams Groove]

Agreed on both. One of my favorite setups was a Diesel 4x10 + 1x15 juiced with a 2000 watt amp.

 

[JBOWLES]

So I’ve got all the big pieces for the updated board. Still need to wire and patch everything, but the big part is as complete as I can get it.

A and B on the loop will go to the Haunt and MBD. Plumes will go after the clean output so I can blend either with the Plumes. Into the Superego then Tstorm, and underneath to a DI with the out of it to the front of the board and into the amp. The DI is connected to the front as well for any “oh $%*+” moments if my amp or cab were to fail. I keep a tuner and 9v in my gigbag if the board were to fail so I can just run straight in until I can fix any problems there.

Maybe not true doom, but I’d feel confident it can cover quite a bit of ground in about any area and at least keep up with the heavier sides of music life.

 

[Novarocker]

I think it seems like most of us have similar guidelines and recs for amps and cabs.

If weight or size is something that'll be a concern (shape of the cab should be depending on your transportation situation), I'd give a serious look at 6x10s. Most of those, IIRC, are much shallower than typical 4x10s. Getting a deep 4x10 in and out of a back seat is real tough depending on how far the door swings open. That's something I loved about my 6x10. Rolled it up and down stairs, step by step, to and from the car/truck, and tilted it onto the seat, then pushed it into the car. Honestly, I can't recall if I ever lifted it.

Dang, I might have to go look into getting another lol. Anybody else have experience with Ampeg or other 6x10s? Can't for the life of me remember why I sold it. Oh and @El_Charro, ampeg cabs, especially the common ones always went cheap on the used market. Like 1/2 or less their new cost. Hit or miss though, some were real dark sounding.

@arbitrary, never heard of the Armed. Pretty sick, kinda brings me back to my HS punk days that never left. Dress code fits the era from my neck of the woods too lol.

@JBOWLES awesome board! That rockboard patch bay is a great idea.

 

[Flamingo21]

I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing

Well I meant it as a good thing. I thought your "would surprise even me" was the best kind of funny.

 

[kleinenenten]

So I’ve got all the big pieces for the updated board. Still need to wire and patch everything, but the big part is as complete as I can get it.View attachment 4358618 A and B on the loop will go to the Haunt and MBD. Plumes will go after the clean output so I can blend either with the Plumes. Into the Superego then Tstorm, and underneath to a DI with the out of it to the front of the board and into the amp. The DI is connected to the front as well for any “oh $%*+” moments if my amp or cab were to fail. I keep a tuner and 9v in my gigbag if the board were to fail so I can just run straight in until I can fix any problems there. View attachment 4358619
Maybe not true doom, but I’d feel confident it can cover quite a bit of ground in about any area and at least keep up with the heavier sides of music life.

Can you explain the Rockboard to me? I did a quick search, but it only seems to complicate things? Why would you need so many ins/outs? I feel like it would just lead to a cramped mess of numerous cables trying to get to that single point instead of a one pedal after another format like in a normal pedal board. All that said, it seems like I'm missing something. I've thought of wiring an in/out to a custom board for the sake of simplicity, but never numerous ins/outs in a single board.

 

[scabpicker]

not at all doom, but Leon Bridges new album is pure sex:

Hehe, not doom, but still pretty metal, I've been listening to a bunch of the two Clown Core visual albums.
If you remember John Zorn's Naked City, it's kind of like that.




And kind of doom in an inadvertent way, the Chipmunks at 16 speed. I'm kind of amazed at how well some of these tracks work.

 

[Robot.G]

Hehe, not doom, but still pretty metal, I've been listening to a bunch of the two Clown Core visual albums.
If you remember John Zorn's Naked City, it's kind of like that.




And kind of doom in an inadvertent way, the Chipmunks at 16 speed. I'm kind of amazed at how well some of these tracks work.

Chipmunks at 16 speed is awesome!

 

[callofcthulhu]

Hehe, not doom, but still pretty metal, I've been listening to a bunch of the two Clown Core visual albums.
If you remember John Zorn's Naked City, it's kind of like that.




And kind of doom in an inadvertent way, the Chipmunks at 16 speed. I'm kind of amazed at how well some of these tracks work.

Holy poopie.

I was already hip to Clown Core, but this Chipmunks poopie is amazing.

 

[callofcthulhu]

Chipmunks at 16 speed is awesome!

"New Chelsea Wolfe album sounds great"

 

[JBOWLES]

Can you explain the Rockboard to me? I did a quick search, but it only seems to complicate things? Why would you need so many ins/outs? I feel like it would just lead to a cramped mess of numerous cables trying to get to that single point instead of a one pedal after another format like in a normal pedal board. All that said, it seems like I'm missing something. I've thought of wiring an in/out to a custom board for the sake of simplicity, but never numerous ins/outs in a single board.

I only use one of the in/out now, but before I was planning to use a mono in and out, toe for effects loop and one more for the channel selector that was on the head I had previously, GK Fusion S 800. The board itself is just pedals as normal with ins and outs to and from the board on the front.

Ideally I’d get a Mod 3 unit, but this one works for now.

 

[scabpicker]

"New Chelsea Wolfe album sounds great"

Hehee, my wife and I decided that version of "Refugee" sounds like Jeffrey Lee Pierce from the Gun Club singing for Killdozer.

 

[kleinenenten]

Hehee, my wife and I decided that version of "Refugee" sounds like Jeffrey Lee Pierce from the Gun Club singing for Killdozer.

I did not realize Killdozer was a band. I was only aware of the "incident", but the band predates it. I'm intrigued by the description of the band. Here's a link to the incident - simply over the top. I have an odd respect for the man, though I can't say I condone his actions.

Marvin Heemeyer - Wikipedia

 

[xJasonSmithx]

Sometimes the simplest things make such a huge difference. The jazz bass that I picked up recently had some old D’Addario nickel strings. It sounded really good in a thumpy vintage way. I put on some Dunlop Super Bright Nickels and they are incredibly grindy and aggressive. I didn’t touch any settings on my rig and it went from Motown to Jesus Lizard. I won’t be able to try them out with the band until next week but I can’t get over how drastic the change is. The moral of the story is that you might not need the next new pedal or fancy amp. Start small.

 

[kleinenenten]

Sometimes the simplest things make such a huge difference. The jazz bass that I picked up recently had some old D’Addario nickel strings. It sounded really good in a thumpy vintage way. I put on some Dunlop Super Bright Nickels and they are incredibly grindy and aggressive. I didn’t touch any settings on my rig and it went from Motown to Jesus Lizard. I won’t be able to try them out with the band until next week but I can’t get over how drastic the change is. The moral of the story is that you might not need the next new pedal or fancy amp. Start small.

This is my though when I see many people talk about how they use different settings on the amp/pedal/whatever for one bass, and other settings for another, still more for a third, etc. All I can think of is that it's a different flavor. I have all of my amps and pedals set up to sound good for each of my basses - yes, they're optimized for my main player, but they all sound great on all my basses. I have different basses for different tones. If I only wanted a single tone, I'd have a single bass and single amp/pedal/cab/etc combo. But I like different tones, and different basses give me that. Especially since I typically like my flats, but am also enjoying some rounds too. Your talk of different strings makes me think of that.

 

[scabpicker]

I did not realize Killdozer was a band. I was only aware of the "incident", but the band predates it. I'm intrigued by the description of the band. Here's a link to the incident - simply over the top. I have an odd respect for the man, though I can't say I condone his actions.

Marvin Heemeyer - Wikipedia

Yeah, Heemeyer built a mean home made tank. Can't deny that.

Killdozer was pretty amazing, too. I opened for them once back in the dark ages.

 

[kleinenenten]

Yeah, Heemeyer built a mean home made tank. Can't deny that.

Killdozer was pretty amazing, too. I opened for them once back in the dark ages.

That was not what I was expecting, though I am not complaining. It was unexpectedly brilliant, like a stream of consciousness of my own random thoughts when I get on a weird tangent of commonalities between themes of various authors/genres/tropes/whatever. I think I need to track this stuff down. It's like a less serious version of some of Peter Dolving's (of The Haunted) ranting on Forensick. Maybe more punkish? Whatever. I like it!