Pheeeeew... that definitely took me longer than I'd hoped, shaging hell. Made some noob mistakes which took forever to figure out and fix. However: I'm happy with the results.
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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
- Thread starter Korladis
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Thanks for posting this…
I almost didn’t say anything at all even though I was trying to be neutral bc I don’t wanna be perceived as “political” and CERTAINLY not on this Web site…
I think I frequent this thread bc it reminds me that there is still goodness in this world and not everything is either/or binary thinking…
Life is far more complex and nuanced than that and every one has had different life experiences and upbringings that influence them…
It isn’t my place to “judge” anyone and just because people believe differently than myself doesn’t automatically make them “wrong”…
Meanwhile…Ugh…I’m sick of all of it & I wish people would chill the f- out because as bad as things are at the moment it wouldn’t really take much to make things MUCH worse (statement probably applies at the global level as well as the national level)…Yikes…
Meanwhile all I really wanna do is work, workout, play music, and be left alone…
And I’ve never played a Peavy bass either, but isn’t that the bass that’s supposedly borderline indestructible/built like a tank???…
I feel like that particular model kept showing up on this thread when I read thru it a few weeks back:
Toughest, most durable bass?
Thanks! \m/
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Lol-Actually (somewhat sad), but that is how I spend a lot of Friday nights if I were to be honest…
I’m kind of an insomniac anyway and I feel like I never really get enough time to myself during the week, so my Friday evenings tend to turn into kind of a free for all…
Thanks! \m/
You're quite welcome.
I mean, I don't WANT to work, but I don't mind it necessarily. I need things to do and would get bored too quickly otherwise. But other than that, agree 100% with everything else. I'm actually trying to work in half an hour of bass playing each night now. Gotta make it a habit. After jamming with someone a few days ago, I'm learning "Seasons in the Abyss". Pretty simple, but satisfying to actually learn a tune. I can play it no problem, but have to memorize it now, which really just means listening to it over and over while I practice.
In regards to Peavey - yeah, probably. (EDIT: That thread references the T-40, the T-20's big brother. Still, likely as indestructible!) Depending who you ask, they're either terrible or indestructible and amazing as a company. I tend to lean towards the amazing part, but what do I know? Their guitar amps have served me well and I have nothing to complain about.
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Lol…Yeah, that was probably TMI (to put it mildly, so minus the “probably”), but hey, it was honest (a little TOO honest) and it’s already posted so at this point I might as well own my SIN…
S&x, drugs, and Metal are pretty much the holy trinity of fun in my book…
Throw food and sleep into that mix and you know…Its REALLY a shame that I have to work for a living…
Thanks! \m/
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I’ve looked at getting a head or a cab from them based on their prices…
Lol-Yes-Love ‘em or hate ‘em definitely seems to sum up how most people feel about that company…
I have noticed that there are a lot of people on TB that love them…
As for practice-Good for you man!
My current goal is an hour, but some days a full hour doesn’t happen-I think it’s the habit of trying daily that’s more crucial than the duration…
Keep practicing man…It WILL pay off even if it doesn’t feel like it <——lol-At least that’s what I tell myself when I go to practice when I don’t feel like it (like tonight-I really didn’t feel much like playing, but after I started on some Maiden tabs I wasn’t sorry I took time to practice…In fact-I don’t think I’m ever “sorry” I practice even when I don’t have a very good one…
Seasons is a great album in my book…As a side note-I’ve gotta say it was a LONG journey for me before I finally dug Slayer…
Reign In Blood is definitely their best album, but I struggled to like it for a while (it sounded too “cartoonish” /over the top to me at first)…
South Of Heaven was the album that really turned me onto them…
I friggin’ LOVE that opening riff to that album…
It is a VERY short list to find a Metal riff that sounds more evil and ominous than the intro to that song/album (the riff on Cemetery Gates and Am I Evil…maybe???)…
Nowadays my preference is Reign In Blood for my favorite album by them after giving it a lot more spins, but I never would’ve gotten there without South Of Heaven & almost weekly I listen to Reign/South Of Heaven/and Seasons all in a row…
It’s kind of cool to listen to all 3 of those albums in a row bc you can hear how much they experimented and grew and developed which is REALLY saying something considering Reign is largely considered one of the greatest Thrash Metal albums of all time…(That sounds like a “lot” but all three albums together still come in under two hours so it’s almost like listening to a double album when you do it like that even though it’s actually 3 albums over 5 years)…An impressive collection of Metal to say the least…
Still a bit bummed I never got to see them live…
Anyway, you have some GOOD taste in songs you are learning IMO… ;-)
Thanks! \m/
I hate to tell you this, but you should probably edit this post.
I have a T-40 and it is a seriously good bass, and great for doom and overdriven tones. Right up there with a G&L L-2000 for versatility. As long as you look out for the occasional dodgy neck, they will not cause you any problems.
I bet that T-20 will sound good. I really like the pickup in them. I've had two T-40s, a Fury and a Dyna-bass, all solid instruments. I can't even remember how many of their amps I've played thru over the years. I'll stop there before I start looking on Reverb.
Where did you get that purple pick guard? I'm looking for a cool color to add to my Sonic Blue P bass. The only purple pearl pick guard I can find are on Amazon from Chinese sellers.
I'll be honest - Slayer is actually one of my least favorite bands... (And there goes my "metal street cred".) Not that they don't deserve their reputation and all that, I just never got into them. They don't "do it" for me. I'm learning the song because the person I jammed with knows it, and it was fun to jam. I also feel like I could play both bass and rhythm guitar on the track, and since I'm trying to play more bass/guitar in general, it's a good one to start on. While I've listened to most of their discography (because I'm a crazy metalhead completist who WANTS to "get it"), they often leave me cold. If memory serves, Seasons in the Abyss was my favorite album, but South of Heaven was darn good too. I also really like "God Hates Us All", or at least a few of the songs on that album. A buddy of mine knows them better than I do, and it seems that I'm more a Hanneman fan than a Slayer fan, since pretty much all of the songs of theirs I like were penned by him.
But if we're talking Slayer extended family, Exodus is top-notch. Gary Holt is one of my favorite guitarists! Not that I can play any of his stuff, but such an amazing catalog. One day, I'll learn some of their stuff on guitar and bass too.
I think I'll also pick up some old Metallica tab books. Call me old-fashioned, but a lot of the time, I like having the tab books. Keeps me from looking it up online and ending up distracted on TB!
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Lol-No explanation needed on Slayer if you don’t really “dig” them…
Like I said-It took me a L O N G time before getting onboard…
For reference-I’ve been actively listening to Metal since I was 17-I mean I heard plenty of Metal songs and some albums prior to that, but that was the year I really dove head first into it and it became my favorite genre…
I’m now almost 42 (lol-Still Going on 17) and I didn’t really dig Slayer until the last several years (besides let’s be honest here-As cool as that scream is on the intro to Angel of Death it is REALLY over the top-Like “too” over the top which was sorta what I meant by being almost cartoonish)…
I think that’s one of the reasons I love Metallica so much-It’s like right on the precipice of where Metal goes from sounding amazing to sounding too over the top and I like that they explore a lot of different sounds…I would rather bands do that on occasion and stretch themselves outside of their creative comfort zone than just write the same song over and over again…AC/DC is a GREAT band but I’m struggling to think if they’ve ever written something that really ever deviated very far from their “formula”…
While we’re on the subject-I have wondered in the past if Metal bands are kinda like NFL teams-You have your favorites and you have teams that you absolutely CANNOT stand, but there’s not always a rhyme or reason as to why you like some teams and loathe others…
Lol-Speaking of being over the top-I thought Slipknot wasn’t anything special when they first came out and they eventually won me over after I gave them an honest chance and listened to their non-radio songs after some of the hype around them died down some over the years…
Maybe I was more open minded later or maybe I just had different life experiences that made me connect with them more, or maybe I was more in the mood to listen to them later, but I didn’t “get” them or enjoy them for many years…
And along those lines (much like Slayer)-Slipknot fans are pretty obnoxious in my experience and I feel like you could throw a decent amount of Slayer fans into that category…I own a couple of Slayer shirts, but I absolutely refuse to wear them to concerts bc I don’t want some @$$hole yelling “SLAAAAAAYER!!!” at me like 2 inches inches from my face (Seriously-What is UP with that???):
Besides-Music is VERY personal so there aren’t “right” or “wrong” answers…
I’m aware this will probably getting me executed at high noon in some circles for saying this, but for the most part I personally can’t stand Megadeth…
I think Dave is LOADED with talent as a guitar player and a musician and he has written some phenomenal riffs, but the Dude CAN. NOT. SING. IMO…
If Metallica is Coca-Cola I feel like Megadeth is caffeine free fruit flavor infused clear diet soda-I mean-Yeah they are both technically sodas, but one just tastes a heck of a lot better…
And I REALLY wish that weren’t the case on Megadeth-I’m not disputing their place at the table and I get why they are considered part of the Big Four for Thrash, but I can only take his singing for a song or two and after that I just wanna slap him bc I feel like he just mutters and its infuriating to me bc if they had a good lead singer (or even a middle of the road singer) they would be a REALLY great band…
So…That was a LONG way to go for that, but my point is that 1) You should never “need’ to explain why you do or don’t like a band IMO and 2) I think people just connect with certain kinds of music at different points in their life…
…And to your last point about potential songs to learn…I had to concentrate on something really difficult at work today for a few hours and prior to doing so I listened to Whiplash bc it was already stuck in my head from trying to play the tab and the song a couple of times in the last few weeks (doesn’t hurt that they opened with that the first night I saw them at Aftershock)…
Gave both the tab and the actual song another go today-I need to work on the speed on my plucking hand, but OMG that hook riff is SO much fun to play when ya hit just right and overall I don’t think that song is super difficult outside of trying to keep pace-I can’t play the bridge part very well yet, but most of the rest of it is just open E, A, Ab/G#,G…
Was kinda like the time I learned the primary backbone riff to Am I Evil-Not saying I can play either song “well” mind you, but both of the primary riffs in those songs are REALLY fun to play when you hit them just right IMO…
Thanks! \m/
——————————I hate to tell you this, but you should probably edit this post.
Apologies if I offended you (or anyone else for that matter including any Mod)…
I went back on the thread and didn’t see where I could Edit/Delete, but will take it down if I can figure out how to do it…
(Mea Culpa)
Thanks! \m/
@kleinenenten and @El_Charro :
Back in the day, Slayer was a band I instantly "got" on the first listen. At the time, it was annihilation on a musical scale we hadn't seen before. It was still probably 1990 before I really liked them to the point where I was happy as hell if the playback before a show included them, or someone I met knew their riffs. I'm sad I never got to see them live in their glory days.
Let's face it, everything is an acquired taste. At the time, Megadeth was comparatively easy to digest, and Ministry's The Land of Rape and Honey was both heavy as hell and had its dance-able points. <Looks nervously at the exits> I mean, the past is a foreign country - they do things differently there.
Well, after a day or so with the Werkstatt, and a few days with the BeatStep, I'm far more impressed with the former than the latter. Don't get me wrong, both are pretty nice. But even after having to make a trip to get a power supply for the Moog because I bought it used, I'm more annoyed with the Arturia requiring a Windows or Mac app to access some of its features. I have both available in the house and have used them to mess with it, but I do most of my recording, etc. on a Linux workstation. Saving and switching is a pain when I was using it for a MIDI controller before the Moog arrived. It's my fault for going "ok, CV and cheap enough" and not researching further, but I dislike hardware that requires external software to control it. I'll probably research more before I get my next sequencer/CV interface.
The Moog, on the other hand, just makes me want to fool with it constantly and fantasize about what else I'm going to try plugging into it's filter next. Even with the sequencer I barely like, it's a fantastic time sink learning what it can do.
Back in the day, Slayer was a band I instantly "got" on the first listen. At the time, it was annihilation on a musical scale we hadn't seen before. It was still probably 1990 before I really liked them to the point where I was happy as hell if the playback before a show included them, or someone I met knew their riffs. I'm sad I never got to see them live in their glory days.
Let's face it, everything is an acquired taste. At the time, Megadeth was comparatively easy to digest, and Ministry's The Land of Rape and Honey was both heavy as hell and had its dance-able points. <Looks nervously at the exits> I mean, the past is a foreign country - they do things differently there.
Well, after a day or so with the Werkstatt, and a few days with the BeatStep, I'm far more impressed with the former than the latter. Don't get me wrong, both are pretty nice. But even after having to make a trip to get a power supply for the Moog because I bought it used, I'm more annoyed with the Arturia requiring a Windows or Mac app to access some of its features. I have both available in the house and have used them to mess with it, but I do most of my recording, etc. on a Linux workstation. Saving and switching is a pain when I was using it for a MIDI controller before the Moog arrived. It's my fault for going "ok, CV and cheap enough" and not researching further, but I dislike hardware that requires external software to control it. I'll probably research more before I get my next sequencer/CV interface.
The Moog, on the other hand, just makes me want to fool with it constantly and fantasize about what else I'm going to try plugging into it's filter next. Even with the sequencer I barely like, it's a fantastic time sink learning what it can do.
Love flanger! Sounds great, thanks for sharing. Gotta say I love modulation, hell I love effects in general.
Right!?
They have damn good stuff for sure. I think the pedigree (somehow lack thereof) for some is what leads to some of the "hate"
Dude, I feel your pain, and I never even thought about the software just word I've heard...to be honest I prefer using recording workstations and the like as well. Infact one of my next purchase focuses is looking into an L8 livetrak. I prefer hardware synthesis and the like more as well. If you're looking for something with a solid sequencer, I recommend Arturia's analog equipment like the brute series. I have a microbrute, and it's a damn good, albiet slightly simple sequencer.
I'm not offended by your remark at all! In fact I can sort of imagine it although I'm not the same.
The point here is that TalkBass wants to be family friendly, and your remark doesn't fit into that idea. We don't want this thread to get in trouble.
As for editing: you can probably only edit posts for a limited time. I have asked a mod to do it.
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So... now you're seventeen, with twenty-five years of experience.
This is one of those insights for me, that I've never thought of, but as soon as I read it I know it must be true. This must be (part of) how things work.
