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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

As I've been slowly tweaking my dirt and getting it all right to sit in the mix, a thought has crossed my mind - why aren't more Boss pedals cloned? I don't mean the odd clone here and there, I mean frenzied cloning of some of their iconic circuits. Besides the HM-2 (which IS cloned like crazy!), and maybe the Hyper Fuzz, I'm unfamiliar with any of their dirt pedals being cloned often. For a company as well-known, revered, ubiquitous, and long-lasting, I would think more of their stuff would be copied. I know there are other clones of some of their non-dirt pedals as well, but nothing crazy. So why is there such an absurd amount of Muffs, Rats, Fuzz Faces, Super Fuzzes, Tubescreamers, etc., etc., etc., but so few Boss clones? There are plenty of circuits that are cloned ad nauseum, but so few Boss. Educate me.
 
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The lil Erebus is another for whatever reason.

Man, just about every little "gadget" standalone synth has enough of my interest since I got the Werkstatt-01 that I'll read any of their product pages, at least. The Matriarch is going to have to deliver a lot to match up in the fun per dollar of that little synth. So far, it has.

the ability to access presets and minimal menu diving is what really drew my attention to the 37.

Yeah, it just seems really well thought out. If this space rock thing goes on for a bit, I'm probably going to try to find one used.

found a new use for the tascam portastudio, lo-fi tape loops and some grungy tape distortion.

Damn, every time I see one of that series, I regret giving away my old 424. May the girl I gave it to always get good use out of it, and may she never run out of cassettes.

Kindly stop posting synthesisers. This is TalkBass and I'm spending enough on music gear as is :p

Trust me, even as your tormentor, I feel your pain :D

But hey, all of my synths can reach far, far below the frequencies my stringed basses can reach (and yeah, far below what I can hear). This isn't talk "stringed" bass ;P

No matter what, do not venture into the Ambient bass players thread.

Ya know what? I think my whole recent synth excursion may have its roots in a visit to read that thread. I sometimes still think I'm going to build a full modular system.

Maybe? But - in the same camp - Tubescreamers and Muffs?

Well, I remember a time in the past when they weren't making any more Big Muffs, and we didn't know if anyone was gonna do it again. So people had to start creating some of them for themselves if they weren't wanting to track down an old unit and tune it up. That's where that trend got started, IMHO.

Tube Screamers? The old ones were hard to find and therefore expensive. You could mod a new one to the old one's specs, so people started doing that. Eventually someone decided they didn't want to find a new one and monkey with it, just build it from scratch. Repeat enough times, and someone's going to start doing it as a business.

Boss? It's hard to miss you if you never go away. Plus, other than the FZ-2, their later updates usually actually improve the pedal.
 
Finally did it. I have no idea what to do with a treble eq at 2k but the Arkham into the loop return bypasses all that silliness. Sounds great overall and will be great for a backup/small amp.
 

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I don't get what this thread is about, even in the very broad or general sense.

It's like I'm at a party in a giant house, wandering around exploring, likely a bit stoned, and I mistakenly walked into a room with a bunch of strangers doing who-knows-what. I feel confusion with a sense of I-shouldn't-be-here.

I think I'll go back to that Dolly Parton RRHoF room or one of those neck relief/truss rod/how-do?/it's as-mysterious-as-lady-private-parts discussions.

Don't mind me...

You never saw me here.

Sorry.
 
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Modular synths make pedal addiction seem cheap in comparison. I have a smallish eurorack system i built from various kits, still costly. You really need like 5 or 6 modules at bare minimum to make up a functioning synth. Retail those can be $150 to $600+ per. Then a power supply, and a rack or case. Then patch cables. Just a mini system start up is $$$ and until you get more like 12+ modules can it really do something beyond what a classic all-in-one moog/arp/korg synth can do.

My regret is I should have bought a Korg ms-20 ["mini"] patchable, keyboard, all in one unit. $650ish I think.

All that said, I should have forgone synths altogether as I haven't touched one in ages, but I went down the synth hole when I was out of the band scene.
 
I don't get what this thread is about, even in the very broad or general sense.

It's like I'm at a party in a giant house, wandering around exploring, likely a bit stoned, and I mistakenly walked into a room with a bunch of strangers doing who-knows-what. I feel confusion with a sense of I-shouldn't-be-here.

I think I'll go back to that Dolly Parton RRHoF room or one of those neck relief/truss rod/how-do?/it's as-mysterious-as-lady-private-parts discussions.

Don't mind me...

You never saw me here.

Sorry.
We are a fuzzy oasis in a desert of tort.
 
Modular synths make pedal addiction seem cheap in comparison. I have a smallish eurorack system i built from various kits, still costly. You really need like 5 or 6 modules at bare minimum to make up a functioning synth. Retail those can be $150 to $600+ per. Then a power supply, and a rack or case. Then patch cables. Just a mini system start up is $$$ and until you get more like 12+ modules can it really do something beyond what a classic all-in-one moog/arp/korg synth can do.

My regret is I should have bought a Korg ms-20 ["mini"] patchable, keyboard, all in one unit. $650ish I think.

All that said, I should have forgone synths altogether as I haven't touched one in ages, but I went down the synth hole when I was out of the band scene.
Every now and then I think about dipping my toes into that water for ambient stuff, but I'd want the all in one sort of thing. Knowing absolutely nothing about keyboards and synths though keeps me from going any further than pondering. Sometimes I think about learning more about it but that can only lead to spending more money and buying more gear. On the other hand, there are sounds I want that I think I'd need some sort of synth thing to create.
 
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Speaking of doom synths, anyone get down w/ Author & Punisher? His newest album is my favorite of 2022 so far. He builds all of his own controllers for his synths (and some will be available to purchase soon). If you check out different videos, he has different gear.

Here's a newer video where he has lighter gear.


Here's an older video (2011), where he shows his older gear.
 
This thread is just awesome, that's all I know and all I care about.

As I've been slowly tweaking my dirt and getting it all right to sit in the mix, a thought has crossed my mind - why aren't more Boss pedals cloned? I don't mean the odd clone here and there, I mean frenzied cloning of some of their iconic circuits. Besides the HM-2 (which IS cloned like crazy!), and maybe the Hyper Fuzz, I'm unfamiliar with any of their dirt pedals being cloned often. For a company as well-known, revered, ubiquitous, and long-lasting, I would think more of their stuff would be copied. I know there are other clones of some of their non-dirt pedals as well, but nothing crazy. So why is there such an absurd amount of Muffs, Rats, Fuzz Faces, Super Fuzzes, Tubescreamers, etc., etc., etc., but so few Boss clones? There are plenty of circuits that are cloned ad nauseum, but so few Boss. Educate me.

It's a good question. I think a lot has to do with availability at a decent price and that they're done well. IDK though, love my SD-2.

I don't get what this thread is about, even in the very broad or general sense.

It's like I'm at a party in a giant house, wandering around exploring, likely a bit stoned, and I mistakenly walked into a room with a bunch of strangers doing who-knows-what. I feel confusion with a sense of I-shouldn't-be-here.

I think I'll go back to that Dolly Parton RRHoF room or one of those neck relief/truss rod/how-do?/it's as-mysterious-as-lady-private-parts discussions.

Don't mind me...

You never saw me here.

Sorry.

Lol, stick around, hang out, enjoy the oddity it is. Thanks for joining.
 
Okay, if you will (anyone), please forgive me or give me a gentle nudge if I say something that might be construed as trolling, impertinent or some other way out of line within this particular discussion thread.

Thank you.
I'm by no means an OG but in my time here I've never seen any real disputes in this thread. I'm sure it's happened at some point though, this being the internet and all.
 
I'm by no means an OG but in my time here I've never seen any real disputes in this thread. I'm sure it's happened at some point though, this being the internet and all.

Considering 2,919 pages since 2013... I mean, is there a thread historian here?

//To be clear, I'm not volunteering for that. I've got enough sh*t going on in my life.
 

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