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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Was playing along to the iPad last night, and I'll be damned if I can figure out the proper notes to AC/DC songs. Sometimes I'll play a half step down and it will be right, then it's at standard tuning, then it's some weird off-tuning. I doubt that my tin ear helps.
So what you're saying is that there's hope for me too? Mechanically, I like to think I'm a decent player. I can play riffs that others can find somewhat challenging. But ear training - I'm terrible! I was debating learning some AC/DC by ear a while ago just to try it and see if I can improve. Instead I went into my old Metallica books and started practicing away. Which I need to get back to doing consistently again. As usual, life happens!
 
Was playing along to the iPad last night, and I'll be damned if I can figure out the proper notes to AC/DC songs. Sometimes I'll play a half step down and it will be right, then it's at standard tuning, then it's some weird off-tuning. I doubt that my tin ear helps.
Tuners are so cheap and plentiful now we forget they weren’t always common. There are plenty of recordings around where the band is in tune with each other, but not tuned to A440. The speed of the recording may have been dicked with, too. I believe there are software solutions out there so you don’t have to tune to every song, too. Just stick with it.
 
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Tuners are so cheap and plentiful now we forget they weren’t always common. There are plenty of recordings around where the band is in tune with each other, but not tuned to A440. The speed of the recording may have been dicked with, too. I believe there are software solutions out there so you don’t have to tune to every song, too. Just stick with it.

Damn their archaic technology!!

So what you're saying is that there's hope for me too? Mechanically, I like to think I'm a decent player. I can play riffs that others can find somewhat challenging. But ear training - I'm terrible! I was debating learning some AC/DC by ear a while ago just to try it and see if I can improve. Instead I went into my old Metallica books and started practicing away. Which I need to get back to doing consistently again. As usual, life happens!

There is hope!!
 
So what you're saying is that there's hope for me too? Mechanically, I like to think I'm a decent player. I can play riffs that others can find somewhat challenging. But ear training - I'm terrible! I was debating learning some AC/DC by ear a while ago just to try it and see if I can improve. Instead I went into my old Metallica books and started practicing away. Which I need to get back to doing consistently again. As usual, life happens!

Tuners are so cheap and plentiful now we forget they weren’t always common. There are plenty of recordings around where the band is in tune with each other, but not tuned to A440. The speed of the recording may have been dicked with, too. I believe there are software solutions out there so you don’t have to tune to every song, too. Just stick with it.

You're not crazy - there are some tracks where they tuned the guitars down 'a quarter step'. Don't know a comprehensive list of which tracks, but if you're in standard and it sounds like you're 'off' within a half step on either side of whatever notes/chords they're playing, that could be it.
 
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You're not crazy - there are some tracks where they tuned the guitars down 'a quarter step'. Don't know a comprehensive list of which tracks, but if you're in standard and it sounds like you're 'off' within a half step on either side of whatever notes/chords they're playing, that could be it.

High on Fire "The Art of Self-Defense" is a good example. They play the songs in C standard live, but on the album the tuning is somewhere between B and C.
 
The tuning thing is odd, hell I remember in band when we'd all take turns playing to tune our instruments to a huge Peterson strobotuner.

I will say, that band really developed my ear, but what helped me a lot was playing to blues based songs. They all fall into the same structure and keys (or at least scale) and aren't crazy hard to play along with by ear. I'd throw one on, then after learning the song itself just start noodling around to the melody in the right key and scale. I've noticed that kinda going on autopilot for my fingers and listening to the sound of the interval from my note and the notes on the song really helped get a feel for my ear. That and at least for me was fun to do.
 
What can I say - I am/was an English major! Perhaps it's similar to the European "footballer" to refer to a football/soccer player? Whatever the reason, in my mind, it's quite clearly -er over -ie.
Well, because it's Friday, wouldn't a trekker be one who makes a trek? I suppose if they travel to NerdCon they would count. LOL.
 
The tuning thing is odd, hell I remember in band when we'd all take turns playing to tune our instruments to a huge Peterson strobotuner.

I will say, that band really developed my ear, but what helped me a lot was playing to blues based songs. They all fall into the same structure and keys (or at least scale) and aren't crazy hard to play along with by ear. I'd throw one on, then after learning the song itself just start noodling around to the melody in the right key and scale. I've noticed that kinda going on autopilot for my fingers and listening to the sound of the interval from my note and the notes on the song really helped get a feel for my ear. That and at least for me was fun to do.
I jam along to blues-based stuff often. It's a good starting point for a practice session, getting the ear and hands warmed up, then moving on to some more challenging material like The Ramones.
 
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Well, because it's Friday, wouldn't a trekker be one who makes a trek? I suppose if they travel to NerdCon they would count. LOL.
The logic follows. But then, you've also disproven your own term. As we in this room all "doom" to some extent, would we not be "doomers" and not "doomies"?

I enjoy linguistics far more than any sane person should.
 

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