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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Grotto noodling content: as I grow even older (geriatric that I am), I have discovered playing with a pick makes me olde claws hurt less than fingerstyle. Weirdly, I find myself strangling the neck with my left hand when I'm playing fingerstyle as opposed to pick, where it is much more relaxed. Was doing some pretty serious noodling along to Earthless' Sonic Prayer and am only a bit sore in the right wrist area. Take care of your hands, kids.
 
Thanks ! It was a christmas party way back the profile pic. But I should consider wearing the beatels outfit more!

I went for the Akai Unibass, altough I heard that it easily can get issues down the road. But it has a really uniqe sound, almost like a Sega/Snes sound to it. But if I put a gnarly fuzzes into it, maby its cool. I wanted a POG2 since it seem more reliable. And tracks better. If I find the Unibass sound to be super digital, or wierd sounding I will sell it and go for the POG2. Phew

No comment on octave up stuff, BUT I bet that glitchyness would sound awesome with fuzz or even some plain ol distortion. Let us know how it sounds!

Grotto noodling content: as I grow even older (geriatric that I am), I have discovered playing with a pick makes me olde claws hurt less than fingerstyle. Weirdly, I find myself strangling the neck with my left hand when I'm playing fingerstyle as opposed to pick, where it is much more relaxed. Was doing some pretty serious noodling along to Earthless' Sonic Prayer and am only a bit sore in the right wrist area. Take care of your hands, kids.

Yep, its always a challenge.
I find ergonomics of how I'm holding the bass to be almost as important to wrist angle, how hard I dig in, etc. Amusingly all these years of doing highly technical fretless playing (plus our band stuff) has helped left hand technique to the point where I don't really _grip_ the thing but fairly lightly press on it all. For right hand stuff, I've pretty well ingrained keeping my wrist straight. To the point where its hard to sit and play because I have to kick my right shoulder/arm up a bunch to keep the hand/forearm/wrist straight.
As a result of this, tend to keep my bass fairly low.

If I don't do this, my plucking sounds like crap because my index, middle and ring fingers all sound different when I pluck, heh.

That said, I find it a TON easier to use a pick while sitting down or while attempting to do vox.
 
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No comment on octave up stuff, BUT I bet that glitchyness would sound awesome with fuzz or even some plain ol distortion. Let us know how it sounds!



Yep, its always a challenge.
I find ergonomics of how I'm holding the bass to be almost as important to wrist angle, how hard I dig in, etc. Amusingly all these years of doing highly technical fretless playing (plus our band stuff) has helped left hand technique to the point where I don't really _grip_ the thing but fairly lightly press on it all. For right hand stuff, I've pretty well ingrained keeping my wrist straight. To the point where its hard to sit and play because I have to kick my right shoulder/arm up a bunch to keep the hand/forearm/wrist straight.
As a result of this, tend to keep my bass fairly low.

If I don't do this, my plucking sounds like crap because my index, middle and ring fingers all sound different when I pluck, heh.

That said, I find it a TON easier to use a pick while sitting down or while attempting to do vox.
Ah, the old "Billy Sheehan Chicken Wing"!

I play, while standing, with it about mid-ship on my body (maybe a smidge higher), and while sitting, damn near in my armpit. (Being short and hunching over makes the bass play way high.) Using a pick seems to allow more variance in bass level without a big technique adjustment.
 
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Ah, the old "Billy Sheehan Chicken Wing"!

I play, while standing, with it about mid-ship on my body (maybe a smidge higher), and while sitting, damn near in my armpit. (Being short and hunching over makes the bass play way high.) Using a pick seems to allow more variance in bass level without a big technique adjustment.
Mine are down by my waist. Easier to play down there, LOL.
 
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Mines usually up highish, I’ve definitely been called out for having a necktie at times.
 

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I didn't know that about the Clown Core connection, that's cool. I still thought those people were anonymous.

Do you have a link to the Knower clip? They have a rotating cost of muiciisns. I suspect it was Tim Lefavbre based on the sounds he was making... Tim rules.

You can pretty much tell by watching the drummer it's the same dude.

 
I typically have the curve of the bass's upper horn and body just barely cupping my breast. Gotta get some action somehow. A buddy occasionally gives me trouble about how I play somewhat high, but it works for me. I'm typically a fingerstyle player, but I make no adjustments for using a pick. I actually have more flexibility in bass placement with fingerstyle and could go a bit lower or higher if I wanted, but really can't adjust much with a pick. I'm short, and can't reach my hand down too low to pick all the strings! In regards to left hand, I find that my left hand relaxes the better I know the song. When I'm first learning a song, I sometimes have a death grip on the neck. Once I have it down, it's much more fluid and relaxed.
 
Well, thats more action than i've seen in years, heh.

In less good news, I was throwing some SS strings on my new bass and cut em way too short. RIP.
D'oh!! Been there.

Also, was reading the Class D reliability thread over in Amps, and you and AgedHorse were getting DANGEROUSLY close to introducing maths to the discussion. I was skeered.
 
D'oh!! Been there.

Also, was reading the Class D reliability thread over in Amps, and you and AgedHorse were getting DANGEROUSLY close to introducing maths to the discussion. I was skeered.
Yeah, I was trying hard to not do that. lol.

That said, I'm like 90% sure my next amp is prob going to be mesa of some flavor partially because they sound good and partially because he's here putting up with us idiots, heh.
 
Yeah, I was trying hard to not do that. lol.

That said, I'm like 90% sure my next amp is prob going to be mesa of some flavor partially because they sound good and partially because he's here putting up with us idiots, heh.
Well, as a tech service guy for my company, I can really appreciate his efforts in the Amps section. Aged has the patience of a saint.
 
Yeah, I was trying hard to not do that. lol.

That said, I'm like 90% sure my next amp is prob going to be mesa of some flavor partially because they sound good and partially because he's here putting up with us idiots, heh.
Hmm....I think you should build a tube amp. You have the skilz. And, it would be s uper fun follow.
 
Hmm....I think you should build a tube amp. You have the skilz. And, it would be super fun follow.

I've thought about it, but I don't have a ton of time. I have too many other projects as it is, and i don't need too many more un-finished ones. I started designing a Class D power section for use with some filter preamps a couple years ago and didn't get super far in it before I got side-tracked by other stuff. So I could a few 200 watt power modules sitting around at home and a handful of PCB's sketched up but no major progress in actually finalizing a design.

While a toob amp would be a fun project, its not in the cards right now... but maybe someday.

Like, I have another boat I want to build and that's a 400hr project, minimum. The boat I did last summer was like... 150ish hours, and it was a kit. Plus a huge pile half finished audio projects... lol.
 
I've thought about it, but I don't have a ton of time. I have too many other projects as it is, and i don't need too many more un-finished ones. I started designing a Class D power section for use with some filter preamps a couple years ago and didn't get super far in it before I got side-tracked by other stuff. So I could a few 200 watt power modules sitting around at home and a handful of PCB's sketched up but no major progress in actually finalizing a design.

While a toob amp would be a fun project, its not in the cards right now... but maybe someday.

Like, I have another boat I want to build and that's a 400hr project, minimum. The boat I did last summer was like... 150ish hours, and it was a kit. Plus a huge pile half finished audio projects... lol.

I ignored the rest of this and expect it to begin soon.
 
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