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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

The audio sample (I assume that's what it was?) needs permission or access or something to be opened, so I can't listen to it. In regards to the settings, I'm thinking I may just not be a Blower Box fan after all. I distinctly remember trying nearly identical settings, and yes - it jumped out of the mix - but it just sounded almost completely clean. I guess I'll stick with my Volt Thrower clone/s and Bass Mountain, which are currently my go-to Rats. Tremond is an incredibly close #3.

As far as the CMC Elk/Hizumitas clone goes, it's potentially more versatile than the original. CMC has added his typical "shape" control, which is described as being a mids control. So if you like the Hizumitas as a base, this one could be better suited. I seriously think I'll be picking up a few Muffs in the near future, just for variety's sake. I'm really digging the Muff tones lately for all sorts of stuff. I was jamming to In Flames with my Swollen Pickle earlier and quite enjoyed it!

Speaking of jamming to In Flames... Anybody use a bass capo? Is that a thing? I was thinking of getting one since so many songs I want to learn are only a half or whole step off of what I already have basses tuned to. In Flames, Dismember, Amon Amarth - apparently many of the Swedish bands I would learn songs from require different tunings. I could transpose a few notes here and there and not have to set up a whole new bass with different strings, intonation, relief etc. (because I KNOW I would do that eventually since I'm a freak like that...). Is there anything I'm missing with a capo? Never really used one before, so I have no clue what's up, besides just clamping it on and having my open strings being higher pitch than usual.

I've used one a couple times, way back. Infact if you tune down a half step and put the capo on the first fret, you now have a 32" scale bass. Same if you tune down whole and capo 2nd fret, 30" scale bass.
 
Alright, hopefully now that audio works. Never posted a non video or image file before.

Sounds good - just not working for me in a mix! Different strokes and all that. I've been messing with my Bass Mountain and Volt Thrower again, and am - as usual - quite happy with them both as my Rats. They seem thicker than the Blower Box, which is a much leaner and more aggressive tone.

I've used one a couple times, way back. Infact if you tune down a half step and put the capo on the first fret, you now have a 32" scale bass. Same if you tune down whole and capo 2nd fret, 30" scale bass.

Now that's an interesting idea if my son ever decides to try bass... I'm looking more at playing "C standard" as a handful of bands I like tune their 4 strings to that (or a few at D#). But I imagine that down-tuning my 4 strings to that would be a good deal floppier than I'd prefer. And a standard 5 string is only a half step lower than C. Hence, I'd just keep my bass tuned standard, use a capo on the first fret, and voila! - 5 string tuned to "C standard"! Maybe do two capos for C#. I may potentially do similar with my 5 string tuned to D standard, as I've seen a few songs with D# tuning.

In pedal hoarding news, I've somehow managed a few bites on getting rid of some stuff. Don't know what happened, as I've had some of it up locally for a while, but I'm not complaining. Assuming no flakes, I'll have more than covered my CMC Muff splurge, so that's nice. Hoping this trend continues, and I can grab a few more, get an upgraded pre-amp in one of my basses, and maybe even get my guitar amps fixed - all without having to dip into the bank account. That would be pretty nice!
 
The volume is a bit low, but it plays and sounds good. :thumbsup:

Hey, I missed it, what's the new delay?

Thanks, I was learning how to use it and dug the main riff so I hit record to get it down. Didn't think it'd lead to a full piece essentially.

Fernweh, love it. Can boost the volume a little past unity, ability to have a double delay and be able to have one of the lines with a second switchable time. The slower middle bit was where I switched to a different delay time.

On its own, without doing anything fancy it sounds as good if not better than the rubberneck and doesn't muddy up as much either. Especially on bass, seems like the lows drop off the more it repeats.

I don't need tap, but I do miss the "rubberneck" feature. I plan on searching for someone that's game to take a look and see if there's a way the time switch could have the rate of going from one time to another be variable. If you listen you can hear it jump from one to the other. It's not instant. Not the end of the world, but I do use it a surprising amount.
 
Fernweh, love it. Can boost the volume a little past unity, ability to have a double delay and be able to have one of the lines with a second switchable time. The slower middle bit was where I switched to a different delay time.

On its own, without doing anything fancy it sounds as good if not better than the rubberneck and doesn't muddy up as much either. Especially on bass, seems like the lows drop off the more it repeats.

I don't need tap, but I do miss the "rubberneck" feature. I plan on searching for someone that's game to take a look and see if there's a way the time switch could have the rate of going from one time to another be variable. If you listen you can hear it jump from one to the other. It's not instant. Not the end of the world, but I do use it a surprising amount.
I love the Rubberneck. It's got way more features than I'd ever need or use, but it's just a fantastic delay in all regards. Even better with the FS3X footswitch! I'm all for weird DOD stuff.
 
Sounds good - just not working for me in a mix! Different strokes and all that. I've been messing with my Bass Mountain and Volt Thrower again, and am - as usual - quite happy with them both as my Rats. They seem thicker than the Blower Box, which is a much leaner and more aggressive tone.



Now that's an interesting idea if my son ever decides to try bass... I'm looking more at playing "C standard" as a handful of bands I like tune their 4 strings to that (or a few at D#). But I imagine that down-tuning my 4 strings to that would be a good deal floppier than I'd prefer. And a standard 5 string is only a half step lower than C. Hence, I'd just keep my bass tuned standard, use a capo on the first fret, and voila! - 5 string tuned to "C standard"! Maybe do two capos for C#. I may potentially do similar with my 5 string tuned to D standard, as I've seen a few songs with D# tuning.

In pedal hoarding news, I've somehow managed a few bites on getting rid of some stuff. Don't know what happened, as I've had some of it up locally for a while, but I'm not complaining. Assuming no flakes, I'll have more than covered my CMC Muff splurge, so that's nice. Hoping this trend continues, and I can grab a few more, get an upgraded pre-amp in one of my basses, and maybe even get my guitar amps fixed - all without having to dip into the bank account. That would be pretty nice!

Totally agree on the Rats, it is a lean one for sure. I need to try more variants. I've only used a Blower Box, OG, and Life Pedal.

Good idea on the capo for the stuff in C. I've been meaning to set up one of mine in C standard and one either D or Eb. I like the idea of doing D and using a capo for Eb, does make things easier
 
Same, don't think I'll get rid of it, just too good to do that. What's the footswitch help with? I've never looked into it.

Look at page 9 of the manual. Here's the download link. It gives a single footswitch each for the Rubbernecking, Modulation On/Off, and Tap Tempo/Regen features. Been a long while since I've messed with it, but I definitely remember it made it easier for me to use. I ended up getting a third-party one because it was smaller and cheaper than I could find a used FS3X (and it has cool Star Wars graphics...). Apparently it's a simple thing to build whatever kind of footswitch it is. I wouldn't know, as I'm terrible with a soldering iron and can't remember if it's latching or whatever, but it's all in the manual.

Totally agree on the Rats, it is a lean one for sure. I need to try more variants. I've only used a Blower Box, OG, and Life Pedal.

Good idea on the capo for the stuff in C. I've been meaning to set up one of mine in C standard and one either D or Eb. I like the idea of doing D and using a capo for Eb, does make things easier

I've tried plenty of Rats - Cat Tail, mini Chinese clone, Volt Thrower, Blower Box (& Deluxe), Iron Pig, Tremond, and Bass Mountain. Plenty of variety in tones there, and I lean towards the thicker end of the spectrum. But I've also got to find the right balance of thick and able to cut just enough in the mix.

I've got one 5 string in standard, and one dropped a step. I know Tankard does Eb tuning, so that would be handy on the drop tuned one. I could go from Kreator and Sodom to Tankard with a quick capo! Have a bass dedicated to all my German thrash needs!
 
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I have most of my basses set up in C standard. The only PITA is having to set them up with .065-.130 or .135 strings because .045-.105 just flop around and make noise and don't keep tune. That pretty much locks you in to a nut replacement if you ever want to go back to standard-ish tuning. It's not a HUGE deal but it is a little bit of a headache. Thankfully, I had the foresight to leave myself one in standard for normal (non-doomy) noodling.
 
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I have most of my basses set up in C standard. The only PITA is having to set them up with .065-.130 or .135 strings because .045-.105 just flop around and make noise and don't keep tune. That pretty much locks you in to a nut replacement if you ever want to go back to standard-ish tuning. It's not a HUGE deal but it is a little bit of a headache. Thankfully, I had the foresight to leave myself one in standard for normal (non-doomy) noodling.

I used 110s and 115s for C# standard, we would also go to drop B from there for some songs. Having said that, we tuned down for tone/effect and I wanted that slightly floppy sound. It was good for slower and mid tempo stuff but probably too loose for any faster metal.
 
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I used 110s and 115s for C# standard, we would also go to drop B from there for some songs. Having said that, we tuned down for tone/effect and I wanted that slightly floppy sound. It was good for slower and mid tempo stuff but probably too loose for any faster metal.

My main bass (avatar) is so mushy it needs that extra tension. Now and then I'll run a Tbird but for the most part, it's that Ripper copy.
 
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Gig coming up this Friday in Richmond at Another Round. I'm pretty stoked but man, I wish there were some more bands out this way in the stonery/doomy style as opposed to the chug scream chug thing. We always end up the odd man out at shows.

Side note: after a LONG wait, this thing finally came yesterday. It has endless combinations of filth ranging from a little Geezer woody mud to full on brown note gut-wrenching obscenity.

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I'm still figuring this genre out, I don't even know if I'm on the right track!

But I think my tastes have been shifting this way. Still like death metal but bands like Wo Fat, Clutch, Electric Wizard, Kyuss, The Sword, Green Lung, Witchfinder....I dunno, probably not all in the genre. Anyway, they make me want to pick up my bass more than death metal these days.
 
I'm still figuring this genre out, I don't even know if I'm on the right track!

But I think my tastes have been shifting this way. Still like death metal but bands like Wo Fat, Clutch, Electric Wizard, Kyuss, The Sword, Green Lung, Witchfinder....I dunno, probably not all in the genre. Anyway, they make me want to pick up my bass more than death metal these days.


those are basically the stoner starter pack. lots more to explore when you're ready. unfortunately a lot can be kind just terrible copies of each other but there are enough original sounding bands if you're willing to stretch your tastes.
 
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Gig coming up this Friday in Richmond at Another Round. I'm pretty stoked but man, I wish there were some more bands out this way in the stonery/doomy style as opposed to the chug scream chug thing. We always end up the odd man out at shows.

Side note: after a LONG wait, this thing finally came yesterday. It has endless combinations of filth ranging from a little Geezer woody mud to full on brown note gut-wrenching obscenity.

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I have most of my basses set up in C standard. The only PITA is having to set them up with .065-.130 or .135 strings because .045-.105 just flop around and make noise and don't keep tune. That pretty much locks you in to a nut replacement if you ever want to go back to standard-ish tuning. It's not a HUGE deal but it is a little bit of a headache. Thankfully, I had the foresight to leave myself one in standard for normal (non-doomy) noodling.

Yeah, I'm trying to avoid that. The capo seems an interesting option. I'll have to check that out, though it may be a bit. Life (aka foundation leaking from rain) intruded this morning. The next few days I will likely be taking my basement apart, hopefully getting it all fixed up, and putting the basement back together. Thankfully, this didn't affect my musical equipment, and in the meantime while I'm just waiting for people to do the next step, I can hopefully jam on some bass.

Side note: after a LONG wait, this thing finally came yesterday. It has endless combinations of filth ranging from a little Geezer woody mud to full on brown note gut-wrenching obscenity.

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For someone who already likes to tweak things as is, that seems like a black hole of options. I will do my best to stay away from that if I ever want to actually play bass again...