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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

I don’t post on here too much so I feel a little bad about spamming my stuff, but my deathdoom bands debut album is coming out tomorrow and I’m pretty proud of it!


I like it! It's got a strange, haunting feeling throughout most of the song, until the end, when it seems the "haunt" is over and the creature/spirit/whatever is actively attacking the listener.
 
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Both may be better than what I'm currently using, but at the same time, most of what I'm currently using is ancient technology as far as audio technology goes. I'd have to upgrade a LOT of stuff. My DI/Cabsim is ~30 years old! It would cost far more than just buying Reaper for me to really upgrade much, I would think. And I don't often have the time like I do right now to actually record stuff, so that monetary investment has even fewer returns. But if I ever DO get big into recording stuff, I have heard good things about Reaper. And regarding the drums - I know absolutely nothing about MIDI. Even hearing "MIDI-mapping", which sounds like it must be fairly basic, is a completely foreign concept. For now, I'm gonna stick with my current setup.
You can free trial Reaper indefinitely. MIDI mapping sounds more intimidating than it is, it's grid with notes or triggers for the drums setup in whatever BPM or time signature you want and you mark where you want the notes or drum samples to play. Happy to show you over zoom if you ever wanted to learn it, its super easy.
 
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You can free trial Reaper indefinitely. MIDI mapping sounds more intimidating than it is, it's grid with notes or triggers for the drums setup in whatever BPM or time signature you want and you mark where you want the notes or drum samples to play. Happy to show you over zoom if you ever wanted to learn it, its super easy.
What I saw said you had to buy Reaper. Odd. If I ever get to drums etc., I may take you up on that offer! That's a whole new world to me. Thank you.
 
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Random question time - any of you ever have to label your pedals? I have a few pedals from various builders with blank enclosures, and have used painter's tape to make a "key" of sorts for them because I always forget what the knobs do whenever I need to adjust things... How could I mark on the enclosures themselves? They're already painted, or else I might have stamped them. Does paint pen work?
 
I've spent a LOT of time this past week going over various tones on my rigs and paring down my pedal collection. Don't worry - I've already got my eye on another item(s) at a local store... I've also debated getting tuner pedals for my secondary bass and guitar boards, and now that I've "simplified" my boards down to only dirt, utility pedals, and a single "fun" pedal for each board, I have some room. Are there any decent but still affordable mini pedal tuners out there? I don't need anything super fancy, basically just the functions of the TU-3 pedals that I have been using, but smaller. And NOT the TU-3s - I don't get the design of that. I don't know a single person who wants a shorter pedal when they want smaller - they want skinnier!

To line it out, the tuner needs to do the following:
Mute my signal when being used
Be "chromatic" - I don't want one of those that only does Standard and/or Drop D etc.
Tune accurately to a Low A on my 5 strings
Be "mini" sized
Be affordable (used is fine!)
 
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I've spent a LOT of time this past week going over various tones on my rigs and paring down my pedal collection. Don't worry - I've already got my eye on another item(s) at a local store... I've also debated getting tuner pedals for my secondary bass and guitar boards, and now that I've "simplified" my boards down to only dirt, utility pedals, and a single "fun" pedal for each board, I have some room. Are there any decent but still affordable mini pedal tuners out there? I don't need anything super fancy, basically just the functions of the TU-3 pedals that I have been using, but smaller. And NOT the TU-3s - I don't get the design of that. I don't know a single person who wants a shorter pedal when they want smaller - they want skinnier!

To line it out, the tuner needs to do the following:
Mute my signal when being used
Be "chromatic" - I don't want one of those that only does Standard and/or Drop D etc.
Tune accurately to a Low A on my 5 strings
Be "mini" sized
Be affordable (used is fine!)

I'm trying to recall better, but the ibanez mini tuner. I think big mini or something is the name, was solid for bass, though I didn't try down below D...
 
Well, serendipity strikes! Not too long ago we were talking about the DigiTech CabDryVR, and I said I'd keep an eye out for one. I've also been trying to off-load gear locally, and had had decent success, but at this point nothing else was selling and I was tired of the flakiness. So I decided to trade the small amount of remaining stuff in to a local store where they had a guitar I was interested in. Traded it in, got a decent amount more than I was expecting, and as they were valuing my gear, I took a look around. Not only did they have the guitar I wanted, but it had recently been reduced in price and had upgraded electronics (which I was unaware of). It was being sold for over $100 cheaper than stock models in far worse shape. The pedal case ALSO had a vintage MIT HM-2 in pretty good shape for lower than the going rate AND the aforementioned CabDryVR. I walked out with all 3 of them for ~$50 - which is only slightly more than I had planned on spending just for the guitar!

I came home and quickly tried out the CabDryVR before dinner - digging it so far. The tones are certainly different and usable, and I can see it getting used as a quick ampless rig in the future. May have to see if I can find another for cheap so I can have a bass and guitar one. And I need to find the manual online! Going to try and give it a more thorough run-through tomorrow.

In short, I'm not sure what I did to deserve such luck, but I'm glad I did it, and I hope you're all having as great a day as I am!

EDIT: I'm currently reading the CabDryVR manual, and it CAN send both a single signal from Input A to both Output A and Output B - you just can't have anything plugged in to Input B. So I CAN use this like I do my old DOD Greybox Cabinet Emulators, but with typical instrument cables instead of XLR. All I have to do is use Input/Output A to select the cab I want and send that to the PA/Interface, and run Output B straight to my amp like normal (using the "Dry" setting so it doesn't get processed). I can even put this in the FX loop like I currently do with the old DOD. It is mentioned that there may be a slight bit of latency between the two sources if used this way. I can also use this to emulate two different cabs from the same signal - as long as only Input A is used I can select different settings for Outputs A/B and mix and match a 410 and 115 or whatever else I may want. Or just have two of the same cab with different resonances. @scabpicker - I believe you were the one who told me about this pedal in the first place - thought this bit of news may interest you. And thanks for the heads up! I'm excited to dig into this thing tomorrow.
 
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@scabpicker - I believe you were the one who told me about this pedal in the first place - thought this bit of news may interest you. And thanks for the heads up! I'm excited to dig into this thing tomorrow.


Bwahahaha, I'm glad you got one for cheap, and good catch on reading the manual and figuring out it would pass signal from input A to output A and B. I really thought I had tried that, but maybe I was being scatterbrained and tried input B. Heheheh, now I'll get three tracks out of one signal when I split the signal at the tuner and am using the PF-20,

Glad you like how it sounds. Belatedly, I forgot to mention the one thing this pedal doesn't have that I really wish it had: clip lights for each channel. I've had a few times where the clip light was going off pretty much constantly and I had to use trial and error to figure out which channel I needed to adjust.

I've got no advice on tuner pedals, I have several TU-3s. They don't die, so I keep using them. My old singer liked his Polytune3 on guitar, though.
 
Bwahahaha, I'm glad you got one for cheap, and good catch on reading the manual and figuring out it would pass signal from input A to output A and B. I really thought I had tried that, but maybe I was being scatterbrained and tried input B. Heheheh, now I'll get three tracks out of one signal when I split the signal at the tuner and am using the PF-20,

Glad you like how it sounds. Belatedly, I forgot to mention the one thing this pedal doesn't have that I really wish it had: clip lights for each channel. I've had a few times where the clip light was going off pretty much constantly and I had to use trial and error to figure out which channel I needed to adjust.

I've got no advice on tuner pedals, I have several TU-3s. They don't die, so I keep using them. My old singer liked his Polytune3 on guitar, though.
Thankfully, I don't get THAT loud when I record, so I'm not too worried about the clipping issue. The wife and child may not like that high volume so much... But yes, I just tested it out with my new (guitar) gear and I have sound through my amp and the PA system simultaneously. I even got the simulated cab to sound pretty much identical to my normal cab. It's awesome!

In reference to the tuner, I have the exact same "problem". I have two TU-3s on my "big" boards, and there's space for them. I don't expect them to ever die, and if they did, I'd probably get another because they're readily available workhorses. But now I'm trying to trim down and get to basics on all of my boards, so I was looking for a small tuner to squeeze on my "small" boards. Even more important that it's small since now I'll likely end up putting CabDryVRs on those boards too. I've attached a pic of my small guitar board for reference. You can see, I'll just barely be able to squeeze a mini in between the Bi-FET and the Milk Box. Of course, I could always run the CabDryVR out of the Power Amp out like I currently do with my old CabSim. But this would be tidier and not require another power supply or messing with the back of my amp which is inconvenient, so I'm all for that. And if I really NEED to put the envelope filter back on, I know I CAN put the CabDryVR in that position. I'm currently re-working my small bass board to make it friendlier for stomping, i.e. putting my most frequent stomps on the front row, otherwise there'd be a pic of that board. I'll keep looking.
 

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Well, I tried out that new CabDryVR on some recordings today, just to mess with it. Did a short part of one of the songs I shared the other day. I'd say it's a definite improvement in clarity and tone! Who would have thought that ~30 years later recording technology would improve? Definitely going to have to get another now! Thanks for the heads up, @scabpicker !

Here are the two recordings for reference:
Original - using my old DOD Grey Box CabSim
New - using the Digitech CabDryVR

I used Cab 6 for both guitar and bass, which is a "Smooth Custom" on guitar (I think based on a Peavey 5150 cab or similar) and Vintage Fridge on bass (this one's obvious!). For "Size" (resonance/treble response control) on guitar I was around 1:30, and on bass I was on 10:30. Pro tip when using this thing - make sure you have it on the right instrument selection! I spent a few minutes wondering my bass sounded so fizzy and terrible before I realized that I was using the guitar cabs and had forgotten to flip the switch... Thankfully the actual bass ones sound much better!
 
Well, I tried out that new CabDryVR on some recordings today, just to mess with it. Did a short part of one of the songs I shared the other day. I'd say it's a definite improvement in clarity and tone! Who would have thought that ~30 years later recording technology would improve? Definitely going to have to get another now! Thanks for the heads up, @scabpicker !

Here are the two recordings for reference:
Original - using my old DOD Grey Box CabSim
New - using the Digitech CabDryVR

I used Cab 6 for both guitar and bass, which is a "Smooth Custom" on guitar (I think based on a Peavey 5150 cab or similar) and Vintage Fridge on bass (this one's obvious!). For "Size" (resonance/treble response control) on guitar I was around 1:30, and on bass I was on 10:30. Pro tip when using this thing - make sure you have it on the right instrument selection! I spent a few minutes wondering my bass sounded so fizzy and terrible before I realized that I was using the guitar cabs and had forgotten to flip the switch... Thankfully the actual bass ones sound much better!
Also forgot to note - the signal chain was ever so slightly different this time too. Bass was identical (Swollen Pickle), but the guitar was changed from a Swollen Pickle to the CMC Civil War Muff.

And regarding the clipping @scabpicker mentioned a few posts ago, it definitely clips easier on bass than guitar, but it wasn't a big deal to figure that out. I'd recommend another pedal or other solution if you really NEED to get loud while recording.
 
Yo, it's good to be back! There's so much great stuff that's been going on here. I've been out for months with a band implosion, riding herd on 10 RNC parties, executing H-D's Homecoming, and then getting COVID. Quite the summer so far.

I bought myself an Idiotbox Cool Buzz Bass Fuzz for surviving the RNC insanity. My first actual bass fuzz. Pretty cool. I whipped out this Jeff Spicoli homage on the 8-track the day my COVID fever broke. Rock on!
 
Yo, it's good to be back! There's so much great stuff that's been going on here. I've been out for months with a band implosion, riding herd on 10 RNC parties, executing H-D's Homecoming, and then getting COVID. Quite the summer so far.

I bought myself an Idiotbox Cool Buzz Bass Fuzz for surviving the RNC insanity. My first actual bass fuzz. Pretty cool. I whipped out this Jeff Spicoli homage on the 8-track the day my COVID fever broke. Rock on!

I really like that bass tone. Not my usual style, but I dug it, and it works beautifully in the mix. Sounds like a fun time put to tape, if that makes sense. And fun is what's important when jamming. I need to find some people and jam again - it's been too long!
 
Yo, it's good to be back! There's so much great stuff that's been going on here. I've been out for months with a band implosion, riding herd on 10 RNC parties, executing H-D's Homecoming, and then getting COVID. Quite the summer so far.

I bought myself an Idiotbox Cool Buzz Bass Fuzz for surviving the RNC insanity. My first actual bass fuzz. Pretty cool. I whipped out this Jeff Spicoli homage on the 8-track the day my COVID fever broke. Rock on!


I ordered a No Moon during the Idiotbox sale and am (im)patiently awaiting its completion.