I know you guys have already moved on and what not but I just caught up soooooo......
Wow, I just read that volume thread and just...holy sh*tsnacks, what a load. I can't believe S/D got called out like that. When did "rock"3 musicians become such pansies? I've said it before, as much as I like stoner metal, the main reason I frequent this thread is because you guys are on the same page when it comes to amplifiers and such (and also it's just really damn entertaining in here), so in a way it's even more frustrating because I can't say these people don't understand the genre in that volume discussion. I'm more in the acid rock vein of things, but I still want to be as loud as all get out and have stacks of amps. Like, isn't that what rocks about? When did it become about being polite and making sure everyone is okay with how loud you are? That's like the exact OPPOSITE of rock and roll. I get that you need to play to the venue, so blowing out a dinner restaurant might not be cool, but in a proper concert venue, where people have come to see rock or metal, why would you not? I'm not here for people to have conversations while I play in the background, I'm not here to be polite, I'm here to play loud, balls out rock. Like if I go to see Wolfmother tomorrow and I'm not blasted backwards by them I'll be bummed. And it's not just loud for the sake of being loud (although, to be honest, there is just something about being loud...). I want the music to be an experience, I want it to blur your vision and kick you in the chest, while still sounding balanced and high quality. Isn't that what every major development in amplification has been about for like the last 50 years of music? It's just frustrating when people are like "you're too loud for rock music". When did rock become so neutered?
/rant