• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

I will say I think I'm ready to go back to a pedal board. I can't find dirt I like in just a preamp so if the rest of the rack goes I'll flip the Ashly also. Been following this thread as a cheap replacement. At least until I can swallow the idea of a FEA DECL.
Cheese and Rice man... Just found the instructions for the ashly on their website. That unit must have been around a while, the forking manual was laid down with a typewriter.
Yeah I have to admit that helped sell me on it. When it popped up in the classifieds I checked Ovnilab and was iffy. The typewriter manual screamed old radio.
 
  • Like
Reactions: kzr750r1
Yeah that's another BIG bonus to going back to a pedal compressor. Can put it before dirt as opposed to after like I've got it now.
Now I'm running Bass>SWR IOD w/Ashly in the effects loop > poweramp>fEARful.
Sounds great, I've just begun hating my IOD.
Such a killer preamp gimped by a stupid resistive load inside. Could be awesome with something like a Weber Mass instead.
 
I was under the impression dirt pedals negate the compressor effect since distortion already has compression inherently?
Really depends on usage.
My preference with overdrive is to have my gain set just barely distorting at a medium touch so I can lighten up and clean it up. Same with hitting harder for more filth.
With the compressor in front of the overdrive you can leave it off and use dynamic playing to get real expressive, or cut it on and do something faster and have less concern for inconsistent tone/sound.
Compressed then distorted sounds rather synthetic to me. Some folks hate that. Me? I think it's great for staccato rhythms. More for metal riffs than bluesy.
 
I've been practicing our songs with both. Like using fingers and have a fairly decent three finger attack. But this is hardcore and I can't drop a note without hearing it so I keep picking.
What kills me is the difference in volume between the two. Fingers need to go up... Pick need to go down. No time for any fiddling during a live set. Plus the sound guy would be going nuts with me dicking around.
I practice both just for versatility, but I definitely prefer fingers. Picks just make most things too bright for me. Picks are not my thing, but I keep up in case I ever need to pick. Doubtful in my band. I've heard an EHX Steel Leather can add pick-like dynamics to fingerstyle. Never tried one.
 
I played primarily finger style for the first 11 or so years I played bass. Then around 4 or 5 years ago I was working a job at an ice cream company that was just messing up my hands constantly, it hurt too much to play finger style so I would use a pick a practice, then I realized I liked the sound I was getting a lot more, especially with the more distortion I used. Now I only play with a pick and occasionally mess around finger style at home.
 
I played primarily finger style for the first 11 or so years I played bass. Then around 4 or 5 years ago I was working a job at an ice cream company that was just messing up my hands constantly, it hurt too much to play finger style so I would use a pick a practice, then I realized I liked the sound I was getting a lot more, especially with the more distortion I used. Now I only play with a pick and occasionally mess around finger style at home.
I totally forgot about the winters working in the crab restaurant when the skin on my fingers would peel constantly and I had to tape them up and use a pick.
 
I will say I think I'm ready to go back to a pedal board. I can't find dirt I like in just a preamp so if the rest of the rack goes I'll flip the Ashly also. Been following this thread as a cheap replacement. At least until I can swallow the idea of a FEA DECL.

Yeah I have to admit that helped sell me on it. When it popped up in the classifieds I checked Ovnilab and was iffy. The typewriter manual screamed old radio.
I've been thinking of getting the Carl Martin opto compressor. Jury is still out to whether I get a comp at all. Still messing around with different basses at the moment. After trying the ric tonight at practice might try a p. If I'm still havering probs after that I will be getting a comp. always a issue clean or dirty bass with me. Figures that I get my rig right in one band then that band falls apart.
 
Ok, quick catch up.

Ran the Mario Lemieux Foundation 6.6K this weekend, that was pretty fun.

I definitely prefer passive basses, but one of the best tones I've had was my ATK700 with the Bluebeard into an SVT-CL.

Video games, bought Shadow of Mordor this weekend. Game is so awesome. I'm nerding out hard over the story. Lots of focus on Sauron.

Guitar player and I are still surprised that Boogerman never continued.


This game came out when I was 9 and I still have vivid memories of sitting on the floor of my friend's house playing it on his Sega.
 
I definitely prefer passive basses, but one of the best tones I've had was my ATK700 with the Bluebeard into an SVT-CL.
I'd still consider the 700 passive but with an active EQ/Pre. Since picking up mine it's been top dog. Just have to remember to unplug when not playing.
Whats been fun is using the BDPG for added low end crush before dirt. I've been really pleased with the board lately. Going to go direct to the PA next practice and see how it sounds. Lugging gear for 2 hour practice is not worth it.
 
I played primarily finger style for the first 11 or so years I played bass. Then around 4 or 5 years ago I was working a job at an ice cream company that was just messing up my hands constantly, it hurt too much to play finger style so I would use a pick a practice, then I realized I liked the sound I was getting a lot more, especially with the more distortion I used. Now I only play with a pick and occasionally mess around finger style at home.

I've primarily played fingerstyle; I mostly only paid attention to Cliff & Geezer while learning 20+ year ago. I got a four-track recorder (hard drives? hah back then we had 3.5" floppies. Get off my lawn!) and I started writing songs before I had a regular six-string guitar. I started using a pick to play distorted power chords to emulate a rhythm guitar part. I'd lay two of those tracks down along with a clean fingerstlye bass part. I had so much fun doing it that way that I recorded a whole 9 song cassette "album" like that. Recently I've been doing this two-man band thing so again I'm doing power chords with a pick. It kind of feels like coming around full circle.

I was under the impression dirt pedals negate the compressor effect since distortion already has compression inherently?
Really depends on usage.
My preference with overdrive is to have my gain set just barely distorting at a medium touch so I can lighten up and clean it up. Same with hitting harder for more filth.
With the compressor in front of the overdrive you can leave it off and use dynamic playing to get real expressive, or cut it on and do something faster and have less concern for inconsistent tone/sound.
Compressed then distorted sounds rather synthetic to me. Some folks hate that. Me? I think it's great for staccato rhythms. More for metal riffs than bluesy.

My previous band was a classic / traditional metal type band, I mostly played fingerstyle root note stuff, direct into the amp, no dirt. After a while I came to admit to myself that I really wasn't a good enough bassist to sound really good and keep a consistent volume level that way. I had a fulltone bassdrive lying around that I'd bought used from a co-worker. I found a modest amount of overdrive really helped keep a consistent level while still retaining the ability to clean up by playing lightly. I enjoyed that edge of dirt too. I've only been getting dirtier ever since...