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Stoner Metal/ Stoner rock

On top of that I think QOTSA have had more sucess with each single they've released and more media attention regarding their activities and new releases.

I for one am looking forward to the next album which is going to have guest; Shirley Manson (Garbage), Brody (Distilers), Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top).

Sucks about Nick though.
 
As a tried and true doom fan I've heard a lot of the so called stoner metal genre (I don't really agree with that label because much of it sounds less "stoned" to me than most other forms of music). Some I really like, some I don't. Was less than impressed by Isis when I first heard them, but I'm really into the newest Mastadon release (my drummer is a huge Mastadon fan).

I'll give a another heads up to Cathedral, "Forest of Equilibrium" and "Ethereal Mirror" are my two favorits from that band. If you like slow, atmospheric metal you should check out any of the early work by the famous Peaceville 3: Paradise Lost, Anathema and My Dying Bride. Its more a blend of doom and death but still incredible. More in the "stoner" vein are Spirit Caravan (founded by ex St. Vitus frontmand Wino), whom I've seen live several times and really liked.

I also recently discovered a US band called Agalloch that has a great mix of slower doom, atmospheric acoustic stuff and faster, black metal influenced material. Its kind of like a blend of early Opeth, Dimmu and Anathema in one. Worth a listen.

BassMicroSynth said:
The album "Dopespoker" by Sleep is soul-crushingly heavy! Matt Pike from High on Fire was in the band. Sabbath x 1000 = Sleep.

I saw these guys at a show in Baltimore a couple months back...I never knew a 6 minute feedback solo could be so melodic and captivating. It was like having dental surgery whilst under the care of a really talented anethesiologist. You know its supposed to hurt and that your ears will be bleeding in the morning, but you just don't give a damn because those monkeys on the wall are so darned COOL!
 
http://www.doom-metal.com/
http://www.stonerrock.com/


Two really good websites. Especially in explaining these genres. Doom Metal.com especially, it really breaks it down.

Doom Metal.com's FAQs said:
Sludge Doom
Somewhat similar to the aforementioned ultra heavy versions of Stoner/Doom. We adapted the use of this term due to its use by fans and bands. A lot of different bands seem to fall under this catagory that at times have little to do anymore with the sound other Doom bands create. Generally very raw sounding music with gut-wrenchingly heavy riffs and hardcore-ish vocals. A lot of these bands have a sort of boozy or spaced out feeling to them and most of them (but not all) are strongly influenced by Black Sabbath.
Examples: Eyehategod, Grief, Sloth, Crowbar.

Yeah, I think Crowbar is quite kick arse. Eyehategod is too feedback heavy, or at least 'Confederacy of Ruined, my only true experience with them. Really cool riffs, but the singer and guitar feedback make them unlistenable for the most part.
 
How to be Doom Metal Incarnate.

1. Remember: Life is too short to experience all that is good.
2. Remember: Life is too long to to enjoy living.
3. Every Day Is A Funeral.
4. Do not wear anything but flat black clothes and combat boots.
5. Do not smile.
6. Do not laugh.
7. No matter what anyone says, you are not just listening to slow Death Metal.
8. No, doom metal is not death metal with a violin.
9. No matter what anyone says, that vocalist is not the Cookie Monster.
10. I said "No laughing!!!"
11. No matter what anyone says, you're not a Goth.
12. While a black teddy bear with a broken heart, hanging from a noose on your windshield may very well symbolize your tortured inner nature, it's not very metal.
13. It is acceptable to listen to non-doomy music, only if you play it at 1/4 of its normal tempo.
14. You may complain about an album's production unless it is a Thergothon release.
15. You will own Thergothon's 'Stream From The Heavens', but never listen to it because of the bad sound quality.
16. Spend years looking for that extreemly rare limited to 500 copies vinyl only release that you must own, just to listen to it twice upon getting it.
17. You must never admit to liking a "fast part" on a doom CD, unless it is Disembowelment.
18. Watch incomperihecable cult movies with no plot, storyline or anything remotely interesting happening, just because "it's doomy!".
19. You can make fun of Nazis unless the said Nazi is ****ed up Mad Max. Then you can overlook his beliefs because his "music was good".
20. Your favorite bands' imagery must contain one of the following things: Ruins, spirits in agony, a cemetary sculpture of an angel, or a pretty painting of heaven...
21. But you're not a Goth!
22. As a Doomster, you're too apathetic to engage in silly music genre debates.
23. Unless someone calls you Gothic, then it's on.
24. Always let your goat listen first to a new cd, so she may consider if it's good or bad for you.
25. Kitty cats are not appropriate pets unless they're black, and often depressed.
26. You must appreciate all releases from a Big Three band as manna from heaven, even if said band begins playing traditional polka; whereupon you must delude yourself into thinking that polka is suddenly dark, emotional and "...really doomier than Serenades, when you think about it."
27. Consider yourself openminded about music.
28. Consider all other metal narrow-minded, especially "True Norwegian Black Metal!"
29. Ignore the contradiction of the above two rules.
30. If you're a traditional doom fan, you must complain endlessly about My Dying Bride, and call all the non-trad fans "Gothic Fags." Also complain about Droning doom because it's not music.
31. If you're a Doom/Death fan, you must complain endlessly about Droning Doom because it's even slower and more boring than what you listen to. Also complain about trad-doom because half the vocalists sound like they've been castrated.
32. If you're a fan of Droning Doom, you're probably too busy zoning on the droning to be reading this list, or to even care.
33. If someone says Doom-Metal is a mix between Death-Metal and Gothic-Metal, kick him in the nuts.
34. Unless you're fixated on an Earth CD at the time, then you probably didn't hear a word he just said.
35. If you find yourself describing your favorite piece of music as "Joyful," "A bright ray of sunshine," or "the super happy fun song," there's a slight chance that it's not Doom.
36. Appropriate ways to describe your favorite music include "Crushing," "Monolithic," "Depressive," and "Suicidal."
37. Yes, those *are* complimentary terms!
38. If you feel down, then listen to some truly soul crushing, suicidal doom to cheer you up.
39. If you are Doom, you are probably from Finland.
40. Even if you're not Doom, if you're from Finland, you're still doomier than most doom from other countries.
41. If you're in a band, make music that only sounds good when played 10x faster.
42. If there are more than 30 beats per minute, the music is too fast.
43. If you play anything above 30 bpm, you aren't true doom, unless you are Disembowelment.
44. If Skepticism suddenly decides to play something above 30 bpm, then we will make an exception for them too.
45. Make sure to include such words as "Emptiness," "Dying," "Solitude," "Cold," "Night," "Despair," "Demon," "Caress," "Darkness," and "Shadows" in your band name, song titles, and lyrics. Arrange them in faux poetic ways such as "In the Cold Demon's Caress, I lay Dying," "Dark Emptiness," "In Demonic Shadows, I Despair." "Empty Shadows of Death," and one that every True Doomster should relate to: "Nights of Solitude."
46. Only the first two albums of a band are True(TM) doom.
47. Disband after the first album or mini-cd and you're CULT!
48. Your songs are not necissarily instrumentals... but you should give your audience at least 3 minutes worth of music to ponder if perhaps any given song will turn out to be one.
49. Record 6 songs that span over the length of 2 full CDs. Obviously intro's, outro's and short intermezzo's (on both disks) are included in the song count.
50. You must make fun of Black Metal musicians taking pictures in the woods. Promptly afterwards you will have your bandmate follow you into a thicket by the local cemetary with a 35mm camera for "band shots".
51. True doom lyrical content must include references to: a relative/spouse/fiancee/pet dying, abstract explorations of getting dumped by your girlfriend, or H.P. Lovecraft's short stories.
52. If you reference all three of the above topics in a single song, you qualify for "Sooper Dooper Pooper Scooper True Cult Doom" status. An example of this would be: "Rover has passed into the frozen wastes of Kadath, and my heart has been rent from my ribcage by thee, temptress bitch."
53. There have to be at least 3 different songs with the same name in your repertoire. (You may put a number after it if you want, such as "Rover, My Temptress Bitch MXVIII.")
54. While practicing your death metal "Cookie Monster" vocals, resist the temptation to write songs about how much the chocolate chips long to join the sugary dough for one last dip into the pond of milk white purity before being thrown into the gaping maw of a ravenous muppet.
55. Most importantly, and I can't stress this enough: Be from Finland!
 
Wow...

... Wow. The greatest thing about thoses lists is the people who write them know what they are talking about. A Doom fan make that list.

It's funny you should mention ****ed up Mad Max because I just discovered his music like 12 minutes ago... which is to say the example song by Worship was 12 minutes long... the most depressing bit of music I've ever heard. I can see why that dude committed sucide. If I wrote something like that, I probably would be so depressed, I would insantly die.

I would like to make a doom album, but I know I would make it completely jokey, and about pillaging elven villiages and killing baby... elves.
 
BassMicroSynth said:
The album "Dopespoker" by Sleep is soul-crushingly heavy! Matt Pike from High on Fire was in the band. Sabbath x 1000 = Sleep.

I dunno, I thought Jerusalem/Dopesmoker was soul crushingly meh. I heard the same thing about Alambama Thunderpussy. Also meh. High On Fire, now we're getting towards heavy. Some of Mastodon's stuff is heavy. I just didn't see much heavy in Jerusalem. Much respect to Sleep for doing the exact opposite of selling out on that one, but heavy? You'd have to be stoned...oh...wait...
 
Matt Till said:
Finland must be really depressed. I did noticed while cruising Doom.com that a huge portion of the bands were Fins.

Do you know how those people have to live? It's dark and cold for a good part of the year, there are still parts with no electricity(I have a friend whose town finally got it 6 years ago) and the liquor prices are so outrageous that people regulary take the voyage over to Estonia/Lithuania just to buy a car full of booze.
Having once gone out with a finnish girl I can attest that they're a bit nutty. Also, they speak a language that sounds like what one would imagine gnomes would talk like. Evil gnomes.
 
I hope Great (x10) Grandpa Till is responsible for this ditty

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*bangs head*

Hardcore

*** is phoney baloney garage rock... examples?
 
Matt Till said:
I hope Great (x10) Grandpa Till is responsible for this ditty

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*bangs head*

Hardcore

*** is phoney baloney garage rock... examples?

The Hives, Mando Diao, The Flaming Sideburns, The Beatsteaks, The Hellacopters, the International Noise Conspiracy. Basically all the Scandanavian bands that were really popular a year ago that played reheated MC5/Radio Birdman riffs.
 
Nick man said:
On top of that I think QOTSA have had more sucess with each single they've released and more media attention regarding their activities and new releases.

I for one am looking forward to the next album which is going to have guest; Shirley Manson (Garbage), Brody (Distilers), Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top).

Sucks about Nick though.

Totally, he was a killer player. I am trying to track down some discs from his other band, Mondo Generator.
 

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