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#22
48thStreetCustom said:
I guess it's all in your perspective. From where I'm sitting, someone who can stop at 4 seems like he has it under control.
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From where I sit, if you can't stop BEFORE four drinks, you definitely do NOT have it under control. And getting hammered once a year (or, I suspect, more) is a problem.

The last time I drank enough to actually have a hangover might have been 20 years ago. I have only required a few of those reminders in life to avoid it. and the last one was a good lesson.
 
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Pilgrim said:
From where I sit, if you can't stop BEFORE four drinks, you definitely do NOT have it under control. And getting hammered once a year (or, I suspect, more) is a problem.

The last time I drank enough to actually have a hangover might have been 20 years ago. I have only required a few of those reminders in life to avoid it. and the last one was a good lesson.
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Getting hammered once a year now qualifies as a drinking problem? If that's your definition than I'd be willing to bet the majority of adults would qualify.
 
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RED J said:
What you're describing is heavy drinking. But you can stop at a point. Then there is hard core alky who can't stop until he passes out, and causes major life disruption for himself and everyone around them. I have had both in my family. It's kind of a broad statement, I know, but a fair gauge. No guarantee it won't get worse. BTW I speak from personal experience as well.
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I'd like to put in an addendum...if you spend all your non drinking time thinking about and craving alcohol, you have a problem. Even if you can presently cut your self off at some point. It won't get better.

I'm not a hardcore A.A. guy, but google the list of questions they publish to gauge if you are probably an alcoholic. It's very eye opening.
 
#25
Febs said:
Well, people who can't stop at one often come to the realization that that's exactly where they do have to draw the line.
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Really? Because I can think of like 5 reasons off the top of my that someone could need a drink and none of them mean you have a drinking problem. Maybe you have a fear of flying. Maybe your friend just dared you to go up to the prettiest girl at a party and ask for her phone number. Maybe you're about to walk down the aisle and your a ball of nerves. Maybe you're a workaholic and having a drink is the only way to turn off your brain when you get home. Maybe your boss has been riding your butt all week and meeting your buddy for a drink after work is the only think that stops you from going in and quitting the next day. Maybe a beer is the only thing that makes spending the holidays with your neo-con inlaws barable. Alcohol isn't the problem in any of those situations.
 
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I found the excitement of drinking alcohol greatly diminished once I was legally allowed to do it, at age 21.

I have a small bourbon and tequila collection, a bottle of Scotch, and a few bottles of wine. I sip them now and then when I feel like chilling out. Usually by myself.

-Mike
 
#29
I had to stop in December, and hopefully I can make it permanent this time. I can't just have one with dinner or something like that. Just one changes my brain. Once I start drinking, I'll just drink them all and I'll be up all night. Other people don't get it, either. They'd always try to get me to "just have one" and so forth, but they will never understand, because they're not like that.
If I don't drink for a long time and then just have one, I can have just one that night. But maybe the next night or a couple nights later, I'll have two. Then later on four. And before you know it, it will be a total binge each and every night. That's just how I am. Heck, I even had to cut out coffee. But that's life with the ol' addictive personality.
One thing that happens to me is that booze winds me up. I suppose it gets my adrenaline going. It keeps me up at night. Instead of passing out, I'll just keep drinking. It's an awful way to live, in my opinion. My body is still recovering from the stress I put it through in the last year and a half.
 
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#32
48thStreetCustom said:
See? I'd say if you can stop at 4 you don't have a problem. Period. That's the definition of control. I personally find it much harder to stop at four than to stop at one.
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What this means is that you are incapable of choosing another beverage until you can feel that you're drunk. That's not control.

Your situation is a little different, once you are drunk you don't want anything else but liquor.

Neither situation is good.
 
#33
Phalex said:
I can do one, or none, or eight......

I'm usually good for two or three a night on average.

I think beer is probably one reason I'm so damn fat.
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I thought it came from eating other fat guys, like a Highlander "there can be only one" kind of thing :D
 
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PWRL said:
I had to stop in December, and hopefully I can make it permanent this time. I can't just have one with dinner or something like that. Just one changes my brain. Once I start drinking, I'll just drink them all and I'll be up all night. Other people don't get it, either. They'd always try to get me to "just have one" and so forth, but they will never understand, because they're not like that.
If I don't drink for a long time and then just have one, I can have just one that night. But maybe the next night or a couple nights later, I'll have two. Then later on four. And before you know it, it will be a total binge each and every night. That's just how I am. Heck, I even had to cut out coffee. But that's life with the ol' addictive personality.
One thing that happens to me is that booze winds me up. I suppose it gets my adrenaline going. It keeps me up at night. Instead of passing out, I'll just keep drinking. It's an awful way to live, in my opinion. My body is still recovering from the stress I put it through in the last year and a half.
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This is me exactly. If I don't have it in my system I don't think or crave over it. If I get some in me, I'm down this path and it's like rocket fuel. It takes me over. Abstinence for me.
 
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48thStreetCustom said:
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LOL. I don't think those ladies' lips did much to deter liquor consumption. Yuck!
 
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cheapbasslovin said:
What this means is that you are incapable of choosing another beverage until you can feel that you're drunk. That's not control.

Your situation is a little different, once you are drunk you don't want anything else but liquor.

Neither situation is good.
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No. There's nothing wrong with me. I'm perfectly normal. It's a fact that alcohol breaks down inhibition because of it's effect on the prefrontal cortex. And that means "why not" after 3 beers is a perfectly normal reaction in everyone.

You are aware that there's a fairly large portion of the medical community who don't agree that alcoholism is a disease, don't you?
 
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48thStreetCustom said:
No. There's nothing wrong with me. I'm perfectly normal. It's a fact that alcohol breaks down inhibition because of it's effect on the prefrontal cortex. And that means "why not" after 3 beers is a perfectly normal reaction in everyone.

You are aware that there's a fairly large portion of the medical community who don't agree that alcoholism is a disease, aren't you?
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Fixed it for you.

No, I'm not, and doubt the assertion.
 

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