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Struggling with a purchase decision.

Don't know what your price range is, but...

Eastwood makes some well received short scales that are in the $500-$600 range


My personal favorite basses are from Birdsong Guitars - professional short scale basses since 2004
They can run in the $2000 range, so if that is too much you could always try Scott side project, the shortbass, which is a Birdsong in it's most simplistic form. Shortbasses are about half the price.

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Don't give up on the short scale search, there are plenty of good ones out there!
 
+1 to beatle's post. If you have found a home with a certain scale...why limit yourself to the bottom end pricewise? I've seen your posts over the years in regards to scale. My .02 is save up your $$ and buy a short scale bass that has more invested into its build than just inexpensive imported parts. You may just be shocked at how a well-built shorter scale bass can sound.
 
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Don't know what your price range is, but...

Eastwood makes some well received short scales that are in the $500-$600 range


My personal favorite basses are from Birdsong Guitars - professional short scale basses since 2004
They can run in the $2000 range, so if that is too much you could always try Scott side project, the shortbass, which is a Birdsong in it's most simplistic form. Shortbasses are about half the price.

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Don't give up on the short scale search, there are plenty of good ones out there!

Alembic makes a nice short scale too....
 
If you like the new string brightness i encourage you to get elixirs. They sound bright for many months. They are cheaper in the long run.

As for your bass, check and make sure the neck screws are not loose, but don't overtighten and strip them. Seriously, don't go far beyond snug. Your bridge screws as well. also make sure your neck is not weak and pulls back and forth easy.

I find that the rigidity of the neck and neck joint is the crucial factor to getting good tone. A fancy pickup can't compensate for that.
 
Hey all. Hopefully this story won't be too long, I'll keep it as brief as possible.

I switched over to short scale basses some time ago (a year or two) because I'm small, and thought it would be more comfortable, which it is. But never been really happy with the sounds I get from them.

I'm itching for another long scale and am torn between the much revered squier vm jazz and the ibanez SR300. Seem to have quite similar necks but totally different beasts otherwise. The ibanez is a great light weight but doesn't have the massive tone of the jazz. And I find it horribly uncomfortable to play sitting down - I only play at home so am mostly seated anyway.

The jazz, although it sounds divine, and has an amazing feeling neck, is much heavier. Tried one out tonight and made my shoulder a bit sore after 10 mins. Thin nylon strap though, mine is wide and leather. I don't even play standing up much, but if that changes I may have trouble!

The one I tried also had a pretty high action due to a lot of relief, hopefully I could set it up to my liking assuming the truss rod hasn't been messed up. I'm scared of buying used basses.

Anyway. I'm really leaning towards the jazz as it sounded so good and I've itched for a jazz for a long time, but the weight and action are putting me off.

Help me talkbass, you're my only hope.

EDIT: the jazz is the seemingly very popular VM with satin neck and maple body
You could always resort to just playing while seated and the bass is on your thigh.
I might be doing that in the future with my hip problem.
 
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You have kinda a perfect storm for a 'thin' sound. A cheap short scale with light strings will very rarely sound beefy. My first suggestion would be to just use a higher guage string. It might not solve the problem in its entirety, but it'll help. Beyond that, look for a better quality instrument. You get what you pay for.
 
I may be sort of an authority on heavy basses now, as I'm voluntarily playing an Ibanez ATK-305. One of the heavier bastards out there among accessible/affordable basses, and a fiver to boot. Why am I playing it? It's here already, and it sounds awesome and is amazingly flexible and feels great under my hands, so trading it would be a total last resort.

While this hasn't cured the fact that it's frikkin' HEAVY, I noticed a very real difference between my old minimal, basic 2" strap and my newer leather 2.5" one when I put it on. Seems like almost no difference in width, but I've had a concrete increase in time I can spend playing it while standing up in undistracted comfort.

That strap is getting reassigned to my Taurus once I finish modding it (the ATK's weight has stretched the button holes very slightly, but visibly) et al, so I'm thinking of getting a wide comfort strap for the ATK. I can report back once I do, but I've already got a suspicion that it will do further wonders in the bass's sustainable playing time.

But I also insist on playing while standing up at all times, since I'm stuck at a computer for 8-9 hrs a day 5 days a week in a chair/desk situation that promotes absolutely horrible posture, with no recourse thanks to capitalism. I'm literally doing it for my health, standing up while playing. Plus, when I got called on rather randomly to start playing (simple, relatively low-pressure, fun) gigs a while back, there wasn't any adjustment except to be a little more entertaining to look at.

All to say, I might suggest a new strap, something like a 3" padded affair, as a first approach. Worst case scenario, you have an awesome spare strap. And besides, if you go for the Squier J & play mostly sitting down, it's not even an issue. But I think it would be empowering to discover that you can play standing up at length. Of course, everyone's different, and there's no guarantee the strap will do it. But they're not expensive, and always potentially useful. Just my 2.5 cents.
 
I know what you mean about the Ibanez not quite having that "deep" tone.

I love Ibanez basses, and I was all set to buy the SR300 myself when I accidently stumbled across my now beloved ESP LTD B-104.

I had tried out the SR300 at a Sam Ash & loved it, then I walked into a pawn shop not even looking for a bass and found my musical soul mate.

She's a little beefier than the Ibanez, and although the neck is thin - it's not as thin as the Ibanez neck which is what I "think" (I'm no expert) causes some Ibanez basses to have the reputation of being great, but not deep or warm enough. (not enough wood mass in the neck)

I still may own an Ibanez down the road one day as I do like them, but I agree with everyone else that has suggested for you to just keep looking until you find that perfect fit, and you will.

Good Luck.....
 

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