Subway+ Bass DI-Preamp II

[five7]

I am tempted to try one but fearful I won't like my B800D as much.

 

[DJ Bebop]

I am tempted to try one but fearful I won't like my B800D as much.

But if you get one, you would have both flavors and still have the B800D

 

[DJ Bebop]

Question for anyone with knowledge on the Subway+ DI 2.0, agedhorse.

Is there some sort of make-up gain involved with the Voicing control?

I noticed is seems to get louder or more punchy as it's used. Unlike some voicing controls as you turn them up the scooped midrange seems to take away volume from the total output.

 

[agedhorse]

Question for anyone with knowledge on the Subway+ DI 2.0, agedhorse.

Is there some sort of make-up gain involved with the Voicing control?

I noticed is seems to get louder or more punchy as it's used. Unlike some voicing controls as you turn them up the scooped midrange seems to take away volume from the total output.

Yes indeed, that's an inherent part of this circuit's architecture. The dropping of the volume of most mid cut/scoop circuits is viewed as inferior by those who asked for this type of circuit as I was developing it for Mesa back in 2014. It's quite different and way more player friendly IME.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Yes indeed, that's an inherent part of this circuit's architecture. The dropping of the volume of most mid cut/scoop circuits is viewed as inferior by those who asked for this type of circuit as I was developing it for Mesa back in 2014. It's quite different and way more player friendly IME.

“Thanks for that!”

 

[Turn Em Loose]

Yes, a very mild version of the Subway 115 cabinet.

I posted a draft copy of the manual in the Subway club thread (I think that’s where it is). The IT guys are working on getting the correct manual posted.

Ok. I *think* I read somewhere the DI still has the cab sim when set to Pre?

 

[agedhorse]

Ok. I *think* I read somewhere the DI still has the cab sim when set to Pre?

It’s pretty flat in pre mode. The cab sim circuit works in conjunction with the preamp voicing, without the preamp voicing it’s pretty benign.

 

[Mighty Thumb]

So I fired up this pedal for the first time last night and , wow, I’m really digging it! The tone possibilities are going to be a lot of fun to explore. It only took a couple minutes to land on settings that worked pretty well with the bass I was using (MetroExpress Modern 5 with John East Pre and TI flats). As described in the manual, there is some very interesting stuff happening with the Deep switch + HPF and the Bright switch + Treble control. Experimentation highly recommended! After Sunday I’ll have more time to experiment and start picking out other pedals for a board since I’ll be out of rotation for a few weeks.

Other initial observations:

• The form factor is great. It’s compact enough for a small board build but the switches and knobs don’t feel too cramped.
• All the connections on top make for easy cable routing & management and also make it friendly to Aclam (clamping) style mounting systems, which is what I use.
• On that note, the included rubber feet are great! I put them on all pedals anyway because they’re either being mounted on a board and I don’t want metal on metal contact, or they’re sitting on a desk. The feet keep the pedal from sliding around. May seem like a trivial thing to some, but not to me.

I’m going to give it some more time, but I can very easily see myself picking up a second one to live permanently on my desk. The value per dollar equation is really hard to beat. I hope they sell a buh-gillion of these and they become as ubiquitous as the SansAmp.

 

[Al Kraft]

I hope they sell a buh-gillion of these and they become as ubiquitous as the SansAmp.

I have been a SansAmp owner forever and also own a number of other preamps. I like all of them, but this one really hits the nail on the head in so many areas that it's tough to beat unless you have a specific signature sound you want that you can't find in this box.

 

[JJR58]

So I fired up this pedal for the first time last night and , wow, I’m really digging it! The tone possibilities are going to be a lot of fun to explore. It only took a couple minutes to land on settings that worked pretty well with the bass I was using (MetroExpress Modern 5 with John East Pre and TI flats). As described in the manual, there is some very interesting stuff happening with the Deep switch + HPF and the Bright switch + Treble control. Experimentation highly recommended! After Sunday I’ll have more time to experiment and start picking out other pedals for a board since I’ll be out of rotation for a few weeks.

Other initial observations:

• The form factor is great. It’s compact enough for a small board build but the switches and knobs don’t feel too cramped.
• All the connections on top make for easy cable routing & management and also make it friendly to Aclam (clamping) style mounting systems, which is what I use.
• On that note, the included rubber feet are great! I put them on all pedals anyway because they’re either being mounted on a board and I don’t want metal on metal contact, or they’re sitting on a desk. The feet keep the pedal from sliding around. May seem like a trivial thing to some, but not to me.

I’m going to give it some more time, but I can very easily see myself picking up a second one to live permanently on my desk. The value per dollar equation is really hard to beat. I hope they sell a buh-gillion of these and they become as ubiquitous as the SansAmp.

Where can I get these rubber feet?
None were included with mine.

 

[Mighty Thumb]

Where can I get these rubber feet?
None were included with mine.

They were in the bag with the manual and sticker. Sorry to hear you didn’t get them. Here’s what I’ve bought in the past for other pedals. They seem to work pretty well.
Link

 

[michael_t]

Where can I get these rubber feet?
None were included with mine.

They were in the bag with the manual and sticker.

It's the little black square thing in the little clear plastic pouch.

 

[JJR58]

It's the little black square thing in the little clear plastic pouch.

View attachment 7490686

Found em!
Thank you!

 

[agedhorse]

Where can I get these rubber feet?
None were included with mine.

Message me and I will send you some

[edit: never mind ]

 

[Turn Em Loose]

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Just for giggles. Both tracks with my “P bass” (Bluesman Vintage with pretty new nickel rounds and tone wide open) playing along to Find Yourself by Lucas Nelson. Great tune with a veeerrry delayed backbeat.

Subway’s DI is set to Pre.

Subway+ II
JDI

 

[DJ Bebop]

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Just for giggles. Both tracks with my “P bass” (Bluesman Vintage with pretty new nickel rounds and tone wide open) playing along to Find Yourself by Lucas Nelson. Great tune with a veeerrry delayed backbeat.

Subway’s DI is set to Pre.

Subway+ II
JDI

Which did you like better?

 

[Turn Em Loose]

Which did you like better?

Honestly? Maaayyybe a slight edge towards the Subway. Check out the links and decide for yourself.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Honestly? Maaayyybe a slight edge towards the Subway. Check out the links and decide for yourself.

I did, for the amount of slight diffeances vs usefullness. I pick and have picked the Subway

 

[Al Kraft]

When anything with other circuitry can get you a signal as clean and full as a Radial JDI, that's impressive in my book. Of course given all Andy's years in the pro sound and touring world, he wasn't about to deliver any DI on anything he designs that isn't top tier quality.

 

[Turn Em Loose]

When anything with other circuitry can get you a signal as clean and full as a Radial JDI, that's impressive in my book. Of course given all Andy's years in the pro sound and touring world, he wasn't about to deliver any DI on anything he designs that isn't top tier quality.

Yeah. That’s pretty much it, exactly. Pretty impressive.