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A real cunning linguist can achieve their desired effect without resorting to profanity. I think it's kind of like resorting to violence in an argument.

Plus it took me years to stop talking like that after I got out of the Army. I used to quite enjoy how well I could swear, now I enjoy how well I can speak in whatever company I find myself in. To be honest I still slip, and sometimes even enjoy it - oh well!
 
First off.....feel free to consider the policing of your vocabulary as the dues (or penance, depending on your outlook) you pay in order to belong to our secret order.

Second......the most vicious, soul reaving, ego crushing, take no prisoners, leave no survivors, surgically eviscerating, dressing down that I ever personally witnessed was delivered by a Navy Master Chief who filleted (and flayed) his subordinate for a full 11 minutes, nonstop, top to bottom, front to back, full width, without ever using a SINGLE PROFANITY.
His words, and the manner in which they were delivered, figuratively peeled this swabs skin off, and left him nakedly exposed for his thoughtlessness.
Pick your roughest, toughest biker or oil wildcatter and they wouldn't have stood a chance against this type of focused, relentless, barrage.
My point is that you can get your point across without resorting to base language (no pun intended).
We'll all be better off if we elevate the civility of our discourse here at TB.
JMTC, YMMV.



ps...to his credit, the Chief, once finished, literally took the sailor by the arm, led him back to the scene of his infraction, and calmly and patiently explained to him how his actions had endangered the welfare of his ship, and therefore the entire crew.
 
Where I live, obscene and blasphemous language (and the two mixed together, like in "may God f**k you!") is standard and widely accepted, even Catholic grandmothers bust out with the saltiest idioms imaginable. The "strong language" of the local language, Slovene, is too archaic to be used for anything but comical effect- "Three hundred hairy bears!" just gets a laugh in modern times. It probably sounded serious 500 years ago when saying the name of the animal summoned the animal's presence (shamanistic magic tradition), but now it just sounds like something from children's puppet theater. But when the country was still part of Yugoslavia, everyone spoke Serbo-Croatian, and Serbo-Croatian swearing is still used. It is fantastically obscene and brutal, so much so that it is mostly used for entertainment purposes, and more rarely with violent intent. "May a horse with a bloody d**k f**k your sister on your mother's grave", for example, is more likely to be said between drinking buddies when goofing off than in actual anger, though it would not be wise to say such a thing further south where tempers run hotter and people are more heavily armed and just the equivalent of "Yo mama" can get you knifed. I am all for obscene language, love it and really enjoy being able to cut loose with obscenities without worrying about being stereotyped as an ignoramous. The complete lack of political correctness is also a great relief, though I have to be careful not to get into the habit of saying the kinds of things that would get me lynched by a mob of SJW's in the US, in case I visit there again. And the capitol city, Ljubljana, is also painfully and restrictively Westernized. I am in the "redneck" part of the country, in the east.
 
Swearing all the time diminishes its usefulness and impact, especially if it's expected of you. People don't truly grasp how angry or upset you may be if you swear all the time. My father rarely (and I mean almost never) swore. And when he dropped an F-bomb once in his later years in regards to something he was really angry about, it almost floored me. I knew he was truly upset. (In fact, I was so taken aback, that I don't remember what it was the set him off; only that he swore.)
 
Hi shadven :)

We’re adults here, or aspiring adults who interact in the real world.

That' s a good one! :roflmao:

Most artists are open minded and use creativity in their language and should be able to use all the linguistic tools available.

:D Some artists do but..

The reality is more like: "Most (…) artists are (…) open minded and use their (…) creativity in their (…)

language and should be (…) able to use all the (…) linguistic tools available.

Sounds familiar? ;)

To all the kids who might read this:

(…) = a vulgar word that describes sexual intercourse that is lacking passion or a feeling of sincere love.

Some adults use it completely out of context: A (…) big car! = A very big car!

Don' t judge them too hard! :D Try to do it better!

There are so many beautiful words to replace (…) that make more sense!



may the bass be with you

Wise(b)ass


As it is it's all good.


(…) right! :laugh:
 
Swearing all the time diminishes its usefulness and impact, especially if it's expected of you. People don't truly grasp how angry or upset you may be if you swear all the time. My father rarely (and I mean almost never) swore. And when he dropped an F-bomb once in his later years in regards to something he was really angry about, it almost floored me. I knew he was truly upset. (In fact, I was so taken aback, that I don't remember what it was the set him off; only that he swore.)
That is true- when my mom said "damn" once, that was a historical event. We couldn't even use the word "sex" in the house, probably why I have such a foul mouth now. I never censored my son's language; one of his first words was dropping the F bomb good and loud, that was so cute!
 
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I've been known to use the odd four-letter word for emphasis or effect, and if whack my thumb with a hammer I'm about 99.9% sure to shout something that would be replaced by asterisks if quoted in mainstream media. But generally I'm not much for swearing. There are so many other perfectly good words to convey anger, joy, passion, disgust, sadness, etc. in the English language, and in most languages, I would imagine. I certainly don't need to write any down in here.
 
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Years ago, when I played in my first band, I got a valuable lesson from the band leader.

I was 16 years old. I had long hair. I was making $300-$500 most weekends playing bars and parties all over NC and VA. It was 1987. I was cocky. You couldn't tell me anything. I had it all figured out.

We were playing a small hotel bar in Franklin, VA. I was singing a little backup vocals so I had a mic. During a little in-between-songs banter, I dropped an F bomb.

They kept going as if nothing had happened. But during the break, we had a talk. I got some lecturing. But the one thing that stuck with me in those speeches was.....

"Man, you'll never offend anyone by NOT cursing. Nobody will ever leave your show saying the band was great.... vocals were tight.... light show was awesome.... and the bass player is dead sexy...... if only they had dropped some F bombs I would have been entertained."

In my more than 30 years of playing in clubs and bars, it has been my policy not to use that kind of language on stage. And, honestly, I rarely do in life. You can apply that wisdom to meetings, conversations, etc. Nobidy will ever walk away from me saying...

"Twofer seemed like a great guy. He looks like a model, seems funny, has his act together, and is one of the most interesting people I have come across in decades. I just wish he had let me hold a GD or an MFer while we were talking."

(Everything else about that quote is absolutely true, by the way. I can't walk through the grocery store without turning down three modeling gigs. Seems like it would be fun. But it's not. Try staying married when you look like me.)
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Oh, and I'm fine with TB as is. Even having been given a time out or two (check my record... I've literally been banned twice because I struggle with knowing when to shut up), I love that we keep it clean here.

If we were to introduce cursing and politics this place would last a week as is. Kudos to those who made the decision to avoid topics and language that divide us.
 
I contend that the more frequently you use profanity the less power it has until it becomes meaningless. When your words have lost their power how are you able to convey intense emotions anymore? Keep your strong words for when they really are needed. Daily conversational use will just dilute them.
 
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Most people use an occasional cuss word for emphasis. I’ve read that highly intelligent people swear and use cuss words.

I have an IQ of 147 and am a member of Mensa. I rarely swear. Personally, I don't like it as part of daily language. I think it makes people sound unintelligent and many people use swears, especially the "F" word to try to sound cool. To me, it has the opposite effect. That's one of the things that I don't like about David Grohl. He doesn't seem to be able to complete a sentence without dropping the "F Bomb".

I like the fact that unlike many other social media platforms, TB actually has standards. If TB allows swearing, before you know it, people will be posting sexually explicit content. There is a time and a place for almost everything. TB is not one of those.
 
I feel like profanities are a culture related subject. TB is the only page I follow that sensors its users, but it also is the only page based in U.S. that I follow so. Being politically correct is important for you guys and I try to respect it while I am visiting here. I think you make too big deal about it, but house rules and all that.
 
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