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Tattoos.. yay or nay.

The first few artists in the gallery look okay, but the last two guys are really unimpressive.

Oh, and I forsee anyone getting an Insane Clown Posse tattoo regretting it later.


dust the second to last guy is actually my cousin, i'll agree he hasnt been too impressive yet.. he's getting there tho.. he has much better pieces up on his myspace.. the last guy jared (call him JJ) is actually probably the best artist there.. they really need to update his gallery..

jake is downright amazing.. he is the most booked artist at that place..

btw the first three are all guitards..

and i'll agree with you on the ICP tat.. although i've met alot of people with them..
 
I have counted 11 ICP tats in my sophomore class alone! :atoz:

Most of them done by their drunk 19 year old siblings. :rollno:

This is what gives tats a bad reputation.


IMHO, they're too prevalent these days, not that I be hatin'. IMHO, they've become a weak attempt to give one identity. Oh yeah, coy fish sleeves make you original....just like everyone else. It's about the same as the new age of kids names that are last names for first names, gender neutral names, and girl names with strategically placed y's and extra n's......:p
 
Look dude, if there's any hesitation on your part, you're not ready. Each tat should be meaningful and something that defines a part of your life. As harsh as it may sound, most sophomores in high school do not have a grasp of this concept yet, and I am willing to use this thread as evidence to suggest that you don't either. You will be in a completely different space in your head 2-3 years from now. Revisit the idea then.
 
This is what gives tats a bad reputation.


IMHO, they're too prevalent these days, not that I be hatin'. IMHO, they've become a weak attempt to give one identity. Oh yeah, coy fish sleeves make you original....just like everyone else. It's about the same as the new age of kids names that are last names for first names, gender neutral names, and girl names with strategically placed y's and extra n's......:p


dont be hating on koi fish tattoos.. i know they are far from original but i still want one.. i think they are amazing looking and downright beautiful.. thats why i want one.. i think the fact that the tattoo naysayers on here believe people are trying to be original by getting tattoos have their beliefs greatly misplaced.

the examples you gave are trends not attempts at having an identity.. are you saying you have never went along with a trend? if so good for you.

the stigma of tattoos is all but gone in the younger demographic. many employers [in my area] have had to adapt hiring policies in order to have candidates for hire. in the 18-24 demographic non tattood or pierced are the minority in many areas. the 25 - 32 demographic is about equal tattood/pierced and not. not to mention the blatent sexism in the fact that women are allowed to have pierced ears in the workplace and men are not.

when i came into the job i have earrings on guys were not allowed.. they soon determined that having my gauges in my ears looked much better than a gaping hole in my ear. i also pointed out to the office manager that it was sexist..
 
dont be hating on koi fish tattoos.. i know they are far from original but i still want one.. i think they are amazing looking and downright beautiful.. thats why i want one.. i think the fact that the tattoo naysayers on here believe people are trying to be original by getting tattoos have their beliefs greatly misplaced.

the examples you gave are trends not attempts at having an identity.. are you saying you have never went along with a trend? if so good for you.

I've never been the type to follow or rebel against trends. I generally have too much of my own agenda going on to really care what everyone else is doing.

Koi fish (my bad on the initial spelling) were cool the first time. Like Nickleback and other pop fads, it's the constant barage that turns it into a basic bandwagon part of pop culture.

I wouldn't say getting a tat is a cry for attention/identity, but you can't deny that there are plenty doing it for this exact reason. Over the years, I've known several who went through a goth phase and it's basically the same thing. One chick was probably the most boring person I had ever met and probably wouldn't get any attention otherwise.
 
I've never been the type to follow or rebel against trends. I generally have too much of my own agenda going on to really care what everyone else is doing.

Koi fish (my bad on the initial spelling) were cool the first time. Like Nickleback and other pop fads, it's the constant barage that turns it into a basic bandwagon part of pop culture.

I wouldn't say getting a tat is a cry for attention/identity, but you can't deny that there are plenty doing it for this exact reason. Over the years, I've known several who went through a goth phase and it's basically the same thing. One chick was probably the most boring person I had ever met and probably wouldn't get any attention otherwise.

i agree with your statement on trends, they ebb and flow. the problem for me lies in the fact that society seems to use them to judge people. keeping my want of a koi fish sleeve as an example if i get it done five years from now i'm oldschool, get it done today i'm jumping on the bandwagon, five years ago i'm trendy, 10 years ago i'm a visionary.. even if i had wanted one all along.. that bugs me..

i silently corrected ur spelling cuz that is rather unimportant , wouldnt you say? and i agree the barage makes things lose impact, but that shouldnt stop someone from liking what they like.

i'm sure people do get certain tattoos or tattoos in general for a feeling of identity or to feel like the fit in.. the problem for me is when that overshadows the people who have, for lack of a better word, BETTER reasons for getting a similar tattoo.

lets say for example i get a koi in water with cherry blossoms tattoo because in my backyard i have an asian themed garden with ponds, waterfalls, bambo, and shinto gates.. cherry trees blossoming and wedded rocks.. and in those ponds i have traditional flora and fauna.. now i'm just getting dismissed as bandwagon.. and boo on that


did any of this really have a point.. ?

probably not..
 
I say nay. I'm trying to go out of this world a little bigger, hairier, and smarter than when I came into it. If there was supposed to be a cheetah or a bass clef on my skin it would have already been there. And I will always remember my family, schoolmates, bandmates, teammates, friends, pets etc. without having to permanently ink them into my skin.
 
i the problem for me lies in the fact that society seems to use them to judge people.

Without me going to nutzo into psychology theories, don't let it fool ya, some people want to be judged. Very few things taste as good as the forbidden fruit. If the taboo weren't there, would there have ever been a goth scene?? Not to pick on the gothic lifestyle, but I've developed a few theories based on some interactions n' stuff.

With me, I'm not against 'em, but my profession basically requires them to be covered. As an avid cyclist, I get entirely too much sun even though I always use lots of sun screen. Having something covered up seems to lack utility for me.
 
I don't think there is a design or emblem that I could live with & look at the rest of my life.

I saw an episode of LA Ink where a man had a star tattooed on his back, that was the same as his Basenji dog.
 
If you really want it i would get it. Obviously wait till your 18. And really find an artist you like. I hate when people talk about people that have tattoos as if they are less of a person. First off it takes nerves to get a Tat. And its art. And its your body. ITS YOUR LAST FREEDOM!!!! They already try and tell you what you can do or can not do with your body. I find people with ink are more interesting.
 
i agree with your statement on trends, they ebb and flow. the problem for me lies in the fact that society seems to use them to judge people. keeping my want of a koi fish sleeve as an example if i get it done five years from now i'm oldschool, get it done today i'm jumping on the bandwagon, five years ago i'm trendy, 10 years ago i'm a visionary.. even if i had wanted one all along.. that bugs me..

i silently corrected ur spelling cuz that is rather unimportant , wouldnt you say? and i agree the barage makes things lose impact, but that shouldnt stop someone from liking what they like.

i'm sure people do get certain tattoos or tattoos in general for a feeling of identity or to feel like the fit in.. the problem for me is when that overshadows the people who have, for lack of a better word, BETTER reasons for getting a similar tattoo.

lets say for example i get a koi in water with cherry blossoms tattoo because in my backyard i have an asian themed garden with ponds, waterfalls, bambo, and shinto gates.. cherry trees blossoming and wedded rocks.. and in those ponds i have traditional flora and fauna.. now i'm just getting dismissed as bandwagon.. and boo on that


did any of this really have a point.. ?

probably not..


Alright I have to bring up the koi tattoo. You're talking about old school and new school and the reasons why you like it without one mention to something that is a centuries old tradition. The koi as a tattoo has been around since the 1600's in japan. Koi ponds have deep spiritual mean and significance with Buddhists as does the koi itself. For instance, albino koi that have a red dot on their head are considered especially nice because they are symbolic of the japanese "rising sun" flag. But all that aside. There is a long history of the koi tattoo and what the koi symbolizes within Japanese history culture, as well as how the meaning has shifted as it became adopted by the Yakuza, the Japanese mafia. It's much more than just a pretty picture. Even if your reasoning was because you have a garden with a pond and some plants in it, when you put that tattoo on your body you are wearing the history of the koi and all the symbolism it entails. It's a history you should be aware of before you make it permanent on your body. You might not like what you find. The Yakuza in Japan are notorious for being ruthless thugs, and despite how we glorify the mafia here in the states (in the media), they are not glorified in Japan. If you go to Japan, a white (gaijin) with a koi tattoo, might not be taken too kindly. Some food for thought.
 
Alright I have to bring up the koi tattoo. You're talking about old school and new school and the reasons why you like it without one mention to something that is a centuries old tradition. The koi as a tattoo has been around since the 1600's in japan. Koi ponds have deep spiritual mean and significance with Buddhists as does the koi itself. For instance, albino koi that have a red dot on their head are considered especially nice because they are symbolic of the japanese "rising sun" flag. But all that aside. There is a long history of the koi tattoo and what the koi symbolizes within Japanese history culture, as well as how the meaning has shifted as it became adopted by the Yakuza, the Japanese mafia. It's much more than just a pretty picture. Even if your reasoning was because you have a garden with a pond and some plants in it, when you put that tattoo on your body you are wearing the history of the koi and all the symbolism it entails. It's a history you should be aware of before you make it permanent on your body. You might not like what you find. The Yakuza in Japan are notorious for being ruthless thugs, and despite how we glorify the mafia here in the states (in the media), they are not glorified in Japan. If you go to Japan, a white (gaijin) with a koi tattoo, might not be taken too kindly. Some food for thought.

History lesson burn. :D
 
Alright I have to bring up the koi tattoo. You're talking about old school and new school and the reasons why you like it without one mention to something that is a centuries old tradition. The koi as a tattoo has been around since the 1600's in japan. Koi ponds have deep spiritual mean and significance with Buddhists as does the koi itself. For instance, albino koi that have a red dot on their head are considered especially nice because they are symbolic of the japanese "rising sun" flag. But all that aside. There is a long history of the koi tattoo and what the koi symbolizes within Japanese history culture, as well as how the meaning has shifted as it became adopted by the Yakuza, the Japanese mafia. It's much more than just a pretty picture. Even if your reasoning was because you have a garden with a pond and some plants in it, when you put that tattoo on your body you are wearing the history of the koi and all the symbolism it entails. It's a history you should be aware of before you make it permanent on your body. You might not like what you find. The Yakuza in Japan are notorious for being ruthless thugs, and despite how we glorify the mafia here in the states (in the media), they are not glorified in Japan. If you go to Japan, a white (gaijin) with a koi tattoo, might not be taken too kindly. Some food for thought.

It's a funny thing, most symbols have changed hands/meanings over time, through the likes of gangs, prisoners and wars etc, but who gets to judge what era/belief the work represents but the wearer themselves?
Does the swastika represent evolution or involution like the Hindus believe, or perhaps the seventh saint in Jianism, or even eternity, or if I get a swastika tattooed on me, am I a neo-nazi?
Skulls can mean celebration to some, death to others. The two theatrical faces of comedy and tragedy are used by prison in-mates, does it make me a drama geek or a killer if I have it on me?
List goes on and on.