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tc electronic bh250 - new micro head!

#221
Found the problem, this Eden cab is actually 8 ohm, not 4ohm like the owner thought. Had to get my gear noob wings sometime!

If I could drive it that hard at 8ohm, 4ohm is going to be plenty loud. Thanks for the help everyone!
 
#222
Got to test drive mine tonight in rehearsal...twas awesome. Drove a 410/115 stack just fine. Band was a group of hippie/earthy types, and if the size off it didn't freak them out the Toneprint sure did! They was all like "whaaaa???"
 
#223
Ok, I'm new to posting around here but I've been lurking for years.

My question is as follows, how does this amp compare in power to a Behringer bx3000 300 watt head?

I've been using the Behringer in my band for well over a year. 5 piece progressive rock with 2 guitars and a keyboard player and the Behringer has been great, in fact I'm looking for something with a little less power because I never turn the volume knob past 3 and would like to have something slightly more portable. I currently have 2 ashdown cabs, a 112 and a 210 and taking 3 trips out to the car for load in and load out is getting tiresome.
 
#225
Ok so it sounds like it should get the job done. I just have one more question.

currently I run my cabs in parallel with speaker cables running to each cab from the dual speaker outs on my behringer. the bh250 only has one output. having never used a speakon cable before would I just use a speakon cable to go to cab 1 and then daisy chain a quarter inch speaker cable to the second cab or is there a speakon cable or some kind of adapter that will split the signal to both cabs? I'm a pretty ashamed newb at all this.
 
#226
Overture1986 said:
Ok so it sounds like it should get the job done. I just have one more question.

currently I run my cabs in parallel with speaker cables running to each cab from the dual speaker outs on my behringer. the bh250 only has one output. having never used a speakon cable before would I just use a speakon cable to go to cab 1 and then daisy chain a quarter inch speaker cable to the second cab or is there a speakon cable or some kind of adapter that will split the signal to both cabs? I'm a pretty ashamed newb at all this.
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This ^^
 
#231
DonaldR said:
Problem with TC is that they have 4-5 very fine toneprints for bass but don't have standalone pedals for using them (tubedrive, spectracomp, octaver, etc.)
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Yes. I would love to see a generic multieffect TC pedal (somewhat like the Zoom MS-60B or even the Zoom B3/G3), but based on TC Electronic downloadable Toneprints. I think they have more than 4-5 great Toneprints, and the option to arrange them in patch groups would be a killer in a live setting. What I don't like about the Zoom products is that they are so obviously targeted at either bass or guitar. I see no reason why such a multieffect pedal shouldn't have the flexibility to be used on any electric guitar-like instrument, including basses, baritone guitars, bass IV, 7 strings and indeed instruments with an obscene number of strings (10 string bass/guitars anyone?)
 
#232
Shardik said:
Yes. I would love to see a generic multieffect TC pedal (somewhat like the Zoom MS-60B or even the Zoom B3/G3), but based on TC Electronic downloadable Toneprints. I think they have more than 4-5 great Toneprints, and the option to arrange them in patch groups would be a killer in a live setting. What I don't like about the Zoom products is that they are so obviously targeted at either bass or guitar. I see no reason why such a multieffect pedal shouldn't have the flexibility to be used on any electric guitar-like instrument, including basses, baritone guitars, bass IV, 7 strings and indeed instruments with an obscene number of strings (10 string bass/guitars anyone?)
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I, too, would like to see a modern, tone print-equipped TC multi. The Nova system is obsolete, and a full set of tone print pedals is too expensive and takes up too much space.

Disagree about the the perceived limitations of the new Zooms, though. There are a couple of reviews of the MS-50 with bass, and they sound just fine. From what I can see, the MS-60B is basically the "bass pack" version- it has bass amps and bass-oriented effects that the guitar version lacks. However, I could easily see having an MS-50 and an MS-60B on a small pedalboard as a killer bass effects rig with 10 simultaneous effects, for two bills.

BH250 content: Am I the only person disappointed by a back to back comparison between the BG and BH? The BH makes you use up the TonePrint slot if you want Tube Tone, and it doesn't have a gain control.

Most importantly, I found it difficult to dial in a specific tone on the BH250. The controls seemed to be extremely interactive, even more so than my old Genz Streamliner. Maybe it was my cabs, but I have no such trouble dialling in tones with my buddy's BG250 combo.
 
#233
Never tried the BG250, but I agree that it is an awesome package if you don't need the light weight/small size of the BH250. I use the TubeDrive as my default Toneprint, and I see the usefulness of one more, but the way I see it, the BH250 with Tubedrive Toneprint covers a lot of basic head needs. The rest I solve with pedals, and to be honest, most effects benefit from the flexibility of more than one control knob.
 
#234
Can anyone point me in the direction of (or supply) some clips of the various drives available on this? On the site, they have a few audio samples available but don't specify what tone print clip it actually is. I'm curious about purchasing one of these for a backup situation, but only if it has some usable and somewhat convincing tube drive.

Can anybody chime in and speak to that specifically?
 
#235
No, I don't have clips. I use the TubeDrive TonePrint as standard in my BH250, and I find it quite usable and convincing as a low gain tube drive.

If I want more drive I use an effects pedal, but I think the 4 provided BassDrive TonePrints provide a quite versatile palette of drive models.
 
#236
I have a problem with the TC Helicon Switch 3 Footswitch on the BH250. Sometimes the sequence of the switch functions (factory setting: 1. Mute, 2. Toneprint on/off, 3. Toneprint select) changes :rollno: (e.g. switch 3 becomes the mute) or even individual switch functions are lost (e.g. 2. Toneprint on/off):crying:. Who did also observe such malfunction and knows a cause/ solution?:hyper:
 
#239
Okay, I've had mine a bit and here's my take:

This amp has been plenty loud for small club and party gigs. Bigger?...hey, you got a direct out for the board.

I saw somewhere on TB that someone said this amp was "wooly sounding", like an old Ampeg. That person was quite correct!...in fact, it's become a problem for me: I can't get the highs out of it that I need. Maybe it's because I don't have a cabinet with a tweeter that will pair with it...I mean, i have a 210/horn cabinet, but that's not enough to gig with because the lows are bonky and it's a 4 ohm cab so it won't pair with my 8 ohm cab for this amp (works with the Hartke though, which accepts a 2 ohm minimum).

The lows and mids are fine... no problem there...but I am cranking the treble up full blast and I think only the dogs hear it. Just not doing it for me there.
 
#240
What cabinet is that, specifically? How high is that cabinet placed. If the cabinet is placed low and close to you, the treble pitched sounds will beam at your legs, not your ears.

Have you tried to run music through the aux in? I have tried that at times, and I do not find it wooly.

I use a Kustom DE 115+210 cab stack with the treble horn engaged only on the top cab (the 210)
 

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