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My MB800 is coming tomorrow, but man did I have a great gig with the RH750 last night. I guess it doesn't hurt to have two amps
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TC RH750 part II
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I've been A/Bing the two amps. They both sound great. Based on my limited time with them, I've noticed the GK is a little more punchy and grindy sounding, something that I've always heard from their amps. The RH750 is a little smoother and old school sounding by comparison.My MB800 is coming tomorrow, but man did I have a great gig with the RH750 last night. I guess it doesn't hurt to have two amps
One of the main reasons I went looking for another amp was that I started noticing that the RH750 had a bit of fuzz around the low end notes. I remember reading something KJung said one time about it being fuzzy on the low notes or something like that. At the time, I didn't understand what he meant, but after spending more time with the RH750, I think I do now. It seems to be when I am trying to do quick, punchy, staccato riffs the response is less articulate than I would like. The MB800 does better for that it seems.
I've got another rehearsal with it tonight and planning on using the MB800 on the gig Friday night. Time will tell, but I am digging the sound slightly more so far. I can tell I miss the built in tuner already though
Lost another knob on my RH750. I've honestly never seen another piece of equipment quite this fragile.
I've been A/Bing the two amps. They both sound great. Based on my limited time with them, I've noticed the GK is a little more punchy and grindy sounding, something that I've always heard from their amps. The RH750 is a little smoother and old school sounding by comparison.
One of the main reasons I went looking for another amp was that I started noticing that the RH750 had a bit of fuzz around the low end notes. I remember reading something KJung said one time about it being fuzzy on the low notes or something like that. At the time, I didn't understand what he meant, but after spending more time with the RH750, I think I do now. It seems to be when I am trying to do quick, punchy, staccato riffs the response is less articulate than I would like. The MB800 does better for that it seems.
I've got another rehearsal with it tonight and planning on using the MB800 on the gig Friday night. Time will tell, but I am digging the sound slightly more so far. I can tell I miss the built in tuner already though
Same experience here. I love the feature set of this amp but that fuzziness in the lows - the lack of punchiness and articulation, especially when playing staccato in the low registers, is something I've really come to dislike.
That last part sums up my reason for moving on from the tc rig. I needed it to be cleaner and punchier at high volume. At the volumes we play the fuzzy bass tone was so not cutting through the way i wanted and there is no OFF with that tone in these rigs no matter how hard i tried.
As I've been waiting for my RH750, I've decided to add a different backup head, rather than keeping my RH450. Events have opened up the opportunity to try a couple of different heads. Now, I've decided to keep trying all that selling and buying/trying will allow. I'm feeling like my eyes (ears) are being opened up a little. I'm a returning player as of a bit over two years ago. After 24 years without, the RH450 makes up the great bulk of my relevant experience and expectations.
A realization that's come more clear is that I have to confess that it's not uncommon for me to feel "out of control" tone wise with the RH450. Sometimes it sounds great. Like Jarrett says, sometimes, "I have a great night" tone wise...everything clicks...the sound is great. But there have been other times where I can't get control over boominess or unwanted overly grindy low tone or just can't quickly get a sound that clicks...in some cases I can't get satisfactory control and just soldier on for the night. I've always said that I'm not a tone maven. I can't necessarily even clearly describe things I like and don't like. I've been thinking that needing to run the RH750 at less of its capacity and the addition of Tweetertone would get me cleaner, fatter, punchier tone, which I believe is what I'd like. This discussion has me worried that as my ears are more open than they were, I'm not going to totally love the RH750.
I first got a GK MB200. The attractions were the price and the ability to easily carry it along with my other gear. I ended up not going with it because of a hiss noise, but I played it out one night and used it at a couple of group practices, and it simply sounded good. Another bass player said it sounded good out in the room, but I didn't really get any other comments.
Next, I got an Ampeg PF-500. I really don't like the looks of it (that shouldn't be a consideration, but it bugs the crap out of me), how it functions for headphone practice, how it doesn't really fit on top of an RS212, and how high I have to set the master, but with the band, this thing also just sounds good. I'll be playing out with it tomorrow, but I've practiced with three different bands that knew the sound of the RH and I got comments from just about everyone on how the PF-500 sounds. I'm thinking of selling it and trying an SVT-7 Pro to get the same basic sound in a more stout package; more power if/when wanted.
A realization that's come more clear is that I have to confess that it's not uncommon for me to feel "out of control" tone wise with the RH450. Sometimes it sounds great. Like Jarrett says, sometimes, "I have a great night" tone wise...everything clicks...the sound is great. But there have been other times where I can't get control over boominess or unwanted overly grindy low tone or just can't quickly get a sound that clicks...in some cases I can't get satisfactory control and just soldier on for the night. I've always said that I'm not a tone maven. I can't necessarily even clearly describe things I like and don't like. I've been thinking that needing to run the RH750 at less of its capacity and the addition of Tweetertone would get me cleaner, fatter, punchier tone, which I believe is what I'd like. This discussion has me worried that as my ears are more open than they were, I'm not going to totally love the RH750.
I first got a GK MB200. The attractions were the price and the ability to easily carry it along with my other gear. I ended up not going with it because of a hiss noise, but I played it out one night and used it at a couple of group practices, and it simply sounded good. Another bass player said it sounded good out in the room, but I didn't really get any other comments.
Next, I got an Ampeg PF-500. I really don't like the looks of it (that shouldn't be a consideration, but it bugs the crap out of me), how it functions for headphone practice, how it doesn't really fit on top of an RS212, and how high I have to set the master, but with the band, this thing also just sounds good. I'll be playing out with it tomorrow, but I've practiced with three different bands that knew the sound of the RH and I got comments from just about everyone on how the PF-500 sounds. I'm thinking of selling it and trying an SVT-7 Pro to get the same basic sound in a more stout package; more power if/when wanted.
Here's a little feedback on the RH750 and GK MB800 from my first gig with the GK this weekend:
At home I had a hard time picking between the two amps, but A/B'ing them on gig was much easier to make a choice, I preferred the GK MB800. Much punchier, rounder, full tone. No fuzz around the low end notes. It was a small difference, but one that I certainly noticed.
At home I had a hard time picking between the two amps, but A/B'ing them on gig was much easier to make a choice, I preferred the GK MB800. Much punchier, rounder, full tone. No fuzz around the low end notes. It was a small difference, but one that I certainly noticed.
Hey guys, I just had a thought about my RH750...
I was wondering if any of you have tried, or can think of any piece of hardware fitting the following statement:
I have an RH750 and a RS212 cabinet, I'm very happy with it, but having tried the RS210 I miss some of the treble, the hi-fi tone, the highs (or whatever you want to call it) that the RS210 had.
On the other hand... I was just considering getting a mini combo, but somewhat powerful enough to do some home practice, sporadic concerts with acoustic guitars and an electric one, and maybe small concerts with a drumkit. So I found the MarkBass Micromark pretty interesting:
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50 or 60 watts of power, and an speaker that can handle 200W (enough for being listened over a drummer).
But then I thought... I already have a very lightweight, versatile and powerful amp, so... all I need is a little speaker/cabinet with power enough for my requirements.
So at this time is when both issues join, all I need is a speaker/cabinet for carrying it for small sessions, practices, and so on, and then on big and power-hungry times all I need is my RS212 with the little cabinet getting the higher tone I am missing from RS210.
So this would remind somewhat to the Fearful cabs... 2x12 + 1x6 or 1x8 + a tweeter.
So... what do you think people?
Is there anywhere what I'm looking for?
I was wondering if any of you have tried, or can think of any piece of hardware fitting the following statement:
I have an RH750 and a RS212 cabinet, I'm very happy with it, but having tried the RS210 I miss some of the treble, the hi-fi tone, the highs (or whatever you want to call it) that the RS210 had.
On the other hand... I was just considering getting a mini combo, but somewhat powerful enough to do some home practice, sporadic concerts with acoustic guitars and an electric one, and maybe small concerts with a drumkit. So I found the MarkBass Micromark pretty interesting:
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50 or 60 watts of power, and an speaker that can handle 200W (enough for being listened over a drummer).
But then I thought... I already have a very lightweight, versatile and powerful amp, so... all I need is a little speaker/cabinet with power enough for my requirements.
So at this time is when both issues join, all I need is a speaker/cabinet for carrying it for small sessions, practices, and so on, and then on big and power-hungry times all I need is my RS212 with the little cabinet getting the higher tone I am missing from RS210.
So this would remind somewhat to the Fearful cabs... 2x12 + 1x6 or 1x8 + a tweeter.
So... what do you think people?
Is there anywhere what I'm looking for?
I actually have a SVT 7 pro Im parting ways with. Im looking into picking up an RH750. I love the 7pro but I bought a BG500210 recently and it took me by surprise. So I'm really considering switching to the RH750. The BG 500 has the tweetertone like the 750 and i really like that feature.
Im thinking of paring it with the 212 to get some good low end and hopefully the parametric eq and tweetertone will let me open up the top end as much as i like. If not I could always add a 210 later. i would be using it with a GK neo 410 at first though.
So let me ask this? You guys that love your 750, you think its a good switch? Knowing that I have a BG500210 and really like it?
People are mentioning a fuzzy lowend, and that's kind of scaring me a bit. Im not sure what you guys mean by that. Anyway thanks
Im thinking of paring it with the 212 to get some good low end and hopefully the parametric eq and tweetertone will let me open up the top end as much as i like. If not I could always add a 210 later. i would be using it with a GK neo 410 at first though.
So let me ask this? You guys that love your 750, you think its a good switch? Knowing that I have a BG500210 and really like it?
People are mentioning a fuzzy lowend, and that's kind of scaring me a bit. Im not sure what you guys mean by that. Anyway thanks
It's logical to think if you like BG500 that you'd like the rh750. I thought the same thing. I had the bg500 combo and got rid of it for Rh750 and a bc210 cab but it didn't sound as good. The bg500 is pretty modern sounding and the rh750 is trying to emulate a tube amp. You can tweak the rh750 and get close to the bg500 but you cant quite get there. I actually just bought a GK mb800 and use it with an SWR Golight 2x10 cab and it gets pretty close to the bg500 2x10 combo but it's about 30lbs lighter.
Thanks Jarrett! maybe I should Just pick up a SWR headlite then. I used to have one with the golight 210s and I loved it. I just always kinda wanted a little more power from it.
I had a MBfusion that i bought new before the svt7pro. It was just really ganky to me. i found myself constantly cutting the high mids almost all the way off to get a slap tone i could tolerate. i love what GK stands for, but im not a big fan of Fleas tone, and to me thats exactly what Gk sounds like.
Thanks for the reply Jarrett
I had a MBfusion that i bought new before the svt7pro. It was just really ganky to me. i found myself constantly cutting the high mids almost all the way off to get a slap tone i could tolerate. i love what GK stands for, but im not a big fan of Fleas tone, and to me thats exactly what Gk sounds like.
Thanks for the reply Jarrett
Oh! Sounds good! thanks!
But it's a little heavy, Micromark weights half of it.
Do you know any other one?
On the other side... would you recommend a 10" or a 6 or 8"?
I've never heard the MicroMark, but I would have to, to try imagine it could keep up with a drummer! Maybe a jazz guy with brushes!
I play in a trio, outdoors, with two acoustic guitars, they use a tiny PA, and my RH450 + RS210 struggles to keep up volume wise.
Indoors, my RH450 with a RS210 + RS212 has no problem keeping up with a loud drummer and no PA support.
I would recommend buying a RS210. They are much easier to carry than the RS212. Then you can choose if you want fat or punchy. And when you need more volume, use them both.
It's finally here! 
Unpacking and playing later. I have practice with the loud band tonight, so no waiting (except for the workday to be over).
Unpacking and playing later. I have practice with the loud band tonight, so no waiting (except for the workday to be over).
Yup, that's what I was planning in a distant future, having a RS210+RS212. But at this moment I'm looking for something ligther and smaller. I already had a RS210 but I changed it for a RS212, they both are similar in weight, I couldn't easily carry it in one hand.
It was just something I stumbled across. Personally, I don't think 23 lbs is "heavy." It is heavier than 10 lbs, but again, personally I wouldn't make the relative weight between to fairly light options the deciding factor.
Also, for me, I don't think a single 10" would cut it with most of the people I play with.
