That's why I have a 4x10

[Mantis Tobaggan]

2 410s are even better

 

[ashtray]

My cab of choice was an SWR 8x8 for many gigging years. We only ran vocals through the PA at the club gigs. I had many an instance where I would be told to turn down bc the bass was shaking all the glasses at the bar on the other side of the room.

(I was running more low frequencies then - before I switched to a less bass-heavy tone. But for that band, my tone was correct - and not talking about cranked up bass knobs or anything, but just not as "clean" as my current sound - ironically, through a 4x10 Epifani cab of choice.)

 

[pbass2]

Man, I'll go with the lightest, easiest to schlepp rig I can get away with, in any situation. I've been rocking a 1x12 for a while now and it's been rare when that's not sufficient. Have another 12" ext cab and never use it. If it's such a small gig that the bass and drums aren't in the house/monitors then I certainly don't need a bigger rig for that.
Ultimately my preference is backline--I don't care what it is as long as it's decent--then it's just bass/pedals/DI and I know my sound is getting out there.

 

[Jrussblues]

I have a 410 that I stack on top of a 115, I only plug in the 410. 1, for volumes sake 2, because a 410 just hits.

 

[wjl]

My personal experience is that it's best to leave as much as I can to monitors. Why? Well, loud bass amp onstage is one source of sound - loud for people near, not loud enough for people further away.

Then your experience differs from mine. I've had an SVT with two 8x10 "fridges" rig, and whenever I set the amp so that we on stage were happy with it, people 50ft further away from stage were falling like flies (and complaining about the bass being too loud). Exactly the opposite of what you say.

Ampeg 8x10 for just about everything, 1 or 2 15"s for small rooms. The soundman likes them incidentally.

That sounds like a valid choice. I've recently heard Snarky Puppy around here, and Michael brought his Markbass "Casa" amp (which looks like a Music Man 500), and an 8x10 cab. I was in the third row, and the bass was fine. The P.A. system from the side was too loud, especially the higher frequencies.

I wouldn't be afraid to schlepp Ampeg or Markbass rigs again, but I don't plan on giggin' that big. And as a small stage monitor or in smaller clubs & bars, these newer 1x15 or 1x12 or 2x12 combos are just fine.

Cheers,
Wolfgang

 

[DWBass]

Have you seen some of the 4x10's out there? They are pretty small. Saw an Avatar once. Thought it was a 2x10 or 2x12. Nope 4x10. Gig what you like.

 

[JGbassman]

I gig every weekend with either a 410, a 212 or a combination of both. It's not necessarily to be loud, but the more speakers move the air so I can hear better. I became very used to the almost perfect mix only found using a good set of multiple driver ears and a monitor mix I could set myself.

Now I work with old school wedges, and wear ear plugs. The multiple speakers allow me to hear better without being overly loud.

I'm not young by any means but still find a way to hump the gear I want to use to play at my best. Everything else is just a compromise.

 

[Charlzm]

This last weekend we played a festival in Michigan. The opening band was energetic. Pretty aggressive and well practiced. Bass player used a Lakland 5'er through a Hartke combo. Single 15 I believe. As they were loading off stage, I uncased my DNA DNS-410 and my DNA 1350 head. As I lugged that HUGE cab up the stairs (yup, no ramp) I heard the bassist say - "See that's why you don't buy a 4x10". Fast forward to sound check. We generally have only vocals in our monitors because we, as a band, can hear each other on most all stages. Our monitor engineer thought it was very strange, but that is what we do. Done with our set, the sound engineer comes over to me and says - "Wow, I see why you only need vocals in your monitors" and my response was "That is why I use a 4x10"
Maybe a little pretentious?? A little egotistical? But we had a good set. Sound was great. Audience had a good time. Just wanted to share a story from the road..

I have Invalid Link Removed. I haven't yet had a situation where it was inadequate to the task of making enough sound to be heard. It does weigh 90 pounds, though, so I put heavy duty casters on it.

 

[mcrawfordmusic]

I always prefer the sound of my Berg HD410 when I play a gig with it but I'm reminded why my HT112ER gets most of my gigs when it comes time to load out after a 3+ hour gig. The 112 is plenty for small (-100 people) with no PA but anything more and it's DI or the 410.

 

[mc900ftj]

Still need more than vocals in my monitor...

 

[Bassmaticmatt]

And that's whit I hit the gym. Carrying a 410 is no great feat for me. And I'm in my mid 30's.

 

[Tim Skaggs]

I saw a couple bands at an outdoor street dance last week. The bassist in the first band had an Orange 212 combo (Isovent, looks like a 112) sitting on top of an Orange 410. The amp in the 212 combo is an Orange 500 watt when run into its internal speakers & the 410. It took the bassist three trips to get all his gear on stage, with help on the 410. Sounded ok, not a great tone, and a little too loud & midrangy. I knew the sound man, so I suggested he turn down the bass a little. He just grinned and put his finger on the bass channel slider which was obviously all the way down.

Next band, the bassist walks on stage with his ax in a gig bag on one shoulder & a tiny, vertically oriented 210 in the other hand. He slides some kind of class "D" amp out of the front pouch of his gig bag, and a couple cords & pedals out of the rear pouch of the gig bag. He set it all up in about 45 seconds. In another 45 seconds, the sound man had a great bass tone in the mains.

I don't know what either band had in the monitor mix, but I certainly enjoyed the main mix of band #2.

 

[Deleted member 261632]

Depending on the size of the gig/stage, I'll just bring out a 2x10, a 4x10, nothing at all or the full rig (2x10 and 4x10 coupled).

 

[Stumbo]

I have Invalid Link Removed. I haven't yet had a situation where it was inadequate to the task of making enough sound to be heard. It does weigh 90 pounds, though, so I put heavy duty casters on it.

Trace Elliots from what I've heard, sound full and carry really well. I heard a 1x15 like yours with a Jazz bass and I still remember it as if was yesterday. Great tone!

 

[Mosfed]

Get a Barefaced and you can have all the size that you want with the weight you need. I am not a super strong dude and I can lift my 810 with one hand without much of an issue. I can do a one trip loadin with my 69'er.

 

[bertthebassist]

At 52 lbs, I like my Revsound RS215. Nice deep bottom and full sound. For smaller jobs I have my RS115, only 28 lbs.

 

[Blue_Whistle88]

So what you're saying is, you use a 4x10 so that you don't have to use a PA monitor system that someone else hauled to the gig? Is that right?

 

[iriegnome]

These guys were in their 20's i would assume. Me, however am much older

 

[dbase]

Had the 10's, the 15's, now with the 12's .. I like this arrangement for now.. 30 lbs each and loud enough that the guitar player asks me to turn down.

 

[OnePluck@aTime]

10's are the way to go. I use GK 210 for most gigs, extremely lightweight. My 1001rb pushes a Trace 210 or/and a Neo 410, depending on the venue.