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The Aviation Enthusiasts Thread!

I'm a classic fighter plane fan myself. My favs are the P-51 Mustang, Supermarine Spitfire, P-38 Lightning, and, going further back, the Fokker Triplane of Red Baron fame, and the Sopwith Camel of Snoopy fame! The Focke-Wolf FW-190, with its BMW radial engine, was a helluva fighter in its own right!

Same here, at least I lean towards more WWII classics, I do love jets as well. My favorites are the Hawker Tempest V, Spitfire, Corsair, Thunderbolt, and the FW-190D. As far as jets go, the Harrier, Su-27, and F-15.

Have you ever heard a F4u Corsair or P-47 at full throttle? A P-51's/Spit's Merlin sounds like music, but that big-assed ol' radial? Oh man, THAT'S just pure raw power.

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I saw a Sea Fury a couple of years back that would give either one a run for the money as far as engine power. ;)
 
I'm not always enthused about it but I'm a pilot. My dad was a pilot and ran a small airport so I grew up in it. I love the old stuff. I was actually disappointed when, in 6th grade, I realized the military wasn't flying P51s and Corsairs anymore.

Here's my photo contribution. It was the Silver Eagles U.S. army helicopter team that toured for a brief time in the 70s. They put on an awesome show, in some ways much better than the jet teams today because they had the ability to keep it in tight all the time.

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They had one helicopter fixed up like a clown called Bozo. They treated him like a pet. He'd keep the crowd entertained while the team prepared for different maneuvers. He would push a huge ball around the airport and had a giant yo yo. This is the best picture I could find.

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And the team that came to Dalton in 75. Great bunch of guys. All Vietnam combat veterans.

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Your's truly, doing the thing in Iraq:
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That's kinda hot. Just sayin. ;)
 
I was in the Navy for a little while. I was supposed to be an Aviation Mechanic. But as far as I got before getting the boot was a Plane Captain (the people who do the hand signals launching and catching, making sure everything is functional before flight, turnarounds, washing of the jets, fueling and basic maintenance) on F/A-18's. I was qualed for Super Hornets and Legacys. Oh yah, and chaining them down at night good times. Plenty of late night kitty litter clean ups too.

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These things leaked like hell.


When I was a kid I was in love with the F-15. Got to see a few up close when I was stationed at Top Gun, among a few other jets. Scrawny landing gear on those F-15s, but they were tall. Beats tearing up your knees underneath those F-18s

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Jets are cool, I'll admit. They're blindingly fast and loud as hell - in an annoyingly high pitched kind of way. They can run on cheap kerosene instead of expensive AvGas and definitely have a certain aesthetic charm of their own

Not as cool to my taste as a Golden Age aircraft like the Gee Bee, though

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Go ahead.... I defy you to tell me that is not one Very Cool airplane :p

But aesthetics aside, nothing........NOTHING in the world sounds as cool as a Big piston engine

Jet engines are the auditory equivalent of that wheedly-whee guitard with the state-of-the-art boutique amps and pedal collection that still somehow can only manage to produce 45 variations on painful icepick tone. The guy that's also incapable of playing anything other than
clouds of pentatonic gnat-notes that don't amount to ****

Big piston engines are all about the bass end of the sonic spectrum. One major reason Harley-Davidson motorcycles are still so popular, despite being 'stone age' technology, is because they have that low-frequency thump going on that Ricky Racer and his Really Radical Riceburner can never touch with a ten foot pole

An 80" Harley motor has a piston roughly 3.5" across (technically, bore size), give or take a couple of thousandths

The most over-the-top 100" Harley stroker motor has pistons that measure right around 4"

A Big Block Chevy motor has pistons averaging about 4.5"

The bore size of the most common aircraft radial engines back in their heyday - Wright Cyclone, Pratt & Whitney Wasp, Bristol Hercules - started at about 5.5" and certain variants of those engines got pretty close to 6" bore........ Aircraft radials generally have a minimum of 7 cylinders, 9 cylinder single row types were once common as dirt, and double-row variations like the P&W Twin Wasp were made (and flown) by the tens of thousands. Water-cooled piston aircraft engines in their heyday usually had 12 cylinders, with similar sized bores, and some oddball variations had 24 cylinders or more

What that means in terms of audio output is that your garden variety piston aircraft engine - say a P&W Wasp or a Rolls Royce/Packard Merlin- is barking out more low frequency sonic bliss with one turn of the crankshaft than two of the Biggest Baddest Big Blocks ever built, or alternately, four full-tilt Harley stroker motors parked next to each other and all running at once. There are a few remarkably open-minded bikers out there that have figured this out for themselves and built accordingly :D

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Nevertheless, the sheer physical limitations of shoehorning even an itty-bitty radial like the Rotec 2800 (@ only 172 cubic inches :help:) shown in the above pic mean that this admittedly Very cool bike can never compete in the sonic sweepstakes with even a relatively "small" aircraft engine like the Wright Cyclones that powered the famous B-17 bomber of WW2, or the superb Rolls Royce/Packard Merlin that powered the Supermarine Spitfire and P-51 Mustang

And neither can a jet of any description

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I totally agree with age being a massive limitation. My truest passion is aerospace medicine and will be my career track now as I go back to school. Everything you said is, to my understanding, totally correct. Jan Collmer is 77 (I think?), and although he flies his Extra beautifully, it always makes me nervous when I see him flying! There is a reason that the AF, Army, etc etc have age limitations for pilots entering flight school. It would probably be a good idea to establish age restrictions in stunt flying and racing as well.

Thank you, KillerNeuron. ;)

Mike
 
A picture I took of my very favourite plane at Hendon (though I'd pick an FB.VI over any bomber variant...):
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I agree with you, Ed, that the Mosquito was a great plane, and is one of my favorites.

And to think that it almost didn't make it into production, because of it's wooden construction, and unarmed bomber philosophy.

A couple of Mosquito links:
De Havilland Mosquito - Great Britain

The de Havilland Mosquito Page

And, the best Mosquito movie ever made, in my opinion, 633 Squadron! The scenes of the real planes flying that is, not the 1/48 models crashing into studio scenery cliffs! :D
633 Squadron - Trailer. - YouTube

Sadly, the star, Cliff Robertson died a few weeks ago.

Mike
P.S. I also think the theme music of this movie is more inspiring than the theme music from the movie, Rocky.
 
My other guess then would be Polish. They had designed a more modern plane right before WW2, but it never went into production. The radial cowling kind of looks the same.

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EDIT. Nah...probably not... here's a pic of a captured (half completed) one:

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quick diagram:
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