The BIGGEST douche move onstage is...

[rude_basstard]

You can't really go asking a mod to step in after breaking several rules yourself, a la: the S word and douche.

I believe he was bringing the double standard to light in order to imply that SH|T should also be acceptable language.

 

[GlennW]

If you read the forum rules you'll find that ALL letters in inappropriate words need to be replaced with a symbol.

Here it is, Rule #2:
Because this forum is viewed by bassists of all ages, all posts must be suitable for viewing by minors. All profanity must be completely covered with asterisks, completely substituted with "@%$#" symbols. Better yet, leave it out. Any use of creative lettering or partially masked profanity is not allowed. Obscene material is not permitted, nor are links to websites containing such material or anything deemed inappropriate for minors. If what you have to say wouldn't be suited for network TV, don't post it here.

 

[xk49w]

What about a white guy from Baltimore using a fake Jamaican accent while fronting a reggae band? They were a phenominal band, I didn't think he needed to use it while talking between songs.

I was doing a gig when the BL started talking to the audience in a Jamaican-esque accent. That was bad enough, but the audience was the local Carribean American Club. I found that experience to be quite cringe-worthy.

 

[xUptheIronsx]

I’ve already commented a couple times on this thread, mostly for humor and bringing up different examples that fit the OP’s description of what is “douche.” More serious for a minute after givin it more thought my opinion is this:
1. It was already mentioned that “douche is the new “@$$H0L3” what does it say about our society that we consider an object that cleans female genitalia to be a more degrading term than calling someone a donkey’s anus? Why does it have to be about gender? Just like calling someone a pu$$y, it’s sexist isn’t it? Am I the only one who thinks so?
2. Wearing sandals, shorts, or sunglasses to an indoor bar show might come off a bit “frat boy-ish” but I never really thought of it, or Hawian shirts, as being a “douche” move, and for outdoor shows in warm climates it seems common enough as others have stated.
The way you dress isn’t “douche” or “@$$H0L3ish” or “dickish” Axel Rose is! More specifically, not respecting and appreciating your audience is what is. Don't cancel shows for no reason, don't go on late and make the audience wait, don't overcharge ticket prices, etc. I was in a band where we were given tickets to sell we were supposed to sell tickets for $10and the club got $5 from each ticket. I found this rediculous because we were not a known band, it was one of our first shows, it was a crappy little dive bar etc. $10 was too much for this show in my oppinion, so I just sold the tickets for $5 and gave it all to the club and played for free. Then when we got to the bar noone was watching the door anyway so you didn't even need a ticket to get in really. But the guitarist and drummer sold their tickets for $10 to all their friends and family that came out. That is "douche" not what you wear.

yeah, for me, it is not how you look, but more of how you act and interact with the scene/fans. I persoanlly would never wear a Hawiian shirt for any reason, but I don't care if anotehr guy does. I grew up in the early/mid 80's watching badns like Anthrax, SOD etc, who would just go up on stage and have fun. I still have my Jams (the equivalent to Hawwian shirts in shorts) and would wear them onstage in a second if they still fit...

For me, the biggest douche moves are:
1. having the bands sell tickets to a show
- any and all of the bullspit that happens when you don't sell the outrageous number of tickets they expect you to
2. bands that load in while other bands are playing
3. bands that load out while other bands are playing
4. bands that don't stay to watch the other bands
5. when above mentioned bands call or e mail weeks later looking for their cut of the door
6. bands that don't get their stuff off the stage in a timely fashion in between sets....talk to your groupies later

I know that I am in for a night of "suck" (based my own non-scientific personal research on this over the past 20 years) when I see:
1. low slung bass
2. Tap Out attire
3. a band name with more than 2 words, or the words "burning" and a month of the year in them
4. 6 or more strings on a bass
5. a merch layout that fills it's own trailer
6. fuzz or distortion pedals between the bass and the bass amp
7. 200 lbs of groupie stuffed into a 90lb bag
8. a legion of "roadies" hauling in equipment...to a 50 capacity dive bar
9. girl pants on guys
10. shots headed to the stage...for the 40th time
11. faux-hawks
12. Hollister shirts

 

[macrocheesium]

If what you have to say wouldn't be suited for network TV, don't post it here.

FWIW you can say S*** on TV now.

 

[Max Bogosity]

When the guitar player literally pushes you out of the way so he can run to center stage because oh man someone might miss my solo.

That can be ok if it's done in the right spirit. I saw Chris Isaak the other day and he and his lead guitarist kept fighting to stand in front of each other during solos. They were obviously having fun with it.

 

[cheezewiz]

Gigging in shorts douchey? Nah, I do it all the time. Then again, maybe I'm a douche. Shirtless on stage? DEFINITELY douchey.

 

[petrus61]

Affliction or any "Coutre" or TapOut shirts.

 

[Ric5]

The BIGGEST douche move onstage is...

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The entire music business is nothing but one huge douche ... We form a band and get up on stage and cop a pretentious attitude and get cocky in front of a bunch of drunks at some dive bar. And all of the semi-talented "artists" who think they have something important to say. ... what a joke ... and even those who are successful usually their personal lives are train wrecks. DOUCHE big time ...

BTW

I had to recently explain to my young adult daughters the origin of "douche" and why that word is an insult. I wonder if everyone here even knows that or especially those who aren't from the USA and don't know our idioms. It is sort of like how "bloody" is a swear word in the UK. The origin of that idiom is also lost on a lot of young people.

 

[GlennW]

The sad truth is we live on Planet Douche.

Doucheness is not limited to musicians.

To paraphrase Firesign Theater, "We're all douches in this bowl."

 

[petrus61]

The BIGGEST douche move onstage is...

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The entire music business is nothing but one huge douche ... We form a band and get up on stage and cop a pretentious attitude and get cocky in front of a bunch of drunks at some dive bar. And all of the semi-talented "artists" who think they have something important to say. ... what a joke ... and even those who are successful usually their personal lives are train wrecks. DOUCHE big time ...

BTW

I had to recently explain to my young adult daughters the origin of "douche" and why that word is an insult. I wonder if everyone here even knows that or especially those who aren't from the USA and don't know our idioms. It is sort of like how "bloody" is a swear word in the UK. The origin of that idiom is also lost on a lot of young people.

True. Douche was on par with the big "C" word in my house growing up and is still today in my own home. It's part of the small lexicon of swear words that would have earned me a smack in the mouth or a little soap in my gums.

 

[SaucyJackBass]

Unused guitar in a stand on stage? Isn't that called a backup?

What Good is a backup behind the stage in a case? I've had trouble with a bass on stage and made the switch and finished the song. I'm not saying it wasn't notable, but if done right, keeps the show momentum going.

 

[will33]

The usual contenders, music stands, shades, various hats, long coats, no shirts, flip-flops, shorts, Hawaiian shirts, bare feet, unused guitars in stands, wearing your band's logo, empty speaker cabs, and many more ALL come up short in doucheitivity when put up against the fake English accent.

Wow....you must be really boring.

 

[will33]

If you read the forum rules you'll find that ALL letters in inappropriate words need to be replaced with a symbol.

Here it is, Rule #2:
Because this forum is viewed by bassists of all ages, all posts must be suitable for viewing by minors. All profanity must be completely covered with asterisks, completely substituted with "@%$#" symbols. Better yet, leave it out. Any use of creative lettering or partially masked profanity is not allowed. Obscene material is not permitted, nor are links to websites containing such material or anything deemed inappropriate for minors. If what you have to say wouldn't be suited for network TV, don't post it here.

So calling someone a femanine hygiene product is OK but calling them a $#!+head is not......OK...got it.

 

[will33]

What about pantyliners? Those are there to keep the $#!+ from staining their underwear. So, I suppose it's totally OK to call someone a pantylinerhead, or a douchebag...right?

I propose it's at least as offensive, probably more, to at least half the population to go around calling people a "douche". Fortunately for you, apparently that isn't covered in the rules you so like to quote.

 

[Thrust Meatnozl]

Is the fun spoiled yet??????????????

 

[GlennW]

So calling someone a femanine hygiene product is OK but calling them a $#!+head is not......OK...got it.

In the parlance of our times, yes.

 

[grey area]

the word is associated with the word shower here in euroland.i now live in spain and the folks here are a lot less uptight about swearing than in the UK or the US. we do have a bit of a smile at some of the ways the old guard see thing in the states. i think it was the 70s before american films could show even squeaky clean married couples sleeping in the same bed and its expected that presidents pasts contain no trace of SCANDAL.however the differences are what makes this world fun and interesting.VIVA LA DIFERENCIA!!!!!!

 

[Skeeter1]

This brings up a good point, what about that fake twangy country thing. Its not quite an accent, maybe its just a "country draw" but the reason I have always disliked certain country was the artists who sang with that fake Hank Williams twangy Nashville vocals. This is the reason I can stand "She and Him" Zooey has a great voice, and I enjoyed her singing in Elf, but when she sings in her band it has that country sound that I can't stand. Bob Dylan dosen't have it but he did on Nashville Skyline. I don't think anyone naturally sings like that. This is why Johnny Cash was the greatest country singer, he wasn't fake! What do you guys think? Does that country thing bother anyone else? Is it as bad as a fake Brit accent?

Hail far wut chew talkin bout. Choot, y'all mean that some u dem dar country music stars ain't from the country a'tall? Hail they ain't even old timey.

On a separate note I am still in search of a place in the world whether ladies think my deep southern drawl is sexy. Still looking,,,,,,,,,still,looking,,,,.

 

[GlennW]

On a separate note I am still in search of a place in the world whether ladies think my deep southern drawl is sexy. Still looking,,,,,,,,,still,looking,,,,.

Go west young man, go west.