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The BIGGEST douche move onstage is...
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When I was a teenager in the 80's I was in a band for awhile with a turdgobbler like that. Midwestern middle class kid with the slight farmer twang who would magically transform onstage into a bad parody of whatever he thought was an English accent. The Cure, Bauhaus, XTC, The Smiths, etc. were his favorite bands and I liked a lot of those bands too but he took it a little far in his emulation. Like fingers on the chalkboard. He swore up and down he did it because that's what people wanted to hear and it would help get us a record deal. LOL. I never got along too much with him. He was a great drummer and a lousy, and I mean lousy lead singer/guitar player which is what he really wanted to do.
This brings up a good point, what about that fake twangy country thing. Its not quite an accent, maybe its just a "country draw" but the reason I have always disliked certain country was the artists who sang with that fake Hank Williams twangy Nashville vocals. This is the reason I can stand "She and Him" Zooey has a great voice, and I enjoyed her singing in Elf, but when she sings in her band it has that country sound that I can't stand. Bob Dylan dosen't have it but he did on Nashville Skyline. I don't think anyone naturally sings like that. This is why Johnny Cash was the greatest country singer, he wasn't fake! What do you guys think? Does that country thing bother anyone else? Is it as bad as a fake Brit accent?
Yeah it bothers me as much as a fake Brit accent, probably more since the fashion for a fake Brit accent died years ago but hair band rock... er... sorry I mean modern country is still using fake accents. There are however, some people that truly do talk like that, so the country drawl is natural. Not many of 'em on the country charts though.
Fake accents aside.....
I saw someone pull what I would consider the biggest douche move ever. A couple months ago I was checking out a friend's band, they were playing at a place my band has played a few times. While not really an "open mic", the venue expects the band to allow "certain" people to get up and play a song or two. We've done it, generally it's okay and pretty low key (Country bar). Usually the same crowd of people there.
So this guy gets up on stage, a guitarist/singer, and asks the band to do "Guitars/Cadillacs". They get rolling and about 3 measures in, he stops playing and says "stop....stop...stop....". He turns around, looks at the drummer, and tells him that he's not playing the right beat. The drummer kinda plays a little rat-a-tat-tat, and they start up again. Same thing. At about the same point, he stops the band again, looks at the drummer and tells him he's playing the wrong beat, but this time is sorta making hand movements and doing the whole "boom boom boom" thing with his mouth. Take #3 goes the same way. Now....take #4...the singer guitard guy seems to like this version as it starts and says something into the mic about "well I guess he got it right this time"........ At this point I'm cringing in my seat feeling bad for the guys on stage, who appeared irritated.
And this was a band that has this song as part of their standard setlist, and they do it pretty darn well.
I thought that was pretty douchey.
I saw someone pull what I would consider the biggest douche move ever. A couple months ago I was checking out a friend's band, they were playing at a place my band has played a few times. While not really an "open mic", the venue expects the band to allow "certain" people to get up and play a song or two. We've done it, generally it's okay and pretty low key (Country bar). Usually the same crowd of people there.
So this guy gets up on stage, a guitarist/singer, and asks the band to do "Guitars/Cadillacs". They get rolling and about 3 measures in, he stops playing and says "stop....stop...stop....". He turns around, looks at the drummer, and tells him that he's not playing the right beat. The drummer kinda plays a little rat-a-tat-tat, and they start up again. Same thing. At about the same point, he stops the band again, looks at the drummer and tells him he's playing the wrong beat, but this time is sorta making hand movements and doing the whole "boom boom boom" thing with his mouth. Take #3 goes the same way. Now....take #4...the singer guitard guy seems to like this version as it starts and says something into the mic about "well I guess he got it right this time"........ At this point I'm cringing in my seat feeling bad for the guys on stage, who appeared irritated.
And this was a band that has this song as part of their standard setlist, and they do it pretty darn well.
I thought that was pretty douchey.
Yes. It was a criticism our singer took in my last band. We were a Country band and he would often try to mimic the southern twang or drawl in the songs and at times it was really, really bad. You could tell it was fake and we took a lot of heat for it. He did drop the accent and things went much better.
Being a big fan of everything fake, I'll say that sometimes a fake accent is a must. I once heard a Mexican band do "Una mas cerveza" and pronounce the lyrics of the hook correctly. I guess it still works as a song, but it's not the same. I mean, the whole point is that it's about not learning any Spanish other than how to order more beer. That kind of special case is rare, though.
I work with a singer who's learned proper Spanish in school, though, and I think she sounds a bit funny always clearly pronouncing the letter "s" in reggaeton tracks, especially at the ends of words. This is how the original sounds, for comparison. But I don't think it's a big enough deal that she needs to fake a Puerto Rican accent - it would just sound a tiny bit better.
Also, she does sound sort of British when doing Nicki Minaj songs, but that doesn't bother me at all. In that case the effect is just sort of cute.
I work with a singer who's learned proper Spanish in school, though, and I think she sounds a bit funny always clearly pronouncing the letter "s" in reggaeton tracks, especially at the ends of words. This is how the original sounds, for comparison. But I don't think it's a big enough deal that she needs to fake a Puerto Rican accent - it would just sound a tiny bit better.
Also, she does sound sort of British when doing Nicki Minaj songs, but that doesn't bother me at all. In that case the effect is just sort of cute.
Biggest?
Right. .... We had a corporate gig at a winery we'd played at many times. Our (former) drummer was known to have a bit of a short fuse but We'd not had any real probs.
We were told dinner was supplied this night- a bonus imo. After set up, sound check etc we have an hour or so to fill- this place is out in the sticks so we usually hang around, but dinner was coming so we looked thru the menu.
Looking at the a' la carte' menu we were considering what delicious meal to get (for free). Then a waitress comes over & gives us a 'pizza menu' and says we can pick from this.
Ok, a bit of a downer, but not a problem. The pizza's were ranging from trad Italian to 'gourmet' local ingredients. Atlantic Salmon, local cheeses & meats. A nice choice really AND it was free!!!
Now as we'd been previously lusting over the full menu, we had a few li'l QUIET & private jokes about being 'muso's & so only "good enough" for the "pizza menu".
All in fun & we were cackling
So. ..fwd to the gig. ..
After our meal, which was very good, we get up to play 1st set -Jazz & quiet dinner type stuff. After the 1st song, or guitard took an extra few seconds between songs to do something, & our lead singer jokingly said to the rather friendly & talkative crowd, "well, time for a joke".... The drummer, who unbeknownst to us had been privately seething about not being "allowed" the full menu, pipes up rather loudly-
"I know a good joke," (then SHOUTS) "PIZZA!!!" Them threw a drum stick onto the dance floor.
:what:
The crowd all looked on., shocked. We were mortified as WE knew what he meant. I don't know whether the management heard, but they Probly heard later if not.
We tried to cover up as much as possible then carried on as professionally as possible.
We did sack that drummer very soon after. Shame, Co he's a VERY good drummer. :thumbdown:
Right. .... We had a corporate gig at a winery we'd played at many times. Our (former) drummer was known to have a bit of a short fuse but We'd not had any real probs.
We were told dinner was supplied this night- a bonus imo. After set up, sound check etc we have an hour or so to fill- this place is out in the sticks so we usually hang around, but dinner was coming so we looked thru the menu.
Looking at the a' la carte' menu we were considering what delicious meal to get (for free). Then a waitress comes over & gives us a 'pizza menu' and says we can pick from this.
Ok, a bit of a downer, but not a problem. The pizza's were ranging from trad Italian to 'gourmet' local ingredients. Atlantic Salmon, local cheeses & meats. A nice choice really AND it was free!!!
Now as we'd been previously lusting over the full menu, we had a few li'l QUIET & private jokes about being 'muso's & so only "good enough" for the "pizza menu".
All in fun & we were cackling
So. ..fwd to the gig. ..
After our meal, which was very good, we get up to play 1st set -Jazz & quiet dinner type stuff. After the 1st song, or guitard took an extra few seconds between songs to do something, & our lead singer jokingly said to the rather friendly & talkative crowd, "well, time for a joke".... The drummer, who unbeknownst to us had been privately seething about not being "allowed" the full menu, pipes up rather loudly-
"I know a good joke," (then SHOUTS) "PIZZA!!!" Them threw a drum stick onto the dance floor.
:what:The crowd all looked on., shocked. We were mortified as WE knew what he meant. I don't know whether the management heard, but they Probly heard later if not.
We tried to cover up as much as possible then carried on as professionally as possible.
We did sack that drummer very soon after. Shame, Co he's a VERY good drummer. :thumbdown:
When I was a teenager in the 80's I was in a band for awhile with a turdgobbler like that. Midwestern middle class kid with the slight farmer twang who would magically transform onstage into a bad parody of whatever he thought was an English accent. The Cure, Bauhaus, XTC, The Smiths, etc. were his favorite bands and I liked a lot of those bands too but he took it a little far in his emulation. Like fingers on the chalkboard. He swore up and down he did it because that's what people wanted to hear and it would help get us a record deal. LOL. I never got along too much with him. He was a great drummer and a lousy, and I mean lousy lead singer/guitar player which is what he really wanted to do.
So, what kind of record deal did you get?
I don't get the doucheness of wearing shorts/flip flops at times. Here in south Louisiana, that attire at an outdoor gig is simply a matter of survival! 
If I had a girlfriend who talked like Emma Watson, I'd ask her to talk to me all day long!
If I had a girlfriend who talked like Emma Watson, I'd ask her to talk to me all day long!
The musicians at my church wear shorts half the time. Doesn't change anything as far as I can tell.
because Americans are anglophiles! i know i am. English culture is huge with a LOT of people here. doctor who, downton abbey, harry potter, top gear, gordon ramsey...literally everyone loves those things. the various British accents sound cool to us so we imitate them sometimes
because Americans are anglophiles! i know i am. English culture is huge with a LOT of people here. doctor who, downton abbey, harry potter, top gear, gordon ramsey...literally everyone loves those things. the various British accents sound cool to us so we imitate them sometimes
No I don't (in my actual voice). I enjoy most of the shows you listed but don't feel the need to emulate the dialect.
