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The Combo Club

What I see from reading TB is players who grew up reading treble clef seldom bother with bass clef charts. Either they learned to read both from playing piano, or (just as often) forgot how to read bass clef and never bothered to re-learn. Then we have folks like me who forgot how to read treble clef and never bothered to re-learn :D
I go back and forth between clefs. I learned treble clef for accordion as a young kid. Switching to clarinet and sax kept me in treble until I tried bassoon (bass clef) for a while. The music I played on bass was all by ear and from chord charts. Long story short, I was away from music for a couple decades and when I resumed playing bass I decided to relearn reading bass clef. It’s coming along but I’ll not live long enough to sight read.
 
Wow. Thought I was gone for less than 24 hours. Had three pages of posts to read to catch up. I remember trying to learn to read music in 5th grade. I was playin C Melody sax. Teach gave me Oboe music, she was feared by all but knew her stuff. Never really learned it, but yet another bass player that started on Sax....
We drove 7 hours from San Miguel de Allende to Barra de Potosi today. Temps now at 7:35 pm 80 F and humidity around 80%. Beach! But we are used to 35% humidity, I am a puddle.
 
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Just that ye may see just how a Phil Jones BG-400 combo stacks up against a real human being, there is this previously unpublished photo from my shoot.

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That's a full 350 watts driving four 5 inch Piranha speakers. Whatever that means. All the math guys in the world are hard pressed to explain why it works so bloody well. I don't know why it works so well. It's deep and it's loud. Deceptive that way, too, because the gain and volume pots are useful through their entire range.

I'm "back at it" in retirement. Took a normal music education as a child with piano and saxophone. Finished university and took a year at music school. And saw to a life, and a career, and here now fresh out of Ari Cap's Music Theory for the Bass Player 2020 cohort. Returning for the 21 cohort and anticipate my time spent during the Thing That's Going Around will have its fair returns.

How does it work? Space alien magic, the same stuff Bose 800 and 901 series speakers use. Probably Chitauri tech.

oh, and love the pic!
 
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Treble is just engrained in my mind - learned it real well BEFORE the days of sex, drugs and rock and roll! :woot:

I play bass by ear - let me hear it a few times and I can just about nail it!

we learned TC in 4th(?) grade music (singing) class. Summer before 6th grade I took up trombone and it was all BC for me until high school when I also started learning guitar. I can still tead both but nowhere near as quick as I used to. Now it’s mostly tab, chord charts, Nashville, whatever.
 
Stacks of combos? Kind of defeats the intended purpose of a portable amplification solution doesn't it? Of course, with the MB212 combo i have, I'll never need to stack anything to get the volume i need to "wet my pants". :thumbsup:

Another wonderful night at work. Three weeks now since my last day off. Bad weather caused a power outage here earlier today and the 25 year old computers that run our machines didn't like that one bit. Still dealing with issues including no network connection to the outside. Posting this with my phone. Gonna be a looooooong night.:rollno::bawl:

To some, Biggie, stacks of combos are what they dream at night about. Now, hauling said combos to and from may be another issue, but having them sitting snuggly in your abode...what could be better but more?

Here's hoping you get a well-deserved night off and soon. All us working stiffs could use a few of them!
 
Sorry in advance for the long post, everyone.

Thanks, FL!

So your rig is the Fender Rumble 800 and extension?
...and what are the details on that Fender P?

Yep. Instead of adding a 210 ext cab, I decided to go with a 115 in order to pair it up with my Orange Terror Bass amp. I'm not intimidated by running the Stage 800 with it either. Sounds fairly robust if I do say so myself.


I bought my first rig before I needed it and guessed pretty well what I would need. The head with two cabs served me really well. It sounded great and was super loud, but the truth was that I almost never needed the second cab. I thought about getting a second head and stand so I could set up a second rig at the practice space and keep one at home, but I decided to sell one of the cabs and just use the head and a single 115...which is what brought me to the 150 watt 115 combo.

This was great...except one time. I was playing outside at a party and we were having PA problems. For the most part, me and the two guitar players made up the difference with our amps. One had a 4 x 12 stack so no worries there, he put his amp behind the drummer so the drummer and everyone else could hear. The second guitar player had a small but powerful combo and had picked out a very appropriate stand so it was head height-and also happened to be aimed at the drummer. I rocked my BA115 into wedge position, aimed it at my face like I always do and blasted away all night!
The problem was that the drummer couldn't hear me. I didn't find out until later and had no idea because I could hear myself fine.
If I had it to do over again, I would take this double stack and put it behind the drummer like the guitar player with the 4 x 12. Having played that gig and having played my double BA115 rig, I am very confident that setup would have worked like a charm...and given me as close to the experience of an Ampeg stack as I'll ever realistically need. :D

I'd agree with your premise. That, plus this is why many drummers end up with major hearing loss in their old age. Too many amps pointed at them!

At one point I also played an outdoor festival.
HUGE PA. BIG field.
maybe twenty people...all our friends...huddled as far away from the PA speakers as they could be without being rude or unsupportive.
There was an 8 x 10" backline provided and it was GLORIOUS. However, if I had been required to provide my own amplification, I'm confident that this double BA115 stack would have worked.

So the moral of the story is that, in the gigs that I actually played (as opposed to the ones in my head) I really only could have used a stack two times. However, it would have been consistently convenient for me to have a second rig to leave at the drummer's house so I only had to tote a bass to practice.

However, I am a very low level hobbiest bass player.
YMMV as they say.

As I'm sure most of us are, AH. Like you, I've only had a few excuses to have to use something more than a single cab combo or separates, but isn't it fun to have that extra oomph when called upon? Like RR said a few days ago, the PJB Double Four is more than enough for the at-home hobbyist. For those of us brave enough to want to take our talents outside the house though, you often have to have a little more power/sound for larger venues. It's why we work so hard at our day jobs!
 
Just that ye may see just how a Phil Jones BG-400 combo stacks up against a real human being, there is this previously unpublished photo from my shoot.

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That's a full 350 watts driving four 5 inch Piranha speakers. Whatever that means. All the math guys in the world are hard pressed to explain why it works so bloody well. I don't know why it works so well. It's deep and it's loud. Deceptive that way, too, because the gain and volume pots are useful through their entire range.

I'm "back at it" in retirement. Took a normal music education as a child with piano and saxophone. Finished university and took a year at music school. And saw to a life, and a career, and here now fresh out of Ari Cap's Music Theory for the Bass Player 2020 cohort. Returning for the 21 cohort and anticipate my time spent during the Thing That's Going Around will have its fair returns.

Retirement...oh yes. Is it fun? Do you find it relaxing? Carefree? To think, spending the day working on Professor Wigwam's Book on the Circle of Fourths after breakfast, prior to a leisurely walk, and two hours before a lite lunch. That sounds utterly delicious, M. Where do I sign up? Please continue allowing those of us to live vicariously through your thoughts...
 
Great picture! I'm not very photogenic and tend to shy away from being the focal point of pictures being taken in my general direction. From what I've seen, your photo shoot was a big success!
Very cool you played saxophone in your youth - I did as well. I've been amazed over the years how many other bassists I've met that also list the sax as a beginning/early instrument they learned.

I've been a bit scarce lately - had hernia surgery in early October and unfortunately had a setback with that and had to go under the knife again for some corrections. Finally getting back to normal (somewhat) in that I can finally pick up a bass and noodle around without pain! Another ailment that appears to be getting worse is an occasional and uncontrollable shaky right hand. Dr has ruled out parkinsons and ms - thank god - and basically calling it an essential tremor. Only happens occasionally and has yet to affect bass playing - so I feel lucky there. Just another thing to deal with in this most odd of years! Halloween gig was obviously cancelled due to covid and fact I wasn't physically able to participate.

Just gonna stay positive - play the hell out of my basses - and look forward to better times ahead!

b, so nice to read something from you! That's all we can do, my friend. Stay positive and wait this bugger out. I'm feeling a little more optimistic since the announcements of the vaccines. I'm up second for inoculation, and while at first, I wasn't so sure, I'm lining up ASAP to get it. I see it as a win either way. If it prevents us from getting it, the masks can come off more quickly and the music can begin faster. If it kills me, then someone else can move all my gear out to the consignment store!

Keep practicing those chops, b, and be glad you still can. :hyper:
 
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I'll put my combo into any situation without hesitation.

420, you've got a lot of fun-looking toys to play with and enhance your sound. I've always wondered what does the Marcus Miller mojo offer the paying customer that the standard-issue Markbass doesn't? I'm guessing preamp differences in maybe tonal options and features? Just curious as I've not played through that line before.

Hey, don't forget to add your member #211 to your sig. We love free advertising! :thumbsup:
 
Says the guy who outside the Covid Universe has more gigs than most of us.
I almost never 'practice' in the sense of really woodshedding, so I do these crap(or no)money gigs to keep my calluses. The 'jazz' gig(?) Saturday night was a nearly complete waste of time. We had 1(one!)table of five for one set. And yet we copped 4 more bookings out of it.
We have a "rock" gig Friday the 20th at an American Legion in Ft. Pierce. Then there's a dinner music 1st hour/ classic rock thing on the 24th. Basically live rehearsals. Oh, well. Better than a poke in the eye w/ a sharp stick.
 
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And just snagged this off Craigslist for $250. pretty solid score

You just showed us the good and bad about musical equipment, nuage. A nice piece of equipment can be had for a more-than-fair price, but it isn't resellable unless you're willing to take a hit. If the previous owner bought that combo for even 15% off retail, he still lost $175 in the transaction. Now if it's beat, that's one thing, but it looks like it's in pretty decent shape with maybe only a blem or two. That's why buying off the used market is a smart way to go.

Enjoy your 'Peg! Wow, the Dark Side has been growing in new ownership of late. How are the Rumblers handling that? "Just fine," says me.
 
I almost never 'practice' in the sense of really woodshedding, so I do these crap(or no)money gigs to keep my calluses. The 'jazz' gig(?) Saturday night was a nearly complete waste of time. We had 1(one!)table of five for one set. And yet we copped 4 more bookings out of it.
We have a "rock" gig Friday the 20th at an American Legion in Ft. Pierce. Then there's a dinner music 1st hour/ classic rock thing on the 24th. Basically live rehearsals. Oh, well. Better than a poke in the eye w/ a sharp stick.

We should all be so lucky. Rock on, GP! :bassist:
 
Wow. Thought I was gone for less than 24 hours. Had three pages of posts to read to catch up. I remember trying to learn to read music in 5th grade. I was playin C Melody sax. Teach gave me Oboe music, she was feared by all but knew her stuff. Never really learned it, but yet another bass player that started on Sax....
We drove 7 hours from San Miguel de Allende to Barra de Potosi today. Temps now at 7:35 pm 80 F and humidity around 80%. Beach! But we are used to 35% humidity, I am a puddle.

Looking at the twenties tonight, JPD, with literally no humidity. Static electricity already building up in the house. I think it's gonna be one of those winters, ya'll.