The Combo Club

[WestyBassBob]

Ha ha!
I was thinking about running four of them. (Not really). Two double stacks side by side for 600 watts into four 15s like a MASSIVE modular 4 x 10 cab. Using the send and receive jacks it would be easy: just 3 instrument cables and I’m done!

...THEN I thought: what about doing that with four BA210s?
That would be just over 1000 watts into eight 10s. It would be the EXACT same thing as an SVT stack through a fridge. -ducks-

I have to think of something though because I’m SURE the Black Crowes will be calling me to go on tour with them soon...

If that's the case you'll probably just plug into the PA anyway, so...

 

[SickAura]

Hi all - looking for thoughts and feedback on this little beast.....

I had a chance to hear one the other day and I was pretty impressed with the volume and tone
Unfortunately I couldn't play it
Anyone here have or tried one of these?

 

[GonePlaid]

The Kasinos were made to operate as many modules(extension cabs)as one could get powered[120v-each had an amp inside that needed to be plugged in], all controlled from one head. They used a weird cable with 3 curved terminals to send the signal to the 'slave' cabs. I'd always meant to get at least one 2x15 or 4x12 cab to add to it(this was back in 70-71 when I was younger and dumber). Not that I need it now, or then, but it woulda been cool to have. Every so often, I search to see if any are for sale but I doubt if any still exist.

Just did another search. Nope.

 

[themickster]

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Logically, the FX Send to FX Return chain cannot persist beyond the 2nd amp, since the 2nd amp has no pre-amp signal for the FX Send. For four amps you need a splitter to have two such chains.

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OR, for some amps, it's OK to connect an FX Send to the Input of the next amp! This was discussed in another Club with a preponderance of combos [Rumble Club] and specifically approved by the manufacturer. This, then, would theoretically allow an infinite chain of amps!!

Science!!! She blinded me with .... ...

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Some have balanced line out and input, such as some Markbass. Blackstar Unity ACT 250 can be daisy chained one after the other. Linking one amp to another through unbalanced in/out can be noisy. Four must be pretty bad.

 

[LoveJackBruce]

I'm getting two 6x15's Kardashian Super Woofer Cabinets so I can keep up with yous guys!!!!!!

 

[G-Dog]

The Kasinos were made to operate as many modules(extension cabs)as one could get powered[120v-each had an amp inside that needed to be plugged in], all controlled from one head. They used a weird cable with 3 curved terminals to send the signal to the 'slave' cabs. ....

I presume that weird Kustom cable bypasses the Volume & EQ on the 'slave' amps? That's how the FX Send to FX Return works on Rumble amps, which is great for stacking 1st on top of 2nd and (possibly) blocking the bottom 2nd amp's controls. If so, that weird Kustom cable may facilitate some way of propagating the first amp's pre-amp signal to all the subsequent 'slave' amps?

But going from FX Send to the Input of the 2nd Rumble amps doesn't 'enslave' them! The Volume & EQ controls of the 2nd, (and 3rd, and 4th, ...) amp are still active and need to be adjusted separately! For wet/dry applications, and others, that is what you want. Otherwise, it may be a little annoying to make sure the 2nd, and other, amps are EQ'd flat and Volume set where needed.
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[GonePlaid]

I presume that weird Kustom cable bypasses the Volume & EQ on the 'slave' amps? That's how the FX Send to FX Return works on Rumble amps, which is great for stacking 1st on top of 2nd and (possibly) blocking the bottom 2nd amp's controls. If so, that weird Kustom cable may facilitate some way of propagating the first amp's pre-amp signal to all the subsequent 'slave' amps?

But going from FX Send to the Input of the 2nd Rumble amps doesn't 'enslave' them! The Volume & EQ controls of the 2nd, (and 3rd, and 4th, ...) amp are still active and need to be adjusted separately! For wet/dry applications, and others, that is what you want. Otherwise, it may be a little annoying to make sure the 2nd, and other, amps are EQ'd flat and Volume set where needed.
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Nope. There were no controls at all on the 'slave' amps, just an input jack from the master. (I never saw one, just pics and that was ~50 years ago). Without the master it was just a big, heavy box-with a striped grill. The amp was inside the cab. Couldn't be seen unless you removed about 20 +/- screws.
As long as the electrical circuit could handle them, there was no limit-other than space-to how many could be strung together, i.e., you could have M+1S* on one side of the stage and another 2 S's* on the other side, all controlled by the 1M. Would made a helluva racket.

*or 2, 3, 4, etc.

 

[swink]

Nope. There were no controls at all on the 'slave' amps, just an input jack from the master. (I never saw one, just pics and that was ~50 years ago). Without the master it was just a big, heavy box-with a striped grill. The amp was inside the cab. Couldn't be seen unless you removed about 20 +/- screws.
As long as the electrical circuit could handle them, there was no limit-other than space-to how many could be strung together, i.e., you could have M+1S* on one side of the stage and another 2 S's* on the other side, all controlled by the 1M. Would made a helluva racket.

*or 2, 3, 4, etc.

looking for this?

 

[GonePlaid]

looking for this?
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Yeah, that's it. 'cept mine-and the one I wanted-weren't folded horn/1x15. Each cab had 2x15.

 

[G-Dog]

The Kasinos were made to operate as many modules(extension cabs)as one could get powered[120v-each had an amp inside that needed to be plugged in], all controlled from one head. They used a weird cable with 3 curved terminals to send the signal to the 'slave' cabs. I'd always meant to get at least one 2x15 or 4x12 cab to add to it(this was back in 70-71 when I was younger and dumber). Not that I need it now, or then, but it woulda been cool to have. Every so often, I search to see if any are for sale but I doubt if any still exist.

Just did another search. Nope.

I guess you've tried this website: VintageKustom.com: Search for Slave

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[RodRy]

I'm getting two 6x15's Kardashian Super Woofer Cabinets so I can keep up with yous guys!!!!!!

Those models have extra round low end. Yes, I said it. So sue me.

 

[swink]

I guess you've tried this website: VintageKustom.com: Search for Slave

https://jedistar.com/kasino/

 

[GonePlaid]

I guess you've tried this website: VintageKustom.com: Search for Slave

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No,but I wll. And that's the one for my Kasino(252). There was also a 4x12, really for guitar, but if I found one.........that's what replacement speakers are for.

 

[GonePlaid]

https://jedistar.com/kasino/

The pamphlet with the girl in white is the one I have. The 254 is mine plus a 2x15 'slave'.

 

[LoveJackBruce]

I guess you've tried this website: VintageKustom.com: Search for Slave

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WOW

 

[LoveJackBruce]

Too Dang Cool!!!!!!!

 

[JPDsma]

Promise me you’re gonna enjoy the peace and serenity during the Macca reading. You’re doing it for a bunch of us!

Definitely enjoying the read. Takes this 65 year old back a long ways. I remember our great Aunt brining us Love Me Do/PS I love you on Tollie Records from San Francisco. I have been a Mac fan ever since. My college buddies had to stop and think when I said Listen to Paul’s bass lines! He is one of the best! They had just never done that, but agreed. Really enjoying the read!

 

[GonePlaid]

The pamphlet with the girl in white is the one I have. The 254 is mine plus a 2x15 'slave'.

BTW, I'd have been happy as clam at high tide* to have had one!
EDIT: or find one now. IDK wuttinahell I'd do with it, but I'd figger it out.
*the full expression

 

[GonePlaid]

Those models have extra round low end. Yes, I said it. So sue me.

Good one!

 

[iagtrplyr]

Hi all - looking for thoughts and feedback on this little beast.....

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I had a chance to hear one the other day and I was pretty impressed with the volume and tone
Unfortunately I couldn't play it
Anyone here have or tried one of these?

Welcome, SickAura! You're coming here to inquire about a combo is what we're here for. Then if ya purchase it, we hope you'll join us in the future. I personally have zero experience, which is somewhat surprising, but maybe someone else can add their two cents to the conversation. I know I looked at that series of Kickbacks thinking I might order one online, but then I kept reading the speaker is one where you either love it or hate it (too bright, too modern) that I lost interest. Otherwise, the Hartke seems like a quality-built combo that should serve you well if that's the sound you like. I'd definitely recommend auditioning it if possible.