The Combo Club

[iagtrplyr]

Sorry, another question about this:
How is the stock speaker connected to the cable that connects it to the amp?
Is it a clamp or is there soldering involved?
is it just a matter of:
1. Unscrewing the 8 screws holding the speaker in place
2. Taking the clamp off the old speaker
3. Attaching the clamp to the new speaker
4. Screwing the 8 screws back in to hold the new speaker in place?

(I just carried the cabs to the car! )

I’m breaking my own rule, but since AH asked for a reply directly I must oblige.

Take out the eight speaker screws; gently pry the driver out. Underneath, you’ll find to tightly-placed slide connectors that you may need to use pliers to get off. Be careful of the wiring.

Also, mark your how wire with tape or something so you don’t accidentally re-hook them out of phase.

Take your new speaker and slide your connectors back on. Again, you may need your pliers to persuade them on. Make sure you push them on all the way so they’re tight.

Align the new speaker over the holes in the frame and drop it down. Begin all the screws in the holes but don’t tighten completely. Then make out a hundred-dollar check to “Fearless Leader.” After that, alternate tightening each screw in a star-pattern so SS to keep the tension even. Don’t go in a circular order to tighten.

Try pushing the speaker to see if it’s loose, and if you’re good then...you’re done. Get some solid playing time in to loosen up the driver and listen as it’ll bloom right before your ears in a few weeks.

Let us know how it goes, okay?

Good night, CC. Much love to all!

 

[Pontiac Thrasher]

[QUOTE="RodRy, post: 24741736, member: Used to tick off the drummer because he was hitting the skins for all he was worth, but we blew him away. . [/QUOTE]

We (bass, lead guitar/vocal, rhythm guitar) always adjusted our volume to the drummer, that was our goal for good sound! Whether he or I was on drums, our style was hard hitting.

That said, the drums were always either his vintage 1972 factory double bass Ludwig kit, or my 1961 Slingerlands. Both kits were louder than modern comparable kits, were both 3 ply mahogany (drummers would ask me if they could inspect my bass drum) so even keeping our volume down to the drums level we had to wear hearing protection. P.S. Our drummer got tinnitus anyways, a real shame given he tried to protect his hearing. Oh yeah, We both used vintage Zildjian cymbals... LOUD!

 

[Pontiac Thrasher]

I saw a guy on CL selling his rig and he looked like he had one 810, a 115, a 210 and two heads. I was just wondering where he's using that kind of firepower?.[/QUOTE]

You need two stacks when your guitatist plays through a cranked Fender Super Twin Reverb loaded with JBL's... look that combo up, they are awesome. I called my drummer and told him I bought some and asked if he had ever heard of them, he replied: F__k You. So I said no really, are you familiar with them? Answer: You heard me, F__k You.

; )

 

[themickster]

Hmm...maybe that why my MBs and I never got along.

I'd see that as getting me to better my playing

 

[Liko]

I saw a guy on CL selling his rig and he looked like he had one 810, a 115, a 210 and two heads. I was just wondering where he's using that kind of firepower?

My first thought was, "probably not all at once". I see a lot of utility in being able to plug either head into a number of combinations of cabinet to match wattage and cone area to venue size. Small bar patio gig? grab a head and the 210 or 115. Little bigger? Add the other of those two cabs. Bigger yet? Up it to the 810.

Now, the 810 is a bit much, in my experience to date. Looks really cool, as long as you're not the one getting it in and out of the truck for every gig. There's a reason the iconic Marshall 8x12 full stack is two cabs; all 8 speakers used to be a single cabinet, until the Stones' road crew threatened to walk out rather than load that beast in and out. And then Ampeg didn't get the memo and introduced "the fridge".

If I had the need and the dough for a rig that would fill any venue, without PA help, I'd go with two 410s. That's assuming my 300w through a 2x10 is ever not enough, and I can't expect PA help when it is. Both of those have thankfully never been true at the same time, which is probably why the guy's selling this rig; he or his band finally wised up and figured out that the smart money beyond having enough to hear yourself is in scaling the PA, not the stage rig.

 

[GonePlaid]

Those are the times, GP, you haul your favorite bass preamp/DI pedal and bypass the Markbass, using only the power amp section. Voila!

I don't own a DI-no need. Every amp I use has a line out/DI. But if we rehearse at the one guitar player/MarkBass owner's house, I'll take my little ole amp sim and see how that works. For rehearsals I've lived with the tone out of simplicity/consideration/laziness.

 

[Aaron Houts]

I’m breaking my own rule, but since AH asked for a reply directly I must oblige.

Take out the eight speaker screws; gently pry the driver out. Underneath, you’ll find to tightly-placed slide connectors that you may need to use pliers to get off. Be careful of the wiring.

Also, mark your how wire with tape or something so you don’t accidentally re-hook them out of phase.

Take your new speaker and slide your connectors back on. Again, you may need your pliers to persuade them on. Make sure you push them on all the way so they’re tight.

Align the new speaker over the holes in the frame and drop it down. Begin all the screws in the holes but don’t tighten completely. Then make out a hundred-dollar check to “Fearless Leader.” After that, alternate tightening each screw in a star-pattern so SS to keep the tension even. Don’t go in a circular order to tighten.

Try pushing the speaker to see if it’s loose, and if you’re good then...you’re done. Get some solid playing time in to loosen up the driver and listen as it’ll bloom right before your ears in a few weeks.

Let us know how it goes, okay?

Good night, CC. Much love to all!

Thank you as always, FL!
That DOES sound like something I can do. It really sounds like a fun project!
I mod the bejeezus out of my basses, why not change the speaker on an amp?
Okay, I’m going to start checking into getting a neodymium speaker.

Then make out a hundred-dollar check to “Fearless Leader.”

Ummmm...sir...I think you must have accidentally cut and pasted this from another post to another person...

I saw a guy on CL selling his rig and he looked like he had one 810, a 115, a 210 and two heads. I was just wondering where he's using that kind of firepower?.

You need two stacks when your guitatist plays through a cranked Fender Super Twin Reverb loaded with JBL's... look that combo up, they are awesome. I called my drummer and told him I bought some and asked if he had ever heard of them, he replied: F__k You. So I said no really, are you familiar with them? Answer: You heard me, F__k You.

; )[/QUOTE]
Hahahahaha!!!!!!

My first thought was, "probably not all at once". I see a lot of utility in being able to plug either head into a number of combinations of cabinet to match wattage and cone area to venue size. Small bar patio gig? grab a head and the 210 or 115. Little bigger? Add the other of those two cabs. Bigger yet? Up it to the 810.

Now, the 810 is a bit much, in my experience to date. Looks really cool, as long as you're not the one getting it in and out of the truck for every gig. There's a reason the iconic Marshall 8x12 full stack is two cabs; all 8 speakers used to be a single cabinet, until the Stones' road crew threatened to walk out rather than load that beast in and out. And then Ampeg didn't get the memo and introduced "the fridge".

If I had the need and the dough for a rig that would fill any venue, without PA help, I'd go with two 410s. That's assuming my 300w through a 2x10 is ever not enough, and I can't expect PA help when it is. Both of those have thankfully never been true at the same time, which is probably why the guy's selling this rig; he or his band finally wised up and figured out that the smart money beyond having enough to hear yourself is in scaling the PA, not the stage rig.

Excellent.
Thank you so much.
From what you and FL are saying it’s really looking like I could even make do with the two fifteens i have since almost everywhere has PA support.
By the way:
Is your username a Disenchantment reference?

 

[Liko]

By the way:
Is your username a Disenchantment reference?

Nope. Really old paintball nickname. This young teenager said I was ruthless, like "Liko" from the Dogma movie, and the mispronunciation stuck for the rest of the day. I've been using it as an online alias ever since.

 

[Cracker7]

Still waiting for my special gift to myself. Post office is so slow this time of year. Ugh

 

[Cracker7]

Any more guesses???

 

[Aaron Houts]

@nuage420b
@Cracker7
Celestion BN10-200X Green Label Bass Speaker - 10" 200-watt 8 ohms
It’d be pricey, but I’ll bet you’d cut some weight and it might even make your BA210 MORE badass!

 

[Nuage420]

@nuage420b
@Cracker7
Celestion BN10-200X Green Label Bass Speaker - 10" 200-watt 8 ohms
It’d be pricey, but I’ll bet you’d cut some weight and it might even make your BA210 MORE badass!

... it does get rather flappy with the volume past 2-3 o'clock

 

[Aaron Houts]

... it does get rather flappy with the volume past 2-3 o'clock

So for another $250...if everything goes right, you’ve got everything you like about the BA210 with a little more volume and clarity and the amp is as light as a Rumble.
I understand that this is best case, but what if it works???

 

[Cracker7]

It’s here, it’s finally here. Omg, the excitement!!!

 

[Cracker7]

 

[Nuage420]

@Aaron Houts

 

[Cracker7]

@nuage420b
@Cracker7
Celestion BN10-200X Green Label Bass Speaker - 10" 200-watt 8 ohms
It’d be pricey, but I’ll bet you’d cut some weight and it might even make your BA210 MORE badass!

I’d have to know what it was going to sound like before I did that really. If it was the exact tone with those benefits, then hell yeah

 

[Aaron Houts]

@Aaron Houts
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Hahahaha!
But it’s a good idea, right?!
Any luck on that second BA210 by the way?

I’d have to know what it was going to sound like before I did that really. If it was the exact tone with those benefits, then hell yeah

I really want to do it.
It’ll take me a little while to make it happen, but of course I’ll post impressions if I do and like GP said, I’ll have a stock BA115 right next to it to A/B.
If I don’t like it, I’ll reverse it and sell the Celestion to recoup some of the expense. I’ll chalk the rest up to a learning experience.
If I like it though, I’ll do the other one!!!
It’s starting to sound like I won’t ever really need more than these two combos.
That would make it worth investing in them.

 

[Cracker7]

Hahahaha!
But it’s a good idea, right?!
Any luck on that second BA210 by the way?

I really want to do it.
It’ll take me a little while to make it happen, but of course I’ll post impressions if I do and like GP said, I’ll have a stock BA115 right next to it to A/B.
If I don’t like it, I’ll reverse it and sell the Celestion to recoup some of the expense. I’ll chalk the rest up to a learning experience.
If I like it though, I’ll do the other one!!!

Nice. I wish you luck my friend. I’m actually eyeing a used Ampeg b-100r at my local shop. It needs a little work, but if they price it right, it’s mine.

 

[Nuage420]

Hahahaha!
But it’s a good idea, right?!
Any luck on that second BA210 by the way?

I really want to do it.
It’ll take me a little while to make it happen, but of course I’ll post impressions if I do and like GP said, I’ll have a stock BA115 right next to it to A/B.
If I don’t like it, I’ll reverse it and sell the Celestion to recoup some of the expense. I’ll chalk the rest up to a learning experience.
If I like it though, I’ll do the other one!!!
It’s starting to sound like I won’t ever really need more than these two combos.
That would make it worth investing in them.

I find the best deals when I let them fall into my lap. If I come across something and too good to pass up I'll grab it. If time allows, patience is the best way to save.