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The Cops are Knockin...What was I Thinkin?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by chavezding, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. Sufenta

    Sufenta Trudging The Happy Road of Destiny

    Mar 14, 2002
    The Signpost Up Ahead.
    I hear you. It was fortuitous because it was the one night when my wife was away with our son on a trip. I finally had the house to myself, and my neighbor (drummer) just happened to be on a walk with his wife that night when he heard me. I was bummed that after living in apartments for 20+ years, the one night I had alone in my own home where I could practice late, someone was coming by to (what I thought) complain.
    My neighbors had a party last weekend that went on well past 11pm. They might have a party like that once or twice a year. They are considerate people and cutting loose once or twice a year is acceptable. Demanding perfect neighborhood silence 365/year is unreasonable and not very neighborly.
  2. Man you need an attitude adjustment. Maybe it because I grew up in New Orleans and have lived in mostly Latino neighborhoods since I moved to California. But I always thought of banging away on an instrument as celebrating life. In most neighborhoods I live in you get a thumbs up and a beer for kicking ass on your bass/drums etc.
    People who believe that violence or police are solutions to problems are, in my opinion, much of what is wrong with humanity. Not bass players or drummers grooving on their rig.

    We had one neighbor at my old drummers place who was so irate about our loud practices that he banged on the window until he broke it. This was a 6x4 plate glass window! He ended up getting kicked out of his apartment because it wasnt the first such incident with him being pushy with other neighbors. The other residents of the little cluster of apts had no issue with us. I had a 50w Bassman head through a shallow fender 2x15, which is not loud at all!
    OTOH if you are an apartment building get to know your neighbors and find out whats a good time of day. Playing through headphones is a drag, sweaty, claustrophobic, and not a good representation of what your bass amp sounds like. I know when I have been only jammin with phones for a few months and play with a band I always have to adjust my technique/tone!
  3. Yeah, playin thru headphones sucks for bass. It's just not the same when you can't feel the thump.

    My MarkBass F1 @ 8 O'clock volume is a good level. I can't hear it outside my front door (using a X2 wireless). Just think, I almost returned the F1 for the even louder
    SD1200 head.
  4. UncleFluffy


    Mar 8, 2009
    Head Tinkerer, The Flufflab
  5. Slax


    Nov 5, 2007
    Long Island, NY
    Agreed. Headphones suck.

    You can always rent out an hour of a practice studio to practice at as loud as you want almost whenever you want for pretty cheap.

    I currently have two bands that practice at a nice volume twice a week, and I can play softly without headphones at home. I can though, see myself possibly doing this once a week between practices if I couldn't. Just hook my Laptop to the PA and jam out to some songs on grooveshark for an hour or so at the practice studio instead of headphones.

    Just an idea...
  6. I disagree. If you have good headphones and a good setup, it will sound better than through any amp.

    I use a DI and a mixing table, that's how I do it.
  7. that is precisely why playing through headphones sucks. You can hear every ridge of your fingerprints as you change positions. You can hear all the tiny artifacts of the pickups as you switch pickups.
    Amps mask these details. And very few bands can get by just jamming with headphones. So it's unrealistic to practice with them.
    Of course I am not gonna say I never use cans, but I know that even with my DJ headphones I am not getting a good representation of the bass or the low freqs.


    Apr 16, 2010
    Rockman BASS ACE by Tom Scholz.
    It has two inputs (one for you and one for your guitar playing bud). You have to use a splitter for the phones.
    When I first started playing with my friend (total rookies) we played through small amps and it still got on our girlfriend's nerves. You know... we would play the same song for an hour.
    Well... I got one of these and split the phones.
    We loved it.
    It is funny, women anyway... When they discovered what we were doing... it wasn't good enough. We would ignore the attention they wanted because "I can't hear you with the phones on sweetie" worked.
    Eventually a compromise was made and me and Joe went back to playing through our little 15 watt 8 inch combo's.

    But... the BASS ACE is the ticket if you want to rock out without bothering anyone.
  9. whocaresnotme


    Jun 21, 2009
    There is actually NO time that you can practice that won't potentially piss your neighbors off. People love music but hate it when musicians practice/rehearse. Goes with the territory.


    Apr 16, 2010
    One more...

    One night I was in bed with my girlfriend at an apartment complex. Maybe midnight. The single guy next door kept playing the same 3 minute song on his turntable.
    My girlfriend wasn't as tolorant as I was and said "Go do something about it!"
    Creepy man... anyway, I go next door and just before I knock,
    I look down at the bottom of the sliding glass door in front and
    see his two red sneakers pointing towards the glass.
    He is waiting for me.
    I knock... he opens the door and I say "Would you please turn that down". He says "sure".
    So, I am feelin' pretty cool about it and go back and get in bed.
    The song starts playing again only now at a slower RPM.
    Like from 45 to 33.
    My girlfriend looks at me in horror and says.. You told him to turn it down and he did!"
    Man after seeing those red sneakers waiting for me the first time... I let it go. Freaked me out. Diabolic.
  11. pbass2go


    Dec 19, 2004
    Apple Valley, MN
  12. That's the set up I have. Where is your gain set on the Mackie? Mine is barely @ 8 o'clock.
  13. That is correct, it forces you to improve your playing technique a lot.

    But you can also change it on the EQ, you know... Put a bit less highs, a bit more mids and you should be fine.

    You can also add effects to compensate somewhat.
  14. SpamBot


    Dec 25, 2008
    St. Paul, MN
    +1. Even if you don't like the tone all that much, practicing like that will force you to play with better technique, and that's a good thing. Unless you're lazy.
  15. This is so true. Just the last few days playing with headphones, my right hand slap/muting technique has gotten cleaner. Was kinda surprise when I played thru my cab. My typical open string hum/ring was gone. Each note was more clear.
  16. OldogNewTrick


    Dec 28, 2004
    Germany, EU
    that gets everybody off my back....


    and sounds pretty decent :smug:
  17. I had some idiot neighbor bring the cops around at 5PM. So I'm thinking the answer is "yes".

    But of course, the morons using power tools past midnight I had to shut up myself (and they acted as though I was unreasonable...)

    I hate my neighbors in my ghettoriffic hole.
  18. marchone


    Nov 30, 2009
  19. Supertanker

    Supertanker Watch the dog! He is trained to bite!

    Jun 23, 2005
    That's a winner!

    Here's my solution, buy a free-standing house with a basement.

    That's what I did...
  20. I live in the suburbs of LA and I can jam as loud as I want anytime of the day and night. My parents are very understanding when it comes to music and cool neighbors help too.

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