Take off the Engineer Hat, put on the Musician Hat & wait & see!Don't kill it on paper before you use it in the real world. (still, all your measurements and concerns are entirely valid!)
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The Fender Bassman 100T thread
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There were no problems with mine keeping up with a Marshall 100 half stack and loud drummer in a live situation, although in only a medium sized room.
And Freight Train, I hear what you say about buying the first run of a new product - we are indeed "the beta testers for Fender". I was rather hoping they might have a representative on this forum to respond to the odd question, like some other manufacturers.
And Freight Train, I hear what you say about buying the first run of a new product - we are indeed "the beta testers for Fender". I was rather hoping they might have a representative on this forum to respond to the odd question, like some other manufacturers.
thats impressive Tim a 100 watt bass amp keeping up with a 100 watt guitar amp with a 4x12 ,I wounder what volume the marshall was at, and your volume too? Your making me wounder if i should go the 100t and 610, its just with my s.s experiance i know i need/like around 600watts, and im not sure the 100t would be there.............plan B , get a 610 neo to go with the super for smaller rooms. Ultimate would be to a/b the super +810 and 100t +610 with the band . Thats why i was asking before about your svt and 100t.
have a gig at Loucha Lounge on 19th May, real small, but will let ya know.
have a gig at Loucha Lounge on 19th May, real small, but will let ya know.
Hi Chrisan, the room wasn't that big. I was on about 7 and 7 from memory. I think I feel comfortable with the 100T because I always know I have the SVT sitting in the background for when I need it. So I suppose in your position the 300 makes more sense as you could confidently use it in all situations, albeit with the weight penalty. And the 810 neo head is a lightweight 810 compared to an Ampeg fridge, so I think you are making a good decision and have all bases covered. Since owning the Bergantino 610 I have become a fan of 610s as good ones seem to handle anything you throw at them and the schlep is much easier. I can't see you being unhappy with the Super 300 and 810neo - I would love to be there to hear it live! 
a good point about the 300 head you make is that you can always turn it down but when the situation arises you have the power there, the weight of the 300head doesnt bother me, nor the weight of the 810, it really is easy to put in the station wagon alone. I find the size of the cab is aliitle imposing for punters in a small venue however. Heres a song for ya then
Hi Chrisan, the room wasn't that big. I was on about 7 and 7 from memory. I think I feel comfortable with the 100T because I always know I have the SVT sitting in the background for when I need it. So I suppose in your position the 300 makes more sense as you could confidently use it in all situations, albeit with the weight penalty. And the 810 neo head is a lightweight 810 compared to an Ampeg fridge, so I think you are making a good decision and have all bases covered. Since owning the Bergantino 610 I have become a fan of 610s as good ones seem to handle anything you throw at them and the schlep is much easier. I can't see you being unhappy with the Super 300 and 810neo - I would love to be there to hear it live!
By choosing the 100T what I'm banking on is having mains help if the room gets that large, and having the option of later adding another 410 neo. Hope I don't regret it later, but 300 watt tube amps are just too clean for me. I'm not talking about wanting to sound like Lemmy, I like that grind that happens just as the power tubes are being pushed. It's not preamp overdrive - that's way too buzzy for me even on low settings. It's power tubes right on the edge.
Back in the early 70's I borrowed a friend's 100 watt Bassman, and that thing had a sweet spot where with gain pretty hot and with a light to medium touch, it gave the impression that it had tons of headroom - just that wide open sound, but if you dug in just a little it would grunt so beautiful. So it was always just on the edge of distorting but it didn't sound like it at all. I haven't found that on the 100T yet as I haven't been in a room large enough to push it that hard, but I'm banking on it doing that. Also, since I'm thinking I'll be going through the mains quite a bit, I like the post-power-amp DI of the 100T. Meanwhile, that old Bassman was easily louder than the 300 watt ss GMT that I had at the time.
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But cmon....admit it....sounding a little like lemmy wouldnt hurt either, I mean how could it?!
When you push the 100T, can you get tube sag? I played an Ampeg B25 a few years ago and the tube sag was just great and at a very low volume.
Absolutely. I was surprised a little bit because it has a solid state rectifier. But the sag is there, and a lovely bloom as well. Unfortunately between my business and having to learn songs for the new group in prep for the upcoming gig, I haven't spent just a lot of time exploring all the possibilities beyond the tests I've posted here, so I'm gonna be using the gig to experiment a lot. Which seems kinda backwards but that's where it is.
GregC said:
$1400 in the U.S. = about $2500 here in Aus-in store. Online sellers would have it at MAYBE $2000.
I think I'd go for the SVT810 which you can get for $1500 new "if" I was thinking of getting an 810.
As I've said, NO stores in my city have ANY of this new Fender gear.
Slack!!!!!! & they wonder why we buy online
the card that was in the top corner of my 810 neo said 97 lbs {44kg}, beats me why they put " under 115lbs" on their web site
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