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The Mike Lull Club

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#162
Hey Jay, was going to call ya tomorrow.

Ok, so here we go.

This baby is amazing. In passive mode it is super agressive, yet can get that typical Fender passive tone on both P and J pickups. As for the overall tonal qualities of this bass, it is incredible. The goal with this instrument was to get the most versitile bass I could get. So that ended up being the P with the J in the 70's position.

First Vic and I checked out the bass in active mode with eq flat. The P pickup soloed is incredible. Very beefy but not muddy. J pickup soloed is amazing! Typical 70's tone that just screamed agressiveness! Messing with the EQ, I will probably never use the treble boost that much, the bass is so agressive, but the bass control is awesome. Guys, Lull is a master.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Now, for the pics:hyper:

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#163
B.C. said:
Hey Jay, was going to call ya tomorrow.

Ok, so here we go.

This baby is amazing. In passive mode it is super agressive, yet can get that typical Fender passive tone on both P and J pickups. As for the overall tonal qualities of this bass, it is incredible. The goal with this instrument was to get the most versitile bass I could get. So that ended up being the P with the J in the 70's position.

First Vic and I checked out the bass in active mode with eq flat. The P pickup soloed is incredible. Very beefy but not muddy. J pickup soloed is amazing! Typical 70's tone that just screamed agressiveness! Messing with the EQ, I will probably never use the treble boost that much, the bass is so agressive, but the bass control is awesome. Guys, Lull is a master.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Now, for the pics:hyper:

DSC03846.jpg

DSC03849.jpg

DSC03850-1.jpg

DSC03852.jpg

DSC03854.jpg

DSC03851.jpg

DSC03845.jpg
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Aww B.C she is beautiful!!!! You are a lucky guy! :bassist: That is great she is what you wanted her to be :hyper: :D
 
#169
My Lull is the only 35" scale bass that I own these days. I really do not feel a major difference in switching between it and my other basses. With other 35" scale basses that I have owned, this has not been the case. In the end, I am really a 34" scale guy but really love the Lull and actually like the 35" scale.
 
#170
B.C. great bass. I love the transblack. I was wondering I noticed on the Lull website some of the P 5 string pickups are put in the other way i.e. with the polls of the pickup under the A string on the back half of the pickup and not the front. The way your bass is setup makes more sense to me because if you ignore the B string a P would have the polls for the A string on the front half. Does anyone know why sometimes it is setup the other way around? And how that would change the tone?

As for the 35" issue, I am more of a 34" scale person myself. Right know my only basses are two Lull's and an old Fender so no don't really have to switch to much. I do notice a difference when playing the low C on my B string, but other then that string choice impacts tension a lot so I really don't notice much of a difference there, and the Lull neck shape is just great and really works with the 35".
 
#171
JRB said:
B.C. great bass. I love the transblack. I was wondering I noticed on the Lull website some of the P 5 string pickups are put in the other way i.e. with the polls of the pickup under the A string on the back half of the pickup and not the front. The way your bass is setup makes more sense to me because if you ignore the B string a P would have the polls for the A string on the front half. Does anyone know why sometimes it is setup the other way around? And how that would change the tone?

As for the 35" issue, I am more of a 34" scale person myself. Right know my only basses are two Lull's and an old Fender so no don't really have to switch to much. I do notice a difference when playing the low C on my B string, but other then that string choice impacts tension a lot so I really don't notice much of a difference there, and the Lull neck shape is just great and really works with the 35".
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Thanks man. I believe what you are refering to is the reverse P config. All it really does is move the B and E string pickup closer to the bridge, giving a tighter responce. I went for the standard just cuz I wanted that classic P sound.
 
#172
B.C. said:
Thanks man. I believe what you are refering to is the reverse P config. All it really does is move the B and E string pickup closer to the bridge, giving a tighter responce. I went for the standard just cuz I wanted that classic P sound.
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Actually not a reverse P. Imagine keeping the same pickup location in your bass removing the pickup and just putting the front half where the back half and visa verse, turning it around. So the pickup location is the same, the B and E string are still closer to the neck, just the exposed poles are different i.e. the space where there are no poles under the A on the back half of the pickup string (which only happens on a 5 string P bass pickup not the 4) is know in the front but still under the A string. Hope that makes sense, I am having trouble describing it.

It might do nothing, or just do a little bit of what a reverse P does, but only for the A string. I have no idea.
 
#173
JRB said:
Actually not a reverse P. Imagine keeping the same pickup location in your bass removing the pickup and just putting the front half where the back half and visa verse, turning it around. So the pickup location is the same, the B and E string are still closer to the neck, just the exposed poles are different i.e. the space where there are no poles under the A on the back half of the pickup string (which only happens on a 5 string P bass pickup not the 4) is know in the front but still under the A string. Hope that makes sense, I am having trouble describing it.

It might do nothing, or just do a little bit of what a reverse P does, but only for the A string. I have no idea.
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That is probably due to whichever pickup is chosen. The Fender 5 string P pickups are also like this (oddly!), so whatever is pictured on the web is probably just because whatever pickup vendor that is, that's the way they do 5 string P pickups. Mike just routes however it needs to be.

The way Brandon's is, is actually correct for a truer Fender tone... at least comparable to the 4 string P's for those upper 4 strings. To be the most faithful for a tone more comparable to a 4 string Fender pickup location, the A string should be on pole pieces closer to the neck... not the bridge. I've never really noticed a problem on my Fender, but it's true.

I do find it ironic that Fender did it "wrong" on their 5's. :D
 
#174
Vic said:
That is probably due to whichever pickup is chosen. The Fender 5 string P pickups are also like this (oddly!), so whatever is pictured on the web is probably just because whatever pickup vendor that is, that's the way they do 5 string P pickups. Mike just routes however it needs to be.

The way Brandon's is, is actually correct for a truer Fender tone... at least comparable to the 4 string P's for those upper 4 strings. To be the most faithful for a tone more comparable to a 4 string Fender pickup location, the A string should be on pole pieces closer to the neck... not the bridge. I've never really noticed a problem on my Fender, but it's true.

I do find it ironic that Fender did it "wrong" on their 5's. :D
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Ah, ok. Follow Vic, he is the smart one. :D

Fender may have done it wrong but Lull got it right.:hiding:
 
#175
Vic said:
That is probably due to whichever pickup is chosen. The Fender 5 string P pickups are also like this (oddly!), so whatever is pictured on the web is probably just because whatever pickup vendor that is, that's the way they do 5 string P pickups. Mike just routes however it needs to be.

The way Brandon's is, is actually correct for a truer Fender tone... at least comparable to the 4 string P's for those upper 4 strings. To be the most faithful for a tone more comparable to a 4 string Fender pickup location, the A string should be on pole pieces closer to the neck... not the bridge. I've never really noticed a problem on my Fender, but it's true.

I do find it ironic that Fender did it "wrong" on their 5's. :D
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Thanks for the info Vic.
 
#176
B.C. said:
Fender may have done it wrong but Lull got it right.:hiding:
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I know you're just kidding, but just in case someone misses that, it's not a Lull decision at all. It just depends on which pickups a given customer selects. I don't believe a given pickup vendor will offer both a a 3+2 as well as a 2+3. I figure they'll have one config, and if that's the brand of pickup you want, that's what you get, and what Mike has to route for. :)

So in fact, Lull didn't get it right, YOU did. :D
 
#177
Vic said:
I know you're just kidding, but just in case someone misses that, it's not a Lull decision at all. It just depends on which pickups a given customer selects. I don't believe a given pickup vendor will offer both a a 3+2 as well as a 2+3. I figure they'll have one config, and if that's the brand of pickup you want, that's what you get, and what Mike has to route for. :)

So in fact, Lull didn't get it right, YOU did. :D
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Vic,

The funny part is that my bass is a JJ/PJ bass with a quick connect system. I don't remember how the bass was setup when it came, but since it has a quick connect system, I can switch the pickup in and out easily and I can put either half of the pickup in the front position.

Since the wiring goes from the half with the A string poles into the half without and then into the preamp I assume the A string part is supposed to go in front, but I don't know. I also wonder if I can just put it into the bass anyway I want? The pickup is the usual Lull Duncan's.
 
#178
Vic said:
I know you're just kidding, but just in case someone misses that, it's not a Lull decision at all. It just depends on which pickups a given customer selects. I don't believe a given pickup vendor will offer both a a 3+2 as well as a 2+3. I figure they'll have one config, and if that's the brand of pickup you want, that's what you get, and what Mike has to route for. :)

So in fact, Lull didn't get it right, YOU did. :D
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You rock Vic:D
 
#179
JRB said:
Vic,

The funny part is that my bass is a JJ/PJ bass with a quick connect system. I don't remember how the bass was setup when it came, but since it has a quick connect system, I can switch the pickup in and out easily and I can put either half of the pickup in the front position.

Since the wiring goes from the half with the A string poles into the half without and then into the preamp I assume the A string part is supposed to go in front, but I don't know. I also wonder if I can just put it into the bass anyway I want? The pickup is the usual Lull Duncan's.
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This is a VERY interesting question. It would of course depend on if the "halves" were wound slightly differently to enhance a lower or higher frequency response based on the intended string coverage. This is always possible on any split coil (tho obviously not dual or single coil), though I don't know if anyone does it.

Thing is, it's just a separately housed split coil, so really, even without the quick connect, you could do the same thing with a soldering iron.

Bottom line, we'd have to ask the pickup vendor. Maybe it was a Lull decision after all?? :D
 
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