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The Star Treks

Of the Star Trek Series

  • Every Series ROCKS!

    Votes: 27 8.2%
  • Every Series has good and bad episodes

    Votes: 163 49.4%
  • Every Series has good and bad episodes except Enterprise, which sucks

    Votes: 28 8.5%
  • Enterprise and Voyager suck

    Votes: 13 3.9%
  • Enterprise, Voyager and Deep Space Nine suck

    Votes: 19 5.8%
  • The Original Series and TOS Movies are the only good Star Trek

    Votes: 38 11.5%
  • Star Trek sucks, geek boy

    Votes: 11 3.3%
  • Star Trek: Carrots

    Votes: 31 9.4%

  • Total voters
    330
I'll be the odd duck; I like Voyager better than any of the others. TNG runs a close second, followed by DS9 and TOS, then Enterprise/Disc on the bottom rung. Thoroughly enjoyed Picard, though it definitely had problems.

The thing is, the bad episodes made the good ones really stand out more. Kate Mulgrew, Robert Picardo, and Jeri Ryan were just amazing, pure acting chops making their characters fascinating to me as they matured. Everyone else was absolutely replaceable, but those three kept me glued to the screen. Especially the Doctor's character development stories.

That whole "species 8472" stuff was terrible, but otherwise I dunno, I liked most of it. Better than trying (and failing) to keep an anguished mother from murdering a sentient crystal lattice with RF emissions. :shrug:
 
AND she stranded them in the delta quadrant in the first place. She could've used the array to send them home and left behind a couple of photon torpedos with timers instead of destroying it first. Tuvok should've said something.
Not even to save her crew, but just to shorten their trip home, she allied with the Borg: the greatest enemy the Federation's ever known. With little to no information on species 8472 and their motivations, she gave the Borg a weapon to defeat them. All to shorten the trip home. And then she did it again 20 years later when she went back in time, again, just to shorten the trip home. Sure Chakotay and 7 died and Tuvok had Vulcan Alzheimer's. She lost people close to her and that's understandable but she did things a Captain shouldn't do, and then they promoted her.

And she straight up murdered Tuvix. He was begging for his life and she killed him. Why? Because Tuvok was her mentor and Neelix was her pet and she wanted to save them because they were important to her. Two individuals, through an accident, became one. One sentient individual who came to exist through no fault of his own and he wanted to live. But she chose for him because she wanted her consigliere and her dog back.

Thanks, Gorn. That’s actually very helpful. I haven’t seen Voyager in close to 20 years, and (obviously) I was much younger at the time. Once I’m done with Enterprise I may have to go back and revisit it with a more critical (jaded, middle-aged) eye.

Trek has a long history of noble (even if personally flawed) captains and the drama of an episode often comes from them having to do what’s right, instead of what is easy or personally beneficial. It’s interesting that Voyager would choose to portray a captain who’s seemingly less ethical.
 
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Thanks, Gorn. That’s actually very helpful. I haven’t seen Voyager in close to 20 years, and (obviously) I was much younger at the time. Once I’m done with Enterprise I may have to go back and revisit it with a more critical (jaded, middle-aged) eye.

Trek has a long history of noble (even if personally flawed) captains and the drama of an episode often comes from them having to do what’s right, instead of what is easy or personally beneficial. It’s interesting that Voyager would choose to portray a captain who’s seemingly less ethical.
My opinion isn't exactly popular. I don't think many ST fans consider her a war criminal that should've been at least relieved of duty and court martialed after her debriefing with the Federation council once they got back.

Enterprise is excellent. You just started right? Captain Archer will make some questionable decisions down the road. He's a great character though.
 
My opinion isn't exactly popular. I don't think many ST fans consider her a war criminal that should've been at least relieved of duty and court martialed after her debriefing with the Federation council once they got back.

Ha, noted! :laugh:

Enterprise is excellent. You just started right? Captain Archer will make some questionable decisions down the road. He's a great character though.

Yeah, I think so far they’ve done a good job of combining our somewhat provincial 20th/21st century worldview with some of the optimistic elements of TOS. It was a novel concept to do a prequel, instead of a traditional spinoff. Archer is definitely less cautious and suspicious than a later captain, like Picard.
 
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Yeah, I think so far they’ve done a good job of combining our somewhat provincial 20th/21st century worldview with some of the optimistic elements of TOS. It was certainly a novel concept to do a prequel, instead of a traditional spinoff. Archer is definitely less cautious and suspicious than a later captain, like Picard.
Archer is just a regular guy who happened to grow up in a world where aliens have been around for about a hundred years. Humanity isn't as enlightened as they are in the TNG time, but they're on the way. Poverty and crime have already been eliminated on earth but they don't have transporters or full on replicators so everyone is still kinda regular. It's a really interesting portrayal of humanity in the not so distant future. Where are you, the first season? Things change pretty drastically going forward so be ready for that. It's definitely worth watching to the end.
 
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All to shorten the trip home. And then she did it again 20 years later when she went back in time, again, just to shorten the trip home. Sure Chakotay and 7 died and Tuvok had Vulcan Alzheimer's. She lost people close to her and that's understandable but she did things a Captain shouldn't do, and then they promoted her.
Don't forget she stole that time traveling device from the Klingons.



 
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Coming to the end of season 6 (of 7) of Star Trek Deep Space 9 and Vic Fontaine just appeared.

I thought this was a great move on the writers part. Made the other characters more 'human'. To see Odo playing piano in his tux :thumbsup:

His quintet reminded me of the trio I played in ; (singer, drummer, me on grand piano, synth and bass pedals.
We played all those standards... Very nice memories.....

Mike

A little Vic...

 
Coming to the end of season 6 (of 7) of Star Trek Deep Space 9 and Vic Fontaine just appeared.

I thought this was a great move on the writers part. Made the other characters more 'human'. To see Odo playing piano in his tux :thumbsup:

His quintet reminded me of the trio I played in ; (singer, drummer, me on grand piano, synth and bass pedals.
We played all those standards... Very nice memories.....

Mike
I just watched, yesterday, DS9 S6 E16 “Change of Heart”. My heart was in my mouth when Dax was critically injured. All good though. :D
But it made me think though, Dax has been injured or sick a few times in the last season or two. Hmmm.....


* don’t worry I have watched DS9 all the way through before. But years ago.
 
I just watched, yesterday, DS9 S6 E16 “Change of Heart”. My heart was in my mouth when Dax was critically injured. All good though. :D
But it made me think though, Dax has been injured or sick a few times in the last season or two. Hmmm.....


* don’t worry I have watched DS9 all the way through before. But years ago.

Yes, a great episode.. more to come.....
 
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