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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

Hey Senor - Sorry about the messy lottery system . I really thought folks would have the sense to be ready to purchase if they were picked and tire kickers would stay on the side lines as I did while I waited on the cost of my car repair bill to get done . Sadly - that took till yesterday morning and precluded any shot I had . I'm hoping you will not stop with the limited models entirely but perhaps there could be some changes made that'd facilitate production . For one - I'd say you can do it w/o the wood veneer . Your normal finishes and designs are really eye catching as is and the special editions are special because of the upgraded insides and the sound improvements due to the upgraded components . Secondly - perhaps they could be done on an order basis like Arkham does . You could decide how many you feel like making - announce that and require upfront payment then build away . Wish I had a better solution to offer up - maybe later after the coffee kicks in ! .... Kelly
Honestly people putting their name in then deciding not to buy doesn't bother me at all, everyone that was chosen and decided not to buy so far has been very cool about it, and I certainly understand things like needing to divert gear money to other expenses, especially around holiday time.

But you're actually describing what I kind of want to do anyway. I did a couple amp designs this month where I used carbon comp resistors and large film caps but put them straight onto the board instead of messing with turrets. They don't look as cool, but they sound just as good, they take way less time to build, and I can fit more components on the board that way. So if I did handwired models with the higher voltage and the same upgraded components but left off the turrets and did typical UV printed finish instead of wood faceplates I could see it being the sort of thing I offer continually instead of every six months or so. Prices would be a little higher than the typical SMD models, but they would be less than these limited edition runs because they take a lot less time to put together.

So the question is, do I switch EVERYTHING over to handwired and raise prices a little (probably $20-40 depending on model), or do I continue with SMD as my main thing and do handwired as a case-by-case occasional thing?

Described above several posts back but my question was lost in the lottery flurry ;-) I am wondering about using a boost after my mini tube Slampegg. It is lower output than the 12ax based Partical Axcelerator (PAx). Currently I'm using a solid state boost. Wondering if the Space Heater belongs in that spot... or it the Space Heater maybe even replaces the Slampegg mini or if I dump the SH and do a Slampegg X...

I apologize, I remember reading your post and thinking "oh, solid question, I should answer that" before getting distracted by something shiny.

The Slampegg circuit is inherently lower output than the others, I think it's safe to say it's the lowest output of any of my preamp pedals. Solid-state boost is a great, efficient way to bring the level up, and I actually considered (pronounced "tried but it didn't work") adding a solid-state boost to the inside of Slampegg that could be switched on or off. I'm obviously incredibly biased, but a tube boost beats a solid-state boost every time. Space Heater would do an excellent job, and it has one of the hottest outputs of my preamp pedals. With the gain turned down it does a nice clean boost without coloring the sound too much, but as you bring the gain up it adds more of its own character. Space Heater wouldn't really replace Slampegg as they each have their own thing that they do very well, but I guess in the sense that both do a mid-gain overdrive, it really depends what you want. If Ampeg-ish grind is what you want, Slampegg is it and Space Heater is not. Space Heater can get a nice grind, but it's not very Ampeg-ish.
 
Hey Senor - Sorry about the messy lottery system . I really thought folks would have the sense to be ready to purchase if they were picked and tire kickers would stay on the side lines as I did while I waited on the cost of my car repair bill to get done . Sadly - that took till yesterday morning and precluded any shot I had . I'm hoping you will not stop with the limited models entirely but perhaps there could be some changes made that'd facilitate production . For one - I'd say you can do it w/o the wood veneer . Your normal finishes and designs are really eye catching as is and the special editions are special because of the upgraded insides and the sound improvements due to the upgraded components . Secondly - perhaps they could be done on an order basis like Arkham does . You could decide how many you feel like making - announce that and require upfront payment then build away . Wish I had a better solution to offer up - maybe later after the coffee kicks in ! .... Kelly
Hey cat, to be very clear, I turned mine down because in the past few days the variant has canceled gigs, work and life. My choice was to not only be financially responsible, but to also allow another person who would be really excited about the opportunity to suddenly have their name come up. Please think before you post.
 
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Hey cat, to be very clear, I turned mine down because in the past few days the variant has canceled gigs, work and life. My choice was to not only be financially responsible, but to also allow another person who would be really excited about the opportunity to suddenly have their name come up. Please think before you post.
Yup, as I said I'm totally fine with it, and I appreciate everyone that has decided not to buy letting me know, and I'm sure the people that were able to buy as a result are appreciative of the second chance.
 
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Not directed at anyone in particular but offering a little unsolicited advice on something I see all over TB...If a few hundred bucks isn't disposable income then you may not want to be in the bass pedal market to begin with. A technique I use, if it's a WANT and not a need I won't buy until I can buy 10 of them. Work hard, play hard!
 
So the question is, do I switch EVERYTHING over to handwired and raise prices a little (probably $20-40 depending on model), or do I continue with SMD as my main thing and do handwired as a case-by-case occasional thing?

How hard would it be for you to offer both for a time? I don't know exactly how you're doing it but It looks like you let the orders come in, then order the parts, then build the pedals.
You could offer handwired as an option for 2-3 months and see what happens. When the overwhelming majority orders handwired and only occasional orders for smd versions come in, you'll have your answer. Let's just hope it's not 50/50 ...
 
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So the question is, do I switch EVERYTHING over to handwired and raise prices a little (probably $20-40 depending on model), or do I continue with SMD as my main thing and do handwired as a case-by-case occasional thing?

how much will production slow if you handwire everything? I think offering it as an option would be your best bet.
 
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How hard would it be for you to offer both for a time? I don't know exactly how you're doing it but It looks like you let the orders come in, then order the parts, then build the pedals.
You could offer handwired as an option for 2-3 months and see what happens. When the overwhelming majority orders handwired and only occasional orders for smd versions come in, you'll have your answer. Let's just hope it's not 50/50 ...
I did think about that, like the way I phased out the mini-tube versions for the X series. And you're correct, for my typical monthly batches I take all the orders before I order the parts I need. It wouldn't be a big issue if I were to offer both like I did when I was phasing out the mini-tube versions for the X series, then when orders for the handwired start to eclipse those for the SMD versions I can start dropping off SMD options.

how much will production slow if you handwire everything? I think offering it as an option would be your best bet.
It wouldn't slow it that much. It does take extra time, but if I'm going direct to the circuit board instead of using turrets it's only a little more time. The turrets are super neat, but they obviously don't add anything sonically, they add "mojo" at the expense of cost and time.

A mixed ordering approach would also be a good idea at first as it would give me time to move more of my designs over to the handwired layout, currently I only have 3 designed like that, and actually those 3 haven't even arrived yet, I just ordered them last week :P
 
Not directed at anyone in particular but offering a little unsolicited advice on something I see all over TB...If a few hundred bucks isn't disposable income then you may not want to be in the bass pedal market to begin with. A technique I use, if it's a WANT and not a need I won't buy until I can buy 10 of them. Work hard, play hard!
Yeah, see, I would just end up buying 10 pedals at that point lol
 
Hey cat, to be very clear, I turned mine down because in the past few days the variant has canceled gigs, work and life. My choice was to not only be financially responsible, but to also allow another person who would be really excited about the opportunity to suddenly have their name come up. Please think before you post.
I am sorry if you feel offended - my main concern was to see the hand wired specials continue in some form and it sounded like Nathan was having serious doubts about doing them at all . I know stuff comes up suddenly as happened to you and it proved not to be an issue for SB after all but that didn't seem to be the case in his first post . I did not call anyone out by name either - I just thought that it would truly be a shame if the specials ended due to the messy lottery process . There was plenty of thought involved in my post whether you agree with my logic or not .... As i said though I do apologise for any ruffled feathers ... Kelly
 
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I am sorry if you feel offended - my main concern was to see the hand wired specials continue in some form and it sounded like Nathan was having serious doubts about doing them at all . I know stuff comes up suddenly as happened to you and it proved not to be an issue for SB after all but that didn't seem to be the case in his first post . I did not call anyone out by name either - I just thought that it would truly be a shame if the specials ended due to the messy lottery process . There was plenty of thought involved in my post whether you agree with my logic or not .... As i said though I do apologise for any ruffled feathers ... Kelly
Yeah I think the lottery was the best way to go for the process, rather than "try your luck as we all overload the website" as I've done in the past, but it was more work on my end. So now I'm leaning toward offering handwired as a standard option every month just without turrets and without the wooden faceplates.

I'm going to have to take a look and see which designs I'll be able to pull in, as obviously not everything will be able to fit in the same size package as it is now. I was able to fit UA, Slampegg, and Finally, the boards for which should be here next week.
 
I blow 100% of my gun allowance on other stuff.

Pedals are so moreish. I'm making steady progress on bass, but I got to pro level on pedals pretty quickly.

On the shelf Fluffy Kitten, Vintage Microtubes Ultra, MXR M87, another Hyper Luminal, Boss NS2. This is after purging out over a dozen other pedals.
 

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I'm also looking to add some modulation to my shelf. Any chance the old multi-fx pedal (I forget the name but something about an octopus?) will make it's way back in the new year?
I kinda already had one an GT1000core I recently traded away. I should seriously just get another. You could in all reality sell away all your pedals and run just that with extra foot switches. I recreated darkglass tones, boss tones, MXR tones. That and maybe the finally could be a one stop shop for 99% of players.
 
I'm also looking to add some modulation to my shelf. Any chance the old multi-fx pedal (I forget the name but something about an octopus?) will make it's way back in the new year?
Do you mean the Robot Butterfly? That pedal is currently archived but there have been discussions, it also uses the FV1 chip that is becoming scarce and takes extra programming time.

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I kinda already had one an GT1000core I recently traded away. I should seriously just get another. You could in all reality sell away all your pedals and run just that with extra foot switches. I recreated darkglass tones, boss tones, MXR tones. That and maybe the finally could be a one stop shop for 99% of players.

Beware, this could re-open a discussion I've seen already on different TB threads. I'm sure all sushi or broughton lovers know they could replace their entire boards by a digital device… BUT…

:)