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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

That's my current conundrum. I have two different Cioks power supplies (DC5 and DC10) but they max out at 300 mA and 400mA respectively. I really don't want to buy a DC7 if I don't have to. I might just use a One Spot I have in the closet, but it would prefer to just use one power supply and I'm already invested in the Cioks format because of the cables... and Cioks are awesome. I'll do testing when the UA arrives.

I ran both the Particle Accelerator and the Underground Accelerator off a Cioks Adam.
I bought a Y cable to get the juice from both strong outlets (can't remember if they are 250 or 300 each), but they were running fine from a single outlet.
The Dr. W is running two tubes, so it draws more current - but it should be fine with a Y cable.
 
I’m thinking of adding a Space Heater to my board for a little added breakup to the input of my SVT-II non pro. The SVT is already very fat and round, and the tone is good, so tone controls are unnecessary. The hope is the extra push and breakup from the SH might add just enough dirt to roll off the sharp edges, especially at lower volumes.
Do you guys think this will be a good fit or will it sound a little woolly? Is the SH more useful for fattening a dryer amp? Thanks.
 
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I’m thinking of adding a Space Heater to my board for a little added breakup to the input of my SVT-II non pro. The SVT is already very fat and round, and the tone is good, so tone controls are unnecessary. The hope is the extra push and breakup from the SH might add just enough dirt to roll off the sharp edges, especially at lower volumes.
Do you guys think this will be a good fit or will it sound a little woolly? Is the SH more useful for fattening a dryer amp? Thanks.
I'm obviously biased so I hope we can find someone else that can speak to it, but I think Space Heater should work out well for you. If you're putting it into something bright it can warm it up, but if you're putting it into something already warm it won't get muddy, it should just add a little extra "punchiness".
 
I’m thinking of adding a Space Heater to my board for a little added breakup to the input of my SVT-II non pro. The SVT is already very fat and round, and the tone is good, so tone controls are unnecessary. The hope is the extra push and breakup from the SH might add just enough dirt to roll off the sharp edges, especially at lower volumes.
Do you guys think this will be a good fit or will it sound a little woolly? Is the SH more useful for fattening a dryer amp? Thanks.
I run my SHs' (I own two) into a solid state amp.
I absolutely believe it'll be a good fit, and won't be woolly at all.
 
Oh weird, I had never heard of it. I didn't have Lab Rat available as a product when this was released (looks like 2019) but I have a video on youtube of the very first Lab Rat prototype including posts on DIYstompboxes where I used the name Lab Rat in 2017. So I win :P Not that I object to anyone else using the name, it's not much of a stretch from Rat to Lab Rat.

Also that looks like it's just a straight Rat clone with a diode switch and the ruetz mod.
 
Oh weird, I had never heard of it. I didn't have Lab Rat available as a product when this was released (looks like 2019) but I have a video on youtube of the very first Lab Rat prototype including posts on DIYstompboxes where I used the name Lab Rat in 2017. So I win :p Not that I object to anyone else using the name, it's not much of a stretch from Rat to Lab Rat.

Also that looks like it's just a straight Rat clone with a diode switch and the ruetz mod.
The Sushi Box FX Lab Rat is still unique being a tube driven pedal as well as utilizing the Baxandall tone stack, if I were in need of a Rat type dirt box it would be a top contender.
 
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@Sushi Box FX A bit of a weird question here but kind of similar to how you're talking about limited runs of different paint options in the future. Would you be up for doing limited runs of discontinued pedals as well? I'd personally love to get my hands on a Sunnday Drive. I'm guessing the people that bought them love them quite a bit since I never see them on Reverb haha.
 
@Sushi Box FX A bit of a weird question here but kind of similar to how you're talking about limited runs of different paint options in the future. Would you be up for doing limited runs of discontinued pedals as well? I'd personally love to get my hands on a Sunnday Drive. I'm guessing the people that bought them love them quite a bit since I never see them on Reverb haha.

Another approach towards that could be that Mr. Sushi specifies a minimum amount of pedal orders to do a run. Let's say he has to order parts for that pedal and those come in dozens, he could say if ten orders come together he'll do a run and put the remaining two up for sale on the website. If you really want that pedal, you put up your order and wait.
 
Another approach towards that could be that Mr. Sushi specifies a minimum amount of pedal orders to do a run. Let's say he has to order parts for that pedal and those come in dozens, he could say if ten orders come together he'll do a run and put the remaining two up for sale on the website. If you really want that pedal, you put up your order and wait.

I'm up for any method he'd want to use if it means being able to buy direct from him. I could see preordering with nonrefundable deposits as well. Deposits would cover the cost of more expensive/harder to get items. So then even if someone drops their preorder, everyone else is still covered and Sushi can sell the extra one for full price.
 
@Sushi Box FX A bit of a weird question here but kind of similar to how you're talking about limited runs of different paint options in the future. Would you be up for doing limited runs of discontinued pedals as well? I'd personally love to get my hands on a Sunnday Drive. I'm guessing the people that bought them love them quite a bit since I never see them on Reverb haha.
I mean it's doable, the only reason I discontinued it was because of low demand, there isn't anything components-wise that would be difficult to procure. That being said I continue updating designs as I find new methods, and the Sunnday Drive design would need an update which would take some time on my part. As for ordering parts, there is a 5-piece minimum when I order circuit boards, but obviously the more I order the lower the price is. So I think I could reasonably say if 5 or more people wanted something and were willing to commit to purchase I could make it happen, but when I set "stock" prices for pedals I typically plan for ordering quantity of 20, so the price would have to go up a little for lower quantities.

What is the difference in sound between SMD and HW?
Per the FAQ on the website:
Up until now all builds have been using surface-mount (SMD or SMT) components for cost and ease of assembly. Currently these are mostly placed via pick-and-place machine in the same factory that manufactures the circuit boards themselves. There are a handful of specialty components that the factory doesn’t stock that are added by hand at Sushi Box, but the rest are done by machine. Hand-wired uses more traditional through-hole components that you’re likely to see in tube amplifiers, like carbon-composition resistors and film capacitors. There’s plenty of debate on the “sound” of different component materials and it’s extremely subjective so I won’t get into that. One very audible difference, however, is the voltage at which the tubes are run. In typical SMD builds I use 250V capacitors for cost and size reasons, so I run the circuits around 240V. The capacitors I use in the handwired builds range from 400V to 630V, which allows me to run the circuits around 350V. The difference in voltage gives the handwired circuits a noticeably warmer, fuller sound.
 
I mean it's doable, the only reason I discontinued it was because of low demand, there isn't anything components-wise that would be difficult to procure. That being said I continue updating designs as I find new methods, and the Sunnday Drive design would need an update which would take some time on my part. As for ordering parts, there is a 5-piece minimum when I order circuit boards, but obviously the more I order the lower the price is. So I think I could reasonably say if 5 or more people wanted something and were willing to commit to purchase I could make it happen, but when I set "stock" prices for pedals I typically plan for ordering quantity of 20, so the price would have to go up a little for lower quantities.

I remember long ago back in the Stone Ago (analog age?) some message boards would do group buys. A minimum number of orders would be set by the manufacturer and they would agree to a set ordering date. If the numbers were met then the order was placed. It was nice because it set a price, had limited options, and you usually ended up with something kinda rare and unique. I’m sure that still happens, but I just haven’t seen one in a long time.
 
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