The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

[Hasty]

Agreed, tubes aren’t that fragile. My amps all have tube preamps and they’ve been through hell and back.
Zero issues with the tubes.
Its just that some amps if a tube goes, the entire amp goes. Like old Marshalls or old mesa 800.

Very true... however the Cool thing about it being in a pedal feeding into a Class D head is I can just click the True Bypass foot switch and carry on. I think that's why pedals like this appeal to me... it's like a cool sound with a great failsafe option

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Very true... however the Cool thing about it being in a pedal feeding into a Class D head is I can just click the True Bypass foot switch and carry on. I think that's why pedals like this appeal to me... it's like a cool sound with a great failsafe option

now thats a genius feature to have.

 

[Sushi Box FX]

Very true... however the Cool thing about it being in a pedal feeding into a Class D head is I can just click the True Bypass foot switch and carry on. I think that's why pedals like this appeal to me... it's like a cool sound with a great failsafe option

Yup, that's the main reason I put switches in things even if I'm planning on them being always-on. If something goes bad in the middle of a gig, you need to be able to bypass it without having to futz with cables on stage.

 

[NKBassman]

Yup, that's the main reason I put switches in things even if I'm planning on them being always-on. If something goes bad in the middle of a gig, you need to be able to bypass it without having to futz with cables on stage.

I forget, are your pedals true bypass?

 

[Sushi Box FX]

I forget, are your pedals true bypass?

Yessir, true bypass for everything.

One quick note that I omitted, the XLR output on Finally is preamp out only, the true bypass switch only affects the 1/4" output on that one. I could add another switch to allow it to run as a passive D.I., but it would make the layout a lot trickier and probably make the HW version impossible.

 

[dedpool1052]

AT7s in both now.
SMD is leaner on low-end, and feels more mid/high focused.
HW seems to fill out the low-end, and slightly soften the highs.

These 3 altogether sounds pretty awesome.
The voice of each SH, and character of the AM, compliment eachother well.

However, I can accomplish the same just by running my DW by itself.

Either way,
The cost of the new tubes was worth the experiment, and will probably save me money if/when I order a new SB, and already have 2 tubes on hand.

 

[Giff]

^^^^^^^I concur. I have 2 UAs, 1 SMD and 1 HW. The difference is subtle, but real. Which way to go is a personal decision based on one's cash flow. If the extra few rubles is just background noise in your budget, then HW all the way for the win. If the extra dead presidents will mean passing on an enjoyable bite/brew out, then I'd happily go SMD and enjoy a few hours out with zero regrets.....no wrong answers here.

On an unrelated note, after having had quite a bit of time to groove to my new HW Slampegg X pre, I am pleasantly surprised by how different a flavour it provides as compared to the UA and SH. All keepers

I have owned my Slampegg Bee X for a while now running at the start of my chain post tuner, and I really like it! Does anyone know if the EQ is considered flat with the knobs at noon? I run my treble at around 3pm and bass around 1:30pm. Sounds great, but I am just curious about others’ experiences.

 

[Giff]

I have also found that the JJ ECC83s shaves off some high frequency content, so I wonder if anyone has rolled other 12AX7s through their Slampegg.

 

[lomo]

Does anyone know if the EQ is considered flat with the knobs at noon? I run my treble at around 3pm and bass around 1:30pm. Sounds great, but I am just curious about others’ experiences.

Yes with both at noon it's flat. This link (prev posted by Sushi Master) the perfect easy way to grasp both Bax and Fender tone stacks. The Slampegg uses Baxandall.
TSC in the web

 

[Giff]

Yes with both at noon it's flat. This link (prev posted by Sushi Master) the perfect easy way to grasp both Bax and Fender tone stacks. The Slampegg uses Baxandall.
TSC in the web

Thank you kindly!

 

[Sushi Box FX]

I have also found that the JJ ECC83s shaves off some high frequency content, so I wonder if anyone has rolled other 12AX7s through their Slampegg.

It's worth noting that some people (myself included) like the Slampegg sound with a lower gain tube like a 12AT7 or 5751. If you're specifically looking for a brighter sound than the JJ, I would recommend checking out Chinese tubes like Sino, Genalex, or Psvane, which are generally brighter, and avoiding Russian tubes like Sovtek, EHX, and Tung-Sol, which tend to be a bit warmer/darker.

 

[Giff]

It's worth noting that some people (myself included) like the Slampegg sound with a lower gain tube like a 12AT7 or 5751. If you're specifically looking for a brighter sound than the JJ, I would recommend checking out Chinese tubes like Sino, Genalex, or Psvane, which are generally brighter, and avoiding Russian tubes like Sovtek, EHX, and Tung-Sol, which tend to be a bit warmer/darker.

I have a Genalex Gold Lion I will try. Thank you for the recommendation!

 

[morrisonhendrix]

There's so much MORE on the way.

 

[NKBassman]

I have a Genalex Gold Lion I will try. Thank you for the recommendation!

A Genalex Gold Lion 12AX7 was the winner when I was rolling tubes in my Verellen Meatsmoke. The differences were subtle to say the least, but the Genalex sounded best in that first gain stage.

 

[dedpool1052]

Had a crazy idea for Señor Sushi.

An SS, with the foundation being the DW.


First channel is one tube using both gain stages, like the upcoming Elementary.
Second channel uses both tubes, and all 4 gain stages, like the SS.

I know the DW uses 2 tubes, and three of the available gain stages.

Señor Sushi says the Elementary uses 1 tube, both gain stages, and has the DW clean side down.

A second channel, like the SS, utilizing the second tube, and both additional gain stages, would be a great pedal, in my mind.

 

[Giff]

A Genalex Gold Lion 12AX7 was the winner when I was rolling tubes in my Verellen Meatsmoke. The differences were subtle to say the least, but the Genalex sounded best in that first gain stage.

The Genalex sounds great in everything I have tried it, and the Slampegg Bee is no exception. It is more detailed and clear. It seems like there is a little less gain, so I have the gain knob at the same spot, but I have to turn my bass down less to keep from overdriving the input, but it’s still there if I dig in. To my ear - the gain control also brings some midrange with it, so I get why a lower-gain tube seems to be preferred in this circuit. Nice!!!

 

[bassbrad]

Got thru putting the HW UA on my board in place of the UA with very satisfying results. To my ear it sounds a bit more open & deep giving a better voice to my effects heavy sounds. Can't wait to hear what the MORE will bring out.

 

[casual_platypus]

Hi all! First post on TB.

Last month I got a HW Slampegg and I adore how it sounds. Gigged with it last week through a Little Mark Vintage and it was killer. I ordered More for this month, and it got here today! Sadly, it's bringing out a lot of serious issues in the Slampegg that I initially swept under the rug.

When both are in the signal chain together, I get some awful ringing noises that only get worse with either pedal on. I have isolated power (Cioks 8), and I tried giving one of them a separate wall wart line (enough current as well, it has 500mA), no dice. With either one in the chain by themselves, there is no issue, no noise, no ringing.

When at home, I've just been going straight out of the Slampegg into a mixer; with the pedal on and the gain + master cranked, I notice a significant volume drop strangely. I've tried the Slampegg as a preamp in my guitar rig, and with buffers before and after it (I think that's what is helping, buffers maybe?) it sounds huge! Tons of gain, very loud. Straight into the mixer, very quiet. I also noticed that the mixer reads a relatively high db input when the Slampegg is on and I am not playing, but the audible noise floor remains quiet similar, so I'm wondering if there is something wrong with the output stage of my pedal? It seems like there is either inaudible noise it's generating or loading the preamps in some strange way, not sure. To further explore this, I disconnected the input of the Slampegg and just sent the output to my mixer, and the pedal turned into a really loud oscillator! I could change the pitch by moving the pots. It was awful, I heard my downstairs neighbors say "oooo" out loud with contempt; I tried the same thing with More, but it just boosted the background noise that you get when nothing is in the input jack. Something seems wrong with my Slampegg. I know More is a brand new pedal, but it doesn't seem to be the culprit here. Using it by itself (no Slampegg in the chain), zero issues; it's a boost, and a great sounding one! Only when the two are together. Oh and I get terrible popping noises when engaging usually silent pedals if the Slampegg is on.

This has all been fine since the Slampegg still sounds great, even with a volume drop. Now however, with More behind it, there is this terrible ringing noise and nothing I've tried has gotten rid of it. I'm curious if anyone else here has had any similar issues, or if you might have input to try and remedy this. Thanks!

tl;dr - awful ringing noise when using HW Slampegg with More, slampegg volume drop, turns into a synth oscillator with no input

 

[SemiDriven]

Hi all! First post on TB.

Last month I got a HW Slampegg and I adore how it sounds. Gigged with it last week through a Little Mark Vintage and it was killer. I ordered More for this month, and it got here today! Sadly, it's bringing out a lot of serious issues in the Slampegg that I initially swept under the rug.

When both are in the signal chain together, I get some awful ringing noises that only get worse with either pedal on. I have isolated power (Cioks 8), and I tried giving one of them a separate wall wart line (enough current as well, it has 500mA), no dice. With either one in the chain by themselves, there is no issue, no noise, no ringing.

When at home, I've just been going straight out of the Slampegg into a mixer; with the pedal on and the gain + master cranked, I notice a significant volume drop strangely. I've tried the Slampegg as a preamp in my guitar rig, and with buffers before and after it (I think that's what is helping, buffers maybe?) it sounds huge! Tons of gain, very loud. Straight into the mixer, very quiet. I also noticed that the mixer reads a relatively high db input when the Slampegg is on and I am not playing, but the audible noise floor remains quiet similar, so I'm wondering if there is something wrong with the output stage of my pedal? It seems like there is either inaudible noise it's generating or loading the preamps in some strange way, not sure. To further explore this, I disconnected the input of the Slampegg and just sent the output to my mixer, and the pedal turned into a really loud oscillator! I could change the pitch by moving the pots. It was awful, I heard my downstairs neighbors say "oooo" out loud with contempt; I tried the same thing with More, but it just boosted the background noise that you get when nothing is in the input jack. Something seems wrong with my Slampegg. I know More is a brand new pedal, but it doesn't seem to be the culprit here. Using it by itself (no Slampegg in the chain), zero issues; it's a boost, and a great sounding one! Only when the two are together. Oh and I get terrible popping noises when engaging usually silent pedals if the Slampegg is on.

This has all been fine since the Slampegg still sounds great, even with a volume drop. Now however, with More behind it, there is this terrible ringing noise and nothing I've tried has gotten rid of it. I'm curious if anyone else here has had any similar issues, or if you might have input to try and remedy this. Thanks!

tl;dr - awful ringing noise when using HW Slampegg with More, slampegg volume drop, turns into a synth oscillator with no input

Try experimenting with a buffer and/or compressor between them.

Dr. SushiBox is also feverishly working on this!

Edit: Congrats on your 1st post!

 

[casual_platypus]

Try experimenting with a buffer and/or compressor between them.

Thanks for reading through my ramblings!

OKAY - good news! A buffer after the Slampegg (MXR 10 band) fixed the volume drop and mysterious leveling issues with the mixer! I also couldn't seem to recreate the oscillator I described; I suspect I had the pedal on one of the low current outputs of my PSU.

Onto 'More' - I now think this is the source of my problems. I tired a buffer in between the two, no joy, but I think I found the issue: microphonic tubes or a broken heater... maybe? When bypassed in the signal chain with no power, all is good. When I plug in the power (pedal still bypassed, using a high current wall wart), the noise and nasty ringing gradually increase as it heats up, making me think it might be an issue with the heater or one of the tubes itself? I also noticed that it began amplifying any vibrations it felt when turned on - that's a microphonic tube, right? So yeah, buffers fixed my issues with the Slampegg, but nothing fixed the ringing when I put More (bypassed or not) in the signal chain (aside from unplugging the power that is).

What's my best path to get this fixed? Send it back? Ask for a new tube?