The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

[Sugarbear08]

I have

There were a few of us who had some comments about it. You need More. Everyone needs More. More is More.

True enough, but I continue to have a very vague impression of this device.

When I ponder what I've heard, my feeling is "tone more-better-er".

 

[johnk_10]

Hello @Sushi Box FX
Have you ever experienced an original Traynor YBA-1/1A?
As I plugged into mine yesterday for the first time in a while, I was reminded of how much I love this amp.
I wonder if anyone has ever captured its preamp in a pedal? That would be something to write home about.

i think it would be great sounding in a Sushibox pedal format. they were cool sounding heads.

 

[JackFawkes]

I've always been curious if Nathan's ever tinkered with the idea of a Trace Elliot inspired preamp...

 

[mmbongo]

I'm curious to hear some initial reviews on MORE... unless I missed a few pages of this thread, I haven't seen much chatter since the first batch went out.

I'm pulling my ad for the MORE as I was really only selling it because right after I bought it, I did a stupid (Taylor acoustic guitar related) thing and I just need some quick cash but I've had no interest and I really like it so I'm keeping it and selling something else

Best way I can describe the MORE is that it opens things up. Lows are a little deeper and clearer, highs are a little higher with some 'air'. Now it's not an 'in for face' type of thing where you obviously know it when you turn it off but it really shines through headphones/recording.

I made a quick and dirty clip. This is me strumming the strings pretty hard, as that makes it a little more easy to hear what the MORE is doing. First is 10 or so seconds with NO MORE then 10 or so with the MORE on. Notice my fingers hitting the strings in the first section is kind of muted and dull but you can really hear my nails hitting the strings with the MORE on.

https://chuckamuck.us/more.wav

 

[bonin in the boneyard]

Hello @Sushi Box FX
Have you ever experienced an original Traynor YBA-1/1A?
As I plugged into mine yesterday for the first time in a while, I was reminded of how much I love this amp.
I wonder if anyone has ever captured its preamp in a pedal? That would be something to write home about.

FWIW, my all-time favorite bass head is my YBA-200. The Dr. Wattson is different, but gives me what I love about the Traynor. It's worth a shot if you can find one to borrow or buy used.

 

[lomo]

I am all in for a Traynor inspired Loonie

 

[JDLowEnd]

I'm pulling my ad for the MORE as I was really only selling it because right after I bought it, I did a stupid (Taylor acoustic guitar related) thing and I just need some quick cash but I've had no interest and I really like it so I'm keeping it and selling something else

Best way I can describe the MORE is that it opens things up. Lows are a little deeper and clearer, highs are a little higher with some 'air'. Now it's not an 'in for face' type of thing where you obviously know it when you turn it off but it really shines through headphones/recording.

I made a quick and dirty clip. This is me strumming the strings pretty hard, as that makes it a little more easy to hear what the MORE is doing. First is 10 or so seconds with NO MORE then 10 or so with the MORE on. Notice my fingers hitting the strings in the first section is kind of muted and dull but you can really hear my nails hitting the strings with the MORE on.

https://chuckamuck.us/more.wav

What do you use for a DI? I have a finally at the end of my chain, but my other pedals are digital (dg adam and hx stomp) I am wondering about getting a MORE and placing that in the middle and using the adam as a DI. I like the finally, but more tubes is always the choice.

 

[mmbongo]

What do you use for a DI? I have a finally at the end of my chain, but my other pedals are digital (dg adam and hx stomp) I am wondering about getting a MORE and placing that in the middle and using the adam as a DI. I like the finally, but more tubes is always the choice.

I use a Broughton Messenger for a DI. If I didn't have that, I would likely be using a Finally with the Broughton LP/HP filter pedal.

 

[JDLowEnd]

I use a Broughton Messenger for a DI. If I didn't have that, I would likely be using a Finally with the Broughton LP/HP filter pedal.

Okay thanks, I recently sold my messenger as I wasn't really using any of the features except the headphone amp. The hx has filter options which leaves me not wanting another hpf/lpf. I do still have a studio boost floating around that I want to put in the chain before the finally, but not enough room on the nano+

 

[NKBassman]

I'm pulling my ad for the MORE as I was really only selling it because right after I bought it, I did a stupid (Taylor acoustic guitar related) thing and I just need some quick cash but I've had no interest and I really like it so I'm keeping it and selling something else

Best way I can describe the MORE is that it opens things up. Lows are a little deeper and clearer, highs are a little higher with some 'air'. Now it's not an 'in for face' type of thing where you obviously know it when you turn it off but it really shines through headphones/recording.

I made a quick and dirty clip. This is me strumming the strings pretty hard, as that makes it a little more easy to hear what the MORE is doing. First is 10 or so seconds with NO MORE then 10 or so with the MORE on. Notice my fingers hitting the strings in the first section is kind of muted and dull but you can really hear my nails hitting the strings with the MORE on.

https://chuckamuck.us/more.wav

Thanks. From what I remember of the Deep Dish it was subtle but definitely enhancement when it was on. Deeper without adding mud, clearer without adding zing or hiss. The sort of "3D sound" people always talk about with tubes without actually being able to describe what that means. I'm not sure how much I would "need" it on a live gig board, but I'm sure it would be a nice thing to bring to a tracking session or something.

I definitely eyed your FS ad, and then my car died and I had to tow it to the shop last night.

 

[mmbongo]

Okay thanks, I recently sold my messenger as I wasn't really using any of the features except the headphone amp. The hx has filter options which leaves me not wanting another hpf/lpf. I do still have a studio boost floating around that I want to put in the chain before the finally, but not enough room on the nano+

I know the pain! I had to upgrade to a Pedaltrain Jr.

 

[mmbongo]

Thanks. From what I remember of the Deep Dish it was subtle but definitely enhancement when it was on. Deeper without adding mud, clearer without adding zing or hiss. The sort of "3D sound" people always talk about with tubes without actually being able to describe what that means. I'm not sure how much I would "need" it on a live gig board, but I'm sure it would be a nice thing to bring to a tracking session or something.

I definitely eyed your FS ad, and then my car died and I had to tow it to the shop last night.

Yep that's a great description.

Sorry about the car, that's never fun.

 

[NKBassman]

Yep that's a great description.

I just remembered how I described it when I first got my Deep Dish way back when... what it did to the sound of my bass was like putting on a pair of prescription glasses for the first time, or focusing a camera lens (for those who don't wear glasses).

 

[Hasty]

I finished up a creation that I've wanted for a long while, but never could have done it without the amazingly generous nature of @Sushi Box FX . His DIY Space Heater board gave me the flexibility to make a lunchbox preamp/DI that not only works great, but exists in a form factor that makes it more practical to me than a standard pedal. When playing Double Bass, I really don't like using pedals. I don't like the cables and board on the ground where my end pin rests, and I've pulled pedals off the top of my amp when I just have a single one sitting up there. I know, I know... first world problems for sure. I almost bought a Sarno Black Box, but it doesn't have the DI option I wanted. So I cobbled this together and it works so nicely for me. I've used it on 6 or 7 gigs already and it does exactly what I need. Don't get me wrong... I also love my HW UA on electric bass and it's become an essential part of my tone for both fretted and fretless bass.

The details:

I took the DIY Space Heater PCB, and put an HPF filter in front of it. The HPF did two amazing things for me. First, it's an HPF (yay). Second, it gave me a buffer that helps with the high impedance of my Yamahiko pickup and feeds a signal into the Space Heater that is a more palatable 100 ohms on the output side. Plus, when I'm playing DB those are the only two things I ever really want in my signal chain. That Space Heater with a Psvane 12AT7 is just the most wonderful combination for Double Bass ever. Not really fuzz, not really tube compression, but something else entirely. It's intangibly perfect when my piezo runs through it.

(We're not gonna talk about how I accidentally swapped the position of the Level and Gain labels... I was holding the PCB upside down when creating the artwork and this is my only piece of waterslide decal paper... for Gods sake Jim I'm a musician not a graphic artist!).

Everything is powered by a Mean Well RS-15-12 that gives me a steady 12v and 1.3 amps. This is especially great for me because everything else I use takes a standard IEC power cable. I always have 4 or 5 of them in the back of my car. I only have a single One Spot. As great as it is... my odds of forgetting that One Spot are extremely high. This helps significantly with that potential issue. I also chose to put a Lightning Boy transformer in there, because they're awesome. The toggle lets me flip a switch to determine if the XLR balanced out is run through the Space Heater, or bypassed and just run direct from the input signal of the bass and the HPF. The small button on the lower right is the true bypass for both XLR balanced out and the 1/4" output to the amp. The black knob is the HPF.

The wiring could be a little cleaner, but this is the first time I've used silicon hookup wire and it was a little weird to work with. It is a little more squiggly (?) than the regular old hook up wire I'm used to... but I like it. If I ever build another I'll plan out some better runs and maybe incorporate some sort of loom or harness to clean things up. The other tiny PCB coming off the push button is an Uber relay switch from TH Custom. A super cool little true bypass that also has a momentary mute capability when switching off and on. It allowed me to use an illuminated LED ring momentary switch on the front panel that flush mounts. Oh the enclosure is a Hammond 513-0900 steel enclosure. Now that I've built it, I realize I could have gone a little smaller... but from an ergonomic standpoint this really does work out nicely. Plus adding that drawer pull to the top that I found in my parts bin really helps.

 

[NKBassman]

Sorry about the car, that's never fun.

Just got the quote... $1800 to get it up and running again!
I guess I won't be getting a MORE any time soon.

 

[NKBassman]

I finished up a creation that I've wanted for a long while, but never could have done it without the amazingly generous nature of @Sushi Box FX . His DIY Space Heater board gave me the flexibility to make a lunchbox preamp/DI that not only works great, but exists in a form factor that makes it more practical to me than a standard pedal. When playing Double Bass, I really don't like using pedals. I don't like the cables and board on the ground where my end pin rests, and I've pulled pedals off the top of my amp when I just have a single one sitting up there. I know, I know... first world problems for sure. I almost bought a Sarno Black Box, but it doesn't have the DI option I wanted. So I cobbled this together and it works so nicely for me. I've used it on 6 or 7 gigs already and it does exactly what I need. Don't get me wrong... I also love my HW UA on electric bass and it's become an essential part of my tone for both fretted and fretless bass.

The details:

I took the DIY Space Heater PCB, and put an HPF filter in front of it. The HPF did two amazing things for me. First, it's an HPF (yay). Second, it gave me a buffer that helps with the high impedance of my Yamahiko pickup and feeds a signal into the Space Heater that is a more palatable 100 ohms on the output side. Plus, when I'm playing DB those are the only two things I ever really want in my signal chain. That Space Heater with a Psvane 12AT7 is just the most wonderful combination for Double Bass ever. Not really fuzz, not really tube compression, but something else entirely. It's intangibly perfect when my piezo runs through it.

(We're not gonna talk about how I accidentally swapped the position of the Level and Gain labels... I was holding the PCB upside down when creating the artwork and this is my only piece of waterslide decal paper... for Gods sake Jim I'm a musician not a graphic artist!).

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Everything is powered by a Mean Well RS-15-12 that gives me a steady 12v and 1.3 amps. This is especially great for me because everything else I use takes a standard IEC power cable. I always have 4 or 5 of them in the back of my car. I only have a single One Spot. As great as it is... my odds of forgetting that One Spot are extremely high. This helps significantly with that potential issue. I also chose to put a Lightning Boy transformer in there, because they're awesome. The toggle lets me flip a switch to determine if the XLR balanced out is run through the Space Heater, or bypassed and just run direct from the input signal of the bass and the HPF. The small button on the lower right is the true bypass for both XLR balanced out and the 1/4" output to the amp. The black knob is the HPF.

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The wiring could be a little cleaner, but this is the first time I've used silicon hookup wire and it was a little weird to work with. It is a little more squiggly (?) than the regular old hook up wire I'm used to... but I like it. If I ever build another I'll plan out some better runs and maybe incorporate some sort of loom or harness to clean things up. The other tiny PCB coming off the push button is an Uber relay switch from TH Custom. A super cool little true bypass that also has a momentary mute capability when switching off and on. It allowed me to use an illuminated LED ring momentary switch on the front panel that flush mounts. Oh the enclosure is a Hammond 513-0900 steel enclosure. Now that I've built it, I realize I could have gone a little smaller... but from an ergonomic standpoint this really does work out nicely. Plus adding that drawer pull to the top that I found in my parts bin really helps.

Great work!

 

[mmbongo]

Just got the quote... $1800 to get it up and running again!
I guess I won't be getting a MORE any time soon.

Darn priorities!

 

[bassbrad]

@Hasty stellar work, very professional lookig and a sweet looking bass too boot.
@NKBassman sorry about your car.

About the MORE and the nearly indescribably Jenny in Sequins as a dear friend used to say quality, perhaps that should have been the name. Last nite I tried my eub with just the MORE > JDI into Alto TX310 ---WOW!

 

[Sushi Box FX]

Well it looks like Elementary is on the menu for October ordering. @casual_platypus was gracious enough to agree to try it out on short notice and put it through its paces, and it looks like it's good to go.

 

[Sushi Box FX]

Hello @Sushi Box FX
Have you ever experienced an original Traynor YBA-1/1A?
As I plugged into mine yesterday for the first time in a while, I was reminded of how much I love this amp.
I wonder if anyone has ever captured its preamp in a pedal? That would be something to write home about.

I haven't heard one in person, but I have heard good things about it. Looking at the schematic it's actually the exact same topography as the Sunn Model T, so it could be built on my Sunnday Drive circuit board with a couple component swaps. Looking at the numbers I imagine it having a hugely fat front end, and the tonestack is voiced a little different, a little more mellow trebles, brighter mids, and rich lows than a typical fender stack. Could be neat for sure.