The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

[smeet]

Hi @smeet
So to be honest you just described a couple of aspects of the upcoming Venus X.
Its an active 4 band eq but also had a “lowend bump switch” and it’s tube saturated without necessary distortion but saturation (even in excess, depending on how much you want).

This sounds right for you.

Aaaaaaand…. sold!!!

 

[Parzival]

Forgot to get a pic of my updated board I used for NYE with my new More pedal.
Ran tuner>More>chorus>YYZ>Finally.

Tone was outstanding.

 

[jmmyoh]

I'm late to the party but recently bought a used sunnday drive x using it as a preamp on my quilter bb800 into a boom bass cabinet matrix and it is glorious! Now I got the sushi fever and already purchased the Westinghouse over in tb classifieds. Very interested to get my hands on a more and UA with the tone stack bypass, just my luck there is no January preorders Haha. But nice to meet y'all, lurked most of this thread this weekend and wanted to say hello!

 

[smeet]

Hi @smeet
So to be honest you just described a couple of aspects of the upcoming Venus X.
Its an active 4 band eq but also had a “lowend bump switch” and it’s tube saturated without necessary distortion but saturation (even in excess, depending on how much you want).

This sounds right for you.

Hey Tony, do you have any idea when the Venus X might be coming out?

 

[crd]

I'm not sure if this is useful to anyone but I made some level matched sound samples with More and an Effectrode pc2a for my own use to try and sus out a little better how to best use More.

The audio source is a Moog Sub 37 playing an arp into a Grace Designs Felix 2 set flat. More and the pc2a are in the effects loop of the Felix. The pc2a is in limit mode with minimum peak reduction. I am then running the amp out of the Felix to UAD Apollo line-level in. All I did in my daw was level match the clips. More is pretty subtle but it followed by the pc2a sounds great to me. In a couple week's I'll post some more audio examples with my upright. My intend with more was to add some grit to the Felix when I want it.

Dropbox - More_pc2a_Samples - Simplify your life

 

[TonyP-]

Hey Tony, do you have any idea when the Venus X might be coming out?

We are looking closer to around the time of NAMM so April. I can't wait...

 

[SemiDriven]

Well, More along with the LA-1A was a treat!

Stamp of approval here!

Also tried the More with a PC-2A and Bass Empress. Also satisfying!

 

[4Mal]

We are looking closer to around the time of NAMM so April. I can't wait...

and will Venus have a familiar set of tone centers and range for the 4 band EQ? So Not Available, Maybe May ?

NYE board

 

[bassbrad]

Hey Tony, do you have any idea when the Venus X might be coming out?

and will Venus have a familiar set of tone centers and range for the 4 band EQ? So Not Available, Maybe May ?

NYE board
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[TonyP-]

and will Venus have a familiar set of tone centers and range for the 4 band EQ? So Not Available, Maybe May ?

NYE board
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The Venus X will have a familiar tone stack that is tight and punchy.
The shooting date is for NAMM.

The biggest part of the Venus X (the tone and tubes) has been worked out already.

 

[smeet]

The Venus X will have a familiar tone stack that is tight and punchy.
The shooting date is for NAMM.

The biggest part of the Venus X (the tone and tubes) has been worked out already.

I guess it will be usual rollout of SMD first and HW later.

 

[Sushi Box FX]

and will Venus have a familiar set of tone centers and range for the 4 band EQ? So Not Available, Maybe May ?

Venus will have a familiar set of tone centers and range for the 4 band EQ. Availability is hinging on one remaining piece that is being sorted out. I can throw together a quick-and-dirty solution that will work for a demo to make sure we have a fully functioning unit for the NAMM show, but I would rather push back full production until it's sexy and streamlined and I'm confident enough in the operation to put it in the hands of everyone. I try to learn from my mistakes, which means I try to err on the side of caution for new releases. Waiting sucks, but trust me and @TonyP- on this one, it will be worth the wait.

I guess it will be usual rollout of SMD first and HW later.

Correct. Not all circuits lend themselves well to handwired designs, so I'll have to take a hard look at this one. There are A LOT of components in this one, so a handwired build would take a lot of extra work to build and thus would cost a fair amount more. The handwired components cost more than SMD components, but the amount of time it takes to assemble is a bigger part of the cost difference. There are some components in this design that I've never used on anything else, and they are only available in SMD packages anyway, but I would of course look at the main audio path components and determine if I could switch them over to handwired without needing a bigger enclosure.

So short answer, yes an SMD version will come first.

 

[dedpool1052]

Venus will have a familiar set of tone centers and range for the 4 band EQ. Availability is hinging on one remaining piece that is being sorted out. I can throw together a quick-and-dirty solution that will work for a demo to make sure we have a fully functioning unit for the NAMM show, but I would rather push back full production until it's sexy and streamlined and I'm confident enough in the operation to put it in the hands of everyone. I try to learn from my mistakes, which means I try to err on the side of caution for new releases. Waiting sucks, but trust me and @TonyP- on this one, it will be worth the wait.

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Correct. Not all circuits lend themselves well to handwired designs, so I'll have to take a hard look at this one. There are A LOT of components in this one, so a handwired build would take a lot of extra work to build and thus would cost a fair amount more. The handwired components cost more than SMD components, but the amount of time it takes to assemble is a bigger part of the cost difference. There are some components in this design that I've never used on anything else, and they are only available in SMD packages anyway, but I would of course look at the main audio path components and determine if I could switch them over to handwired without needing a bigger enclosure.

So short answer, yes an SMD version will come first.

Nathan,
Will the tubes in this be lower gain, for more clean headroom?
IE, AT7/AU7s?

Basically, meant to function as a straight up preamp, rather than a preamp capable of overdrive?
(UA/DW)

 

[macmanlou]

Venus will have a familiar set of tone centers and range for the 4 band EQ.

Familiar like Fender or familiar like Baxandall?

 

[bassbrad]

Familiar like Fender or familiar like Baxandall?

It is a 4 band active EQ unlike either of those you mentioned, that is the entire point of the Venus X.

Familiar as in the style of many other 4 band active EQ * but with a @TonyP- spec and @Sushi Box FX tube spin to it.

*I would surmise that gents are remaining intentionally not specific as @TonyP- has certain obligations, we should respect that and not name names. Follow?

 

[4Mal]

The Venus X will have a familiar tone stack that is tight and punchy.
The shooting date is for NAMM.

The biggest part of the Venus X (the tone and tubes) has been worked out already.

I'm liking the sound of that!

 

[Sushi Box FX]

Nathan,
Will the tubes in this be lower gain, for more clean headroom?
IE, AT7/AU7s?

Basically, meant to function as a straight up preamp, rather than a preamp capable of overdrive?
(UA/DW)

It will take a little auditioning. The most recent prototype I sent to Tony was intentionally dialed back so even with a 12AX7 in place it doesn't overdrive, but there will also be a second channel/boost function that will be capable of overdriving the main preamp. So the intention of the product will be a standalone preamp, but I understand that some people's definition of "clean" involves having some grit/grind on tap, so we want to be able to provide both. But this is most definitely not an overdrive, and is not designed to be high-gain.

Familiar like Fender or familiar like Baxandall?

Neither Fender and Baxandall are both passive tonestacks, whereas this will be my first ever active-EQ preamp. The best description I can give while remaining intentionally vague (see brad's comment) is that the knobs react intuitively. I'm really happy with what me and @TonyP- settled on with the EQ, it feels really nice. Like you probably have some idea in your mind about what "hi-mid" and "lo-mid" mean, and turning those knobs feels like your brain expects them to, same obviously with bass and treble. I really like it. Passive tonestacks certainly have their place and are significantly easier to design, but the main complaint people typically have with them is that it's hard to really boost with a passive tonestack, especially in the mids. This was a point @smeet brought up earlier, both the Fender and Hiwatt stacks have a mids control, but it's cut only, you get the mids knob all the way up and you're stuck, you can't add more mids than are already there. An active EQ allows you to boost beyond unity.

*I would surmise that gents are remaining intentionally not specific as @TonyP- has certain obligations, we should respect that and not name names.

Well put Tony had some ideas of what he wanted this to sound like, and I was able to take his ideas and put a sushi spin on it. I can say it's not anything you can find exactly anywhere, which is why Tony came to me, but it certainly draws inspiration from fabulous things that are out there and will not be, due to professional obligations, mentioned by name.

 

[jmmyoh]

It will take a little auditioning. The most recent prototype I sent to Tony was intentionally dialed back so even with a 12AX7 in place it doesn't overdrive, but there will also be a second channel/boost function that will be capable of overdriving the main preamp. So the intention of the product will be a standalone preamp, but I understand that some people's definition of "clean" involves having some grit/grind on tap, so we want to be able to provide both. But this is most definitely not an overdrive, and is not designed to be high-gain.


Neither Fender and Baxandall are both passive tonestacks, whereas this will be my first ever active-EQ preamp. The best description I can give while remaining intentionally vague (see brad's comment) is that the knobs react intuitively. I'm really happy with what me and @TonyP- settled on with the EQ, it feels really nice. Like you probably have some idea in your mind about what "hi-mid" and "lo-mid" mean, and turning those knobs feels like your brain expects them to, same obviously with bass and treble. I really like it. Passive tonestacks certainly have their place and are significantly easier to design, but the main complaint people typically have with them is that it's hard to really boost with a passive tonestack, especially in the mids. This was a point @smeet brought up earlier, both the Fender and Hiwatt stacks have a mids control, but it's cut only, you get the mids knob all the way up and you're stuck, you can't add more mids than are already there. An active EQ allows you to boost beyond unity.



Well put Tony had some ideas of what he wanted this to sound like, and I was able to take his ideas and put a sushi spin on it. I can say it's not anything you can find exactly anywhere, which is why Tony came to me, but it certainly draws inspiration from fabulous things that are out there and will not be, due to professional obligations, mentioned by name.

Any UA w/tsbp back stock right now or when will February preorders be live? Thanks! Nice to meet you im Jimmy and I love your pedals.

 

[TonyP-]

Thank you @Sushi Box FX and @bassbrad

Just to give a heads up, the Venus X is based after my thoughts on serval years of gigging (some years over 200 shows).

However, a lot of thought was given to the unit to making sure it was capable of competing with high end studio gear and yet fit in your gig bag.

 

[macmanlou]

...An active EQ allows you to boost beyond unity.

Thanks for that explanation, especially the summary.

Here's another I found helpful, too.

Venus X certainly has my attention.