The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

[Sushi Box FX]

Yeah, I’m probably in for one of those. Looks great. Does it even need a bypass switch?

The bypass was put in basically as a failsafe. I don't expect you to ever want to turn it off, but if something were to go wrong mid-song (i.e. power failure, etc.) you can bypass the preamp and it turns into a passive D.I. so you can get to a convenient point to swap it out of your chain.

Sweet !
Is it derived from a particular circuit / tone stack? What are the frequency centers for those mid controls?
Are the controls boost / cut, boost only, something else?
Am I asking too many questions?

Lo-mid is centered at 250Hz and Hi-mid is centered at 1kHz, and this is an active EQ so all of the controls are boost/cut. I really like the way it came out, it's extremely flexible and intuitive to dial in.

 

[TonyP-]

Yeah, I’m probably in for one of those. Looks great. Does it even need a bypass switch?

It has a pass through, so you can send an unaffected sound to your backline and the sound you get to control to the FOH.

 

[TonyP-]

Something I want to mention about the Venus X.

This is something different in the Sushi Box line...Another place where thought was given to is the power supply and its a very "Tight" sound power supply that does not have the sag of a tube amp.

If you listen to my original material, you will not here an a loose sounding tube amp and that tight sound is part of it and is important to me and most certainly part of this preamp.

The Venus X is all about Tight, punchy with tube saturation. HOWEVER, If you want that Ampeg sound but not the sag or loose ness, engage channel two to get that kind of attack.

Cheers Folks

 

[TonyP-]

Sweet !
Is it derived from a particular circuit / tone stack? What are the frequency centers for those mid controls?
Are the controls boost / cut, boost only, something else?
Am I asking too many questions?

No its cool...Some aspects I cannot actually discuss. The Venus X is its own entity inspired by a sound and functionality.

 

[TonyP-]

I really don't need or want a cab sim... that would suit me just fine... I get that the fly and IEM crowd will like the sim... I still like moving some air...

You of course would be able to just shut off the function, but this is supposed to be "amp in a box" solution so to speak. I think you will dig it.

 

[dedpool1052]

Ok guys, late stage prototype
Here it is, just missing the cabism.

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Does the boost side get into overdrive territory?
Or is this pedal all about clean, solid tone?

 

[TonyP-]

Does the boost side get into overdrive territory?
Or is this pedal all about clean, solid tone?

The second channel can do both actually… The design and the gain stage was chosen specifically to be able to do either.
It all depends on how much gain you dial in.

 

[jbybj]

Ok guys, late stage prototype
Here it is, just missing the cabism.

View attachment 4938225

Dibs.

 

[smeet]

Something I want to mention about the Venus X.

This is something different in the Sushi Box line...Another place where thought was given to is the power supply and its a very "Tight" sound power supply that does not have the sag of a tube amp.

If you listen to my original material, you will not here an a loose sounding tube amp and that tight sound is part is important to me and most certainly part of this preamp.

The Venus X is all about Tight, punchy with tube saturation. HOWEVER, If you want that Ampeg sound but not the sag or loose ness, engage channel two to get that kind of attack.

Cheers Folks

By “channel two” do you mean engaging the boost?

 

[TonyP-]

By “channel two” do you mean engaging the boost?

Correct, its not separate channel like the big Trickfish pre..."The Boost" actually works with the original gain section.
My apologies for any confusion, Nathan and I have almost 1.5 years of referring to "channel 2", through out all the prototypes and such.
I can't wait to share this solution with my bass Brother & Sisters.

 

[JohnnyBottom]

You of course would be able to just shut off the function, but this is supposed to be "amp in a box" solution so to speak. I think you will dig it.

Hi Tony,
Would the cab sim be just for the XLR and defeatable? Might the 1/4 Output have an option for the cabsim as it might be an output for IEMS ?

 

[TonyP-]

Hi Tony,
Would the cab sim be just for the XLR and defeatable? Might the 1/4 Output have an option for the cabsim as it might be an output for IEMS ?

I will @Sushi Box FX get more into that.
Cheers

 

[jaibeau]

Ok guys, late stage prototype
Here it is, just missing the cabism.

View attachment 4938225

Since you’re not at the sim yet, would a HPF/LPF be an alternative option? That would rock on this set up.

 

[TonyP-]

Since you’re not at the sim yet, would a HPF/LPF be an alternative option? That would rock on this set up.

Well we do have a very specific cab model in mind…Its 410 based.

 

[Sushi Box FX]

Hi Tony,
Would the cab sim be just for the XLR and defeatable? Might the 1/4 Output have an option for the cabsim as it might be an output for IEMS ?

The plan is for the 1/4" output to mirror the XLR output, and it will also be defeatable by a toggle switch on the face of the pedal (we carved out a space for it already, you can see the empty spot there). So you can have cabsim on XLR and 1/4" at the same time or you can run without cabsim.

"But what if I want cabsim on one output but not the other?" Sorry, this is the cleanest way I could find to do it. Letting you mix and match output signals adds additional complication to an already complicated (at a circuit level at least) preamp.

Since you’re not at the sim yet, would a HPF/LPF be an alternative option? That would rock on this set up.

We are at the sim, it's been fully planned and spec'd out, it just hasn't been implemented yet on this prototype. I've been taking things step at a time to make sure Tony and I stay on the same page with the design, so rather than put everything in at once and audition a finished unit I've been making sure he likes each stage before we move on to the next stage. I think this is the 5th or 6th prototype, and we're finally at a sound we're both really excited about. Adding in the cabsim is the last step, then it will be ready for its official announcement at the NAMM show, and depending on how quickly the cabsim falls into place I hope to have things set up by then to put it into full production and make it available for sale.

 

[jaibeau]

The plan is for the 1/4" output to mirror the XLR output, and it will also be defeatable by a toggle switch on the face of the pedal (we carved out a space for it already, you can see the empty spot there). So you can have cabsim on XLR and 1/4" at the same time or you can run without cabsim.

"But what if I want cabsim on one output but not the other?" Sorry, this is the cleanest way I could find to do it. Letting you mix and match output signals adds additional complication to an already complicated (at a circuit level at least) preamp.


We are at the sim, it's been fully planned and spec'd out, it just hasn't been implemented yet on this prototype. I've been taking things step at a time to make sure Tony and I stay on the same page with the design, so rather than put everything in at once and audition a finished unit I've been making sure he likes each stage before we move on to the next stage. I think this is the 5th or 6th prototype, and we're finally at a sound we're both really excited about. Adding in the cabsim is the last step, then it will be ready for its official announcement at the NAMM show, and depending on how quickly the cabsim falls into place I hope to have things set up by then to put it into full production and make it available for sale.

I really like your stuff for the simplicity, which is why I only have the SH and the MORE you just sent me… but I do use a HPF/LPF.. my eq is the wood, strings and tone knob. So I get the “you can’t have everything” I tend to look away from those. Y’all are still keeping this one pretty tame which is your vibe, I like it. Cab sims are semi accomplishing the HPF/LPF idea I assume.. tony and I met at namm being mike lull artist so we chat occasionally about gear.. he knows what’s up and obviously you do. Thanks.

 

[jaibeau]

Well we do have a very specific cab model in mind…Its 410 based.

Either way this is really cool. You da man. Maybe I’ll see ya at namm, gotta check dem dates…

 

[Ethereal Thorn]

The plan is for the 1/4" output to mirror the XLR output, and it will also be defeatable by a toggle switch on the face of the pedal (we carved out a space for it already, you can see the empty spot there). So you can have cabsim on XLR and 1/4" at the same time or you can run without cabsim.

"But what if I want cabsim on one output but not the other?" Sorry, this is the cleanest way I could find to do it. Letting you mix and match output signals adds additional complication to an already complicated (at a circuit level at least) preamp.


We are at the sim, it's been fully planned and spec'd out, it just hasn't been implemented yet on this prototype. I've been taking things step at a time to make sure Tony and I stay on the same page with the design, so rather than put everything in at once and audition a finished unit I've been making sure he likes each stage before we move on to the next stage. I think this is the 5th or 6th prototype, and we're finally at a sound we're both really excited about. Adding in the cabsim is the last step, then it will be ready for its official announcement at the NAMM show, and depending on how quickly the cabsim falls into place I hope to have things set up by then to put it into full production and make it available for sale.

I get that it makes things more complicated but the Cab sim needs to be able to have selectable outputs to be usable for guys running a amp atleast imho. I want my iems /foh to get a cab sim but don't want it on my power amps feed tho. I mean I can still send my feed to my HX FX and split the out to my power amp and the other into a cab m+ that kind of defeats the purpose having one built in tho plus not every player has the ability to split the output signal or a impulse loader on hand. Not trying to be negative here it just seems like kind of a important detail

 

[Derek Williams]

I get that it makes things more complicated but the Cab sim needs to be able to have selectable outputs to be usable for guys running a amp atleast imho. I want my iems /foh to get a cab sim but don't want it on my power amps feed tho. I mean I can still send my feed to my HX FX and split the out to my power amp and the other into a cab m+ that kind of defeats the purpose having one built in tho plus not every player has the ability to split the output signal or a impulse loader on hand. Not trying to be negative here it just seems like kind of a important detail

The cab sim is just a bonus feature. If your needs are more complicated its purpose hasn’t been defeated and having multiple routing options is not an important detail. There is no cabsim on the other pedals and we survive just fine, but I’m glad there is an option on this one in case it’s needed.

 

[TonyP-]

Either way this is really cool. You da man. Maybe I’ll see ya at namm, gotta check dem dates…

Homie, looking forward to seeing you at NAMM. My crew does the burrito run most days, you need to join us.
I will find out a lot more schedule wise mid February if I’m going to be out there with one of my projects or not and if not I will have boat load more time to hang.