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The Tesla and other Electric vehicle thread.....

#182
Stewie26 said:
Sorry. I have no way of knowing that. Suggest you a put an appropriate emoji after your comment when being sarcastic. Just sayin.
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I've been an active pro-EV participant in this thread. I guess I wrongly assumed other regulars would know that. My bad.
 
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#186
D M C said:
Don’t understand. Who are these powers that be?
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I purposely didn't name the entity in question. I still enjoy TB and have no interest in getting banned from it.

While I don't know you personally, there's no doubt in my mind that you are intelligent enough to figure out who I was referring to.

So, in order to hopefully bring this part of discussion to a close: I have no issues with Tesla - or anyone else - getting their share of the market through product improvement and competition. My displeasure is directed elsewhere.

I'm also fine with everyone and their fifth cousin three times removed driving an EV as long as I'm allowed to enjoy my petrol-powered vehicle with manual transmission.
 
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#187
After more consideration, a few weeks ago I decided I'm ready to take the EV plunge with a Tesla Model 3 to replace my 2010 Acura TSX with 6MT. There are enough chargers along I-95 and in the NYC metro area that I don't need to worry about driving between Philly and my parents' home in CT, even if I can't effectively charge at their place.

I also realized that, at least for me, an EV wouldn't represent an increase in "refueling" time, but simply a reallocation of that time into longer trips that might require waiting to access a charger, and then waiting while it charges. The rest of the time, I'd just plug in at home and thus spend zero time at a charging station. (We're in downtown Philly, but luckily have a garage.) I'd have to adjust my expectations on longer road trips, like when my daughter and I drove to Rhode Island and back this past Thursday. But I'm totally OK with it. (She liked URI, so this might become a regular trip for the next four years.)

My wife, however, isn't ready to go full-on EV. So, at this point, I'm aiming for a Volvo S60 Recharge. With about 22 miles of electric range, it would cover almost all our local trips without burning fuel. Then we'd have plenty of range and easy refueling on longer trips. (We plan to drive cross country in the next year or so.) And, with its 400 total system horsepower, it's a beast! When the pandemic dust settles a bit more, I'll test one as soon as I can. But they're selling quickly and/or supplies are seriously limited, because very few have shown up on the web sites of Philly area dealers.
 
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#188
I'm all for EVs and would buy one that could replace my Mazda CX5 or my wife'sHonda CRV, have at least 350 mile range all year here in the north and not cost 2x as much. Maybe by the time i"m ready to pull the trigger on a new vehicle, it will be waiting for me.
 
#189
My ICE vehicles that have been bought and paid for will most likely still be quite serviceable for many years to come as long as gasoline is available.

Financially speaking I can't see an upside to go electric anytime soon. I'm retired and my wife works from home. We really don't log very many miles anymore.
 
#190
So anyway...

I love my MY, AWD, LR more the longer I own it and it’s only going to get better. One advantage, aside from the never having to buy gas, never having to change oil, never having to have the transmission fluids changed or topped up, never having to have the transmission serviced, never having to perform any service at all, ever, except to put on new tires and brakes (and even then infrequently because of regenerative braking,) is the free over-the-air software updates that add new features and enhance existing ones. My 2018 Camry hybrid got a software update when Toyota rolled out Apple Play and Android Play, but I had to take it in to the dealership for it to be performed.
My Tesla doesn’t need Apple Play because it has all of its features, plus a bunch of video games and streaming services - YouTube, Spotify, et. al. - built in. It helps to pass the time while you’re charging.

So there’s that.
 
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#193
D M C said:
So anyway...

I love my MY, AWD, LR more the longer I own it and it’s only going to get better. One advantage, aside from the never having to buy gas, never having to change oil, never having to have the transmission fluids changed or topped up, never having to have the transmission serviced, never having to perform any service at all, ever, except to put on new tires and brakes (and even then infrequently because of regenerative braking,) is the free over-the-air software updates that add new features and enhance existing ones. My 2018 Camry hybrid got a software update when Toyota rolled out Apple Play and Android Play, but I had to take it in to the dealership for it to be performed.
My Tesla doesn’t need Apple Play because it has all of its features, plus a bunch of video games and streaming services - YouTube, Spotify, et. al. - built in. It helps to pass the time while you’re charging.

So there’s that.
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Sold! So, when will Elon Musk figure out that vans are the perfect car and build one?
 
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#196
The van is coming, but several other things in front of it (Semi, Cybertruck, Roadster). I'm signed up for a Cybertruck, but I'm really jonesing for the van.
 
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#198
gln1955 said:
The Cybertruck has some cool factor, but why did they choose to write off interest by the vast majority of people buying Ford, Chevy and Ram trucks?
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They'll sell them as fast as they can make them. I don't think they care what the old ICE manufacturers are doing.
 
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#199
bholder said:
They'll sell them as fast as they can make them. I don't think they care what the old ICE manufacturers are doing.
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Maybe they should for the long haul. Five of the top ten selling vehicles in the US are pickup trucks. Eight of the top ten are either trucks or SUVs. Tesla will no doubt sell all the Cybertrucks they can make for a while, but it will still be a niche vehicle.
 
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#200
Gaolee said:
A Chevy Bolt is more my speed and budget than a Tesla, but I can see an electric future. If anybody made an electric or even hybrid van, I would want one. Not a pickup or SUV. A van. Never mind the creepy factor, there are very few more useful vehicles than a white cargo van.
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They're coming, but so far it looks they're designed for commercial use, such as the electric version of Ford's Transit, and don't resemble an old-school Econoline:

https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/e-transit/2022/

Looks like most of them are in Europe:

https://www.drivingelectric.com/news/622/new-electric-vans-2021-and-beyond
 
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