Also, forgot to add in my previous post, they said would be 4 to 5 months until these were at dealers.
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Make sense if you could use the passive tone to roll off a bit more of that sizzle. Free up the mids for shaping the top of the bass response.Also, for me, the "sizzle" on 3 band rays comes from high frequency peak that you can't dial out. I'd be ok with getting rid of that.
Correction: In contrast to the Z7, the Z3 does not have the passive tone control according to Sire's website.
But the blatant Fender ripoff line is ok though?I really kinda sorta wanted to dislike this bass (due to being a blatant ripoff) but it does tick a lot of boxes for my personal bass preferences:
-22 frets
Not really.But the blatant Fender ripoff line is ok though?
I don't think "I really kinda sorta wanted to dislike this bass" qualifies as hand-wringing.The hand wringing over the fact they're copying a Ray is kinda funny....
That comment was not intended to be directed solely at you.Not really.
I don't think "I really kinda sorta wanted to dislike this bass" qualifies as hand-wringing.![]()

LMAOOOOO I hope it's similar to EBMMSRS which I LoveI don't give a fig, raisin, prune or carrot about a headstock, and I think it's - it won't win any beauty contests. But the main question - the only question I care about - what's the string spacing at the bridge on the 5!??![]()
Vet all you want. That poster is Sterling Ball — he goes by the name “Big Poppa” on the EBMM forum.
I don’t know the status of the trademark today, but EBMM absolutely owned it in the past.
I would like to know how this would play out in court. EBMM has the resources and incentives to protect its trademark and chase off small builders proactively, but if Fender or Gibson wanted to make an issue of it, I think a competent patent attorney could make the case that the 3+1 layout is not merely aesthetic, but functional as well. I don't think Sire has those resources, nor are they so invested in the layout to the point they'd take on EBMM even if they did.
I'm not a lawyer but here's an interesting link regarding the EBM trademark:
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LMAOOOOO I hope it's similar to EBMMSRS which I Love



Wide spacing is the KISS OF DEATH for me. Thus I only like P Basses with Jazz 1.5 necks. Also even though the V5's 5 string spacing is wider than Stingray Specials its not as wide as Fender which I tried and hated it. Laklands 35" scale would also fall into the category for me.NOOOOOO!!!
There are three levels of 5 string Stingray, the expensive once, the affordable Ray 35 and the very budget Sterling, and they're all narrow! We've been pleading for a wide spacing 'Ray for years! Shoot, Ernie Ball made a neck through model and a short scale model, and they still ignore us!
I had a five string 'Ray decades ago, never could get along with it. The Laklands 55-02s are well designed, very playable (I have a JoBo Skyline) but just don't sound the same. I guess I'll have to see if I can make one myself. Dremel, here I come. Have mercy on my Attitude 5.![]()