Shameless self-promotion. Look in the classifieds. I've been selling clones of the original pre-EB Stingray preamp for a while now. Professionally made circuit boards, high quality components, $99. Lots of positive feedback.
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Shameless self-promotion. Look in the classifieds. I've been selling clones of the original pre-EB Stingray preamp for a while now. Professionally made circuit boards, high quality components, $99. Lots of positive feedback.
I've been looking for a nice way to say exactly this. We constantly hear, "I wish someone would make an affordable version of (insert your flavor here) ___________." We also hear "My ________, is ALMOST as good (in some cases BETTER than your ________, and I saved $XXX.00's" Then there's the "lawsuit" basses, that are better than the ORIGINALS, and the one's that "can be" with a few "upgrades." Lest we not forget the ones that have garnered their own club, Mr. *ICKenbacker...Honestly, it's funny that suddenly so many people are mad at Sire for making copies of other established brands...
Like, they became famous for their affordable but with good quality Jazz Bass copies.
And it seems that no one has ever made a Sterling inspired bass before (just check Flea's models and brands throughout the years).
These seem legit basses and have suficient diferences to not be considered copies. Besides evident shape diferences, they have their own pickup and use the Sure Preamp, although more simplified on the Z3. Also, I bet the neck specs will be diferent.
What I want to know is simply how it sounds and feels.
The rest is stuff no one will remember in a few months.

If there isn't a build thread I dare say you may have a revolt on your hands...Y'all wanna REALLY be pissed off?
Just wait 'till I finish the "NEW SMOOTHIE." LOL
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Yeah, ESPECIALLY since the PUP, and Pre were sacrificed from a real EBMM - Sterling 5, and getting turned into a 4 string...If there isn't a build thread I dare say you may have a revolt on your hands...
Pfft...to hell with 'em, it's your stuff do what ever you want with it.Yeah, ESPECIALLY since the PUP, and Pre were sacrificed from a real EBMM - Sterling 5, and getting turned into a 4 string...
Me too! That's why I wanna see a build thread...Pfft...to hell with 'em, it's your stuff do what ever you want with it.
I think it's pretty cool![]()
No actual knowledge of Sire. But my 4 knob East has a push/pull on the passive tone knob. 3 bands with swept mids on 2 stacked knobs.So, became interested in the Z7 after seeing some NAMM videos. I have four Sire basses, all 5 stringers, a V7, P7, M5 and a V10. I am extremely satisfied with them all although I prefer the lesser number of frets on the V’s and P than I do the 24 on the M. Anyway, majority of basses I’ve collected over the many years, I’ve modified in some ways to my preferred feel and sound. I have not done any aftermarket mods on any of these except adding straplocks as well as Luminlay side dots on the M5. Reason being….they feel, play and sound like I want. For the money they’re hard to beat in my opinion. We all have our likes, dislikes and preferences of course but out of all my basses these Sires end up going with me on quite a few gigs. Soundmen seem to like the tone I’m sending them and I have had zero issues with them over the recent years. I also have Stingray Special HH, Fender American Deluxe, Fender MIM Deluxe and others so nice to have the choices and comparisons. Anyway, I have a question regarding the Z7 if anyone knows and can reply. Someone noticed this in a previous post and attached video too. Some descriptions on these new basses mention active/passive operation but I don’t see a mini toggle on the control plate. All my Sires have this toggle for active/passive operation but maybe I’m missing seeing it on these new Z models. Anyway, will be interesting hearing of your real world experiences with these basses when they make it into your hands.
Yeah, many of my basses with active/passive have the push/pull volume knob for choosing as well which is great. This Sire appears to have a stacked volume knob with a lower tone control rolloff to work when in passive mode as some do but I’m just not sure of the control configuration yet. Guess we’ll find out what it can do when folks eventually get it in their hands. Like you, I use the passive mode quite a bit.No actual knowledge of Sire. But my 4 knob East has a push/pull on the passive tone knob. 3 bands with swept mids on 2 stacked knobs.
Personally, I love a passive tone on an active bass (if that's what they got.). Great for fine tuning crazy active treble
I do like passive mode. Much better at emulating flats than my limited experience of active basses. But the East runs the active output through the tone control for a final tweak on the way out the door. No idea how common that is.Yeah, many of my basses with active/passive have the push/pull volume knob for choosing as well which is great. This Sire appears to have a stacked volume knob with a lower tone control rolloff to work when in passive mode as some do but I’m just not sure of the control configuration yet. Guess we’ll find out what it can do when folks eventually get it in their hands. Like you, I use the passive mode quite a bit.
I'm not that vain. Don't like attention. Nor, do I enjoy typing. I'll do a step by step (sort of) thread, once it's done.Me too! That's why I wanna see a build thread...
The basses aren’t even out yet and we have this nonsense…guys go make some musicI would like to know how this would play out in court. EBMM has the resources and incentives to protect its trademark and chase off small builders proactively, but if Fender or Gibson wanted to make an issue of it, I think a competent patent attorney could make the case that the 3+1 layout is not merely aesthetic, but functional as well. I don't think Sire has those resources, nor are they so invested in the layout to the point they'd take on EBMM even if they did.
THANK YOU !!! ✌The basses aren’t even out yet and we have this nonsense…guys go make some music
Well okay then.I'm not that vain. Don't like attention. Nor, do I enjoy typing. I'll do a step by step (sort of) thread, once it's done.
Heck... I may even not like it... LOL. Whaddayado...?
Evidently, after my emails with Sire, the Z7 is active only. Was assuming they included the bypass option like the V’s, P’s and others, but not the case.
Thanks for the clarification! I guess it's because the original is not switchable, either...
At least the Z3 and Z7 do still come with the passive tone control on top of the active EQ.