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This is what happens when you seek fame before talent...

#41
He didn't miss a cue, he just missed a bunch of notes then gave up....in jazz I think they call it tension...and this would be some sick jazz because he never resolved it.
Lol
I've butchered plenty of solos on bass and guitar...I feel bad when it happens to me, but when it happens to someone else its pretty funny. Not sure if it's misery loves company or just some sort of sympathy for knowing exactly how long a brutal solo seems to last when you are the one playing it.
 
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Hey, I know there's talent in this generation of young people. I've had the privilege of actually playing with this guy in this video for the last few years. He's an amazing player and started playing with us at the age of 19 years old. He wasn't even old enough to be in some of the bars we played at but he managed to get in there anyway. IMO, he's the reincarnation SRV. Amazing feel, amazing tone, and chops whenever and wherever he wants! And he's only 22 now.

 
#43
Allz I can say is WOW... to all the people here that are trashing that dude, as opposed to thinking how much that must have sucked for him.

Are you guys serious???? If you've never had a brain fart or flubbed like that during a gig in your career, you haven't gigged enough. Period. Sucks a thousand times more when you know there's a crapload of cameras on you.

I sense a whole lot of jealousy in this thread.

Now continue trashing the mega successful dude who flubbed for 10 seconds and got caught doing it. And when it happens to you, I hope you remember all this.
 
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Joe Nerve said:
Allz I can say is WOW... to all the people here that are trashing that dude, as opposed to thinking how much that must have sucked for him.

Are you guys serious???? If you've never had a brain fart or flubbed like that during a gig in your career, you haven't gigged enough. Period. Sucks a thousand times more when you know there's a crapload of cameras on you.

I sense a whole lot of jealousy in this thread.

Now continue trashing the mega successful dude who flubbed for 10 seconds and got caught doing it. And when it happens to you, I hope you remember all this.
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It's not that he made a mistake or "had a brain fart" during a gig. It's the fact that he didn't even try to cover it up. To me, it just looked like he gave up and said, "whatever" and went to the mic. In my opinion, I really think that when you're at that level, you need to do better than that.



But I could be completely wrong and this could be one of those migraine momentary seizure things that we've seen reporters have. I'm just speaking from how I saw it, and no jealousy here. I like what I do and the level I play at. Less rules and a better dress code.
 
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Joe Nerve said:
Allz I can say is WOW... to all the people here that are trashing that dude, as opposed to thinking how much that must have sucked for him.

Are you guys serious???? If you've never had a brain fart or flubbed like that during a gig in your career, you haven't gigged enough. Period. Sucks a thousand times more when you know there's a crapload of cameras on you.

I sense a whole lot of jealousy in this thread.

Now continue trashing the mega successful dude who flubbed for 10 seconds and got caught doing it. And when it happens to you, I hope you remember all this.
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I don't think the point is that we're perfect and he's not. I also don't think it's a scoreboard for mistakes. I've made those kinds of mistakes, but they were long ago and far away in my playing career.

I think the bigger point is the line he's attempting is beyond easy, I have three-week students who could do better in front of a live audience. Plus this dude has been playing a long time. He's staring a hole in his guitar like he's deathly afraid something will go wrong, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. This is some combination of unpreparedness and stage fright that typically keeps people off stages like that one. Quite frankly, I can honestly say I've never stumbled and failed to recover like that in my 38 year public performing career, and that's no boast because I'm sure I'm hardly alone in that respect.

If I ever got that locked up on stage, I'd deserve every snicker that came my way and take it like a man. Then I'd either sell my Tele or take it back to the wood shed and re-learn the minor pentatonic blues scale seven-note pattern shape.
 
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capnsandwich said:
It's not that he made a mistake or "had a brain fart" during a gig. It's the fact that he didn't even try to cover it up. To me, it just looked like he gave up and said, "whatever" and went to the mic. In my opinion, I really think that when you're at that level, you need to do better than that.
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First, I don't know the song... so I don't know what he copped out on. Sounds to me like brain fart, or flubbed note. Not quite as horrible a trainwreck as people are making it out to be. But second, it seems to me like there was a really good chance his G string got knocked way out of tune, and he just said screw this before I really screw this up. I could think of a host of other things that could have been going on for him. Including, again, just a total brain fart... that happens sometimes because we're human.

Regardless of the cause, why wouldn't a fellow musician have sympathy for guy - and not trash him? I don't get that? I see something like that and I say, "Ouch", not "HAHA, LOL... What a fool."

Whatever. We all think differently. I suspect age might have something to do with this, too.
 
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electracoyote said:
I think the bigger point is the line he's attempting is beyond easy, I have three-week students who could do better in front of a live audience. Plus this dude has been playing a long time. He's staring a hole in his guitar like he's deathly afraid something will go wrong, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. This is some combination of unpreparedness and stage fright that typically keeps people off stages like that one. Quite frankly, I can honestly say I've never stumbled and failed to recover like that in my 38 year public performing career, and that's no boast because I'm sure I'm hardly alone in that respect.

If I ever got that locked up on stage, I'd deserve every snicker that came my way and take it like a man. Then I'd either sell my Tele or take it back to the wood shed with the minor pentatonic blues scale seven-note pattern shape.
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Knowing you as long as I do on talkbass, I'm dumbfounded by this. Are we watching a different video? I hear 5 seconds of flub in that solo, half of which I really think (as I said in my last post) was the guitar being unexpectedly out of tune... and the rest that could have been attributed to anything. If you have that much experience, did it occur to you that maybe he couldn't hear the band at all? Or possibly his guitar?

This video must be definitive proof of how badly Eddie Van Halen sucks:

 
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Joe Nerve said:
did it occur to you that maybe he couldn't hear the band at all? Or possibly his guitar?
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No, it did not occur to me. Since you are taking this so personally, you come up with some proof for that assertion and I'll offer you a sincere apology.

I see the dude come in on cue and nail the first phrase. That must be when the gremlin hit his gear, right? Because he missed more than a couple of notes. He got out of position and played a substantive series of bad notes.

Show me proof it was his gear and not the more likely explanation I offered.

And as for Eddie, sheesh, talk about apples to oranges; I'd bet my bass collection when you hear Eddie Van Halen nosedive it was the drugs and/or alcohol, and equally inexcusable.
 
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electracoyote said:
Show me proof.
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OK. You're on!! Ya see I borrowed this time machine from Stewie Griffin. Give me your address and I'll come to your house with it, and then we'll transport ourselves to the stage whenever it was that show took place. Then we'll listen together. I'll even bring a digital recorder so when we transport ourselves back we can prove who was right, me or you. I might be wrong. But uh... that isn't really the point anyhow. The point is, why, regardless of the reason for the obvious blunder - do you hate on the guy and ridicule him, as opposed to have sympathy? Regardless of his fame, success, or whatever? I don't understand that thinking.

And fwiw, I'm not taking anything personally. Seems as though you might be starting to though.
 
#56
It's hilarious that a guy is this upset that people are ripping on a Jonas Brother playing guitar. Hey, some of us HAVE played award shows and understand the pressure. It's not always jealousy to laugh at something, and you need to be pro enough to power through any situation if you are going to be up there.

Maybe consider how there are monster players all over that awards show who didn't get a spotlight solo, but should have. Instead that guy gets his "I'm little Wayne I can play guitar too and skateboard! I'm multi talented" moment and blows it. It's great karma really.
 
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