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Thoughts on Pino Palladino
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Btw Pino played that dope bassline in Cee Lo green's Forget You. It all seems ho hum until you listen to the bridge and realize what he is playing.
Pino is just a legend.
Pino is just a legend.
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I read the OP and immediately skipped ahead six pages to see how many idiotic term papers were spawned, breaking down infinite critiques of arena-sized rock stars selling out the wrong way.
Keep in mind, Pino plays bass to make a living. Even though he's a top shelf sideman, he's still a sideman and probably doesn't make nearly the huge money that his employers make. That said (and despite the fact that you didn't care for his bass sound/mix/persona/playing in the recent show you saw), his steady work with Pete Townshend and the Who is a helluva good gig to hold down ... and probably more lucrative/highly visible than his salad days playing fretless in the studio with countless artists.
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I'm sorry if I misled you. I'm not a devoted follower of anyone except my old DB teacher. I can pick out most of the local guys here from recordings, too. You have to listen for the details.
The pile of transcribed fills and parts I've got from Pino is higher than anyone else's, though.FWIW, the second biggest pile belongs to Will Lee.
But those are just the EB transcriptions.
No, because John Deacon retired 20 years ago. Queen's bass spot is up for hire, just like the lead vox spot.
Yes, love Deaky, but he quit...quite a while ago...
Sorry, didn't read all the comments stating the same thing until AFTER I posted!
You have already been offended by posts from others, and I'm afraid you are going to be offended by what I'm about to say. But it needs to be said:
If you feel that Pino Palladino's playing with the artists you listed is "pedestrian" you are listening for the wrong things.
Please listen to Pino's meter, his tone, and for the notes he does NOT play. Listen to the way his lines support the song, the groove, the vocals, but stop short of trying to call unwarranted attention to themselves. Then listen to his tasteful, inventive, and well placed fills.
If Pino Palladino's bass playing (with the artists you listed) only ranks as "pedestrian" then the rest of us should hang it up right now.
Why would I be offended by a well composed, rational, dissenting response if I'm not offended by the ignorant ones?
I couldn't disagree with this analogy more. I would say it is like replacing Entwistle with Simon Phillips, which is eventually what happened. Simon Phillips was and is a brilliant player, consummate studio ace, and one of the great players on his instrument of his generation ... much like Pino is to the bass. Kenny Jones is an adequate rock drummer, but little else.
Well, this is the internet...
Thanks for hearing me out. You, sir, are a true gentleman.
It was my pleasure. Not every discussion that involves differing opinions needs to disintegrate into rudeness and name calling.
In retrospect, my original post should have simply read, "I really do miss Pino Palladino's fretless playing." It certainly would have saved a fair amount of butt-hurt.
Your point was well taken. I actually stumbled upon this which I found interesting...a bit of the best of both worlds.
My wife drags me to a ton of concerts and the sound, especially when it comes to the bass, so hit or miss. I saw both Sabbath and The Who at The Garden this week and the difference in sound quality between the two bands could not have been more dramatic. I really wasn't expecting much from Sabbath, I just assumed the tour was one last cash grab, but I'd put it in one of the top 3 best sounding shows I've ever heard. The Who sounded pretty much like how I expected Sabbath to sound. It's all up to the sound guy.
It's interesting, I remember raising an eyebrow when I heard that Pino would replace the Ox. He's not a guy who would have been my first choice if Pete or Roger would have called....
Yeah... I know. That is just a silly though that they would ask me!
But the few times I heard them play, I thought it worked well enough. I mean, really... Who DO you get to replace a player like that?
I had the same thought when Toto replace Jeff Porcaro with Simon Phillips (mentioned in an earlier response). Phillips is a monster of a drummer, but not the same type of player that Porcaro was. I'm pretty sure the circumstances were the same though, that Lukather was already doing some outside work with Phillips, a solo album I think, and Townsend was working with Pino when they decided to tour again. So the players were already working together and they decided to go ahead and bring them into the fold.
That's my answer... And I'm sticking to it!!!!!!!!!!!
(unless I'm totally wrong)
Yeah... I know. That is just a silly though that they would ask me!
But the few times I heard them play, I thought it worked well enough. I mean, really... Who DO you get to replace a player like that?
I had the same thought when Toto replace Jeff Porcaro with Simon Phillips (mentioned in an earlier response). Phillips is a monster of a drummer, but not the same type of player that Porcaro was. I'm pretty sure the circumstances were the same though, that Lukather was already doing some outside work with Phillips, a solo album I think, and Townsend was working with Pino when they decided to tour again. So the players were already working together and they decided to go ahead and bring them into the fold.
That's my answer... And I'm sticking to it!!!!!!!!!!!
(unless I'm totally wrong)
Some people are harping too much on the idea that he's jumping on gigs that pay the most money. Someone said earlier that NIN is "beneath him"... a player of Pino's stature can also pick and choose his gigs the way actors like Leonardo DiCaprio can pick and choose the films they make. I'm sure he picks the gigs as much as they pick him.
Listen to the groove dripping off of this simple song. Think he doesn't enjoy playing with NIN and he's just doing it for the money? He puts a touch that only he can on an "industrial rock" act.
Listen to the groove dripping off of this simple song. Think he doesn't enjoy playing with NIN and he's just doing it for the money? He puts a touch that only he can on an "industrial rock" act.
